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I wanted an image to better gauge the sizes of the gestalts that have been and will be released, so I came up with this. Menasor is as closely scaled as I could get with the available images.

Menasor is the weak link (obviously), but all four look great together and I'm really looking forward to completing Predaking!

Can someone please remind me when the first figure is due again , thanks.

Autobot Genocide wrote:Can someone please remind me when the first figure is due again , thanks.

Per MMC's website, Bovis should be released on 8/15. Hopefully NA retailers will have in stock late Aug/early Sept.

hm...

I'm not really that interested in the whole set anymore... I've had Talon preordered since Jan 20th. I appreciate MMC taking their time to make sure their product comes out great and top notch and I would that instead of the rush job we get with some other Third parties. But I've found myself less and less interested in these. The original magic that pulled me in has worn off. =/ Now I'm not sure I want to financially commit to it. MMC its not you its me. I got lots to think over.

I'll give myself a day before I do something rash.

necr0blivion wrote:

Autobot Genocide wrote:Can someone please remind me when the first figure is due again , thanks.

Per MMC's website, Bovis should be released on 8/15. Hopefully NA retailers will have in stock late Aug/early Sept.

August sounds good i feel september is taking the piss a bit that would make it seven month in the waiting for this fella since i pre-ordered, feels like a life time

mooncake623 wrote:I'll give myself a day before I do something rash.

I can understand your sentiments. It's been almost 7 months now, and still no product. Also, Talon is no longer the 1st release - it'll be Bovis. However, I want you iterate these ideas to you:

-We've been told previously that MMC felt compelled to offer their pre-orders earlier than they planned in order to compete with Unique Toys' offering.
-Not sure when these figures would have initially been released, but any time a company wants to make a conscious effort to improve their goods instead of releasing a sub-par item should be considered a good thing.
-MMC instituted the pre-order discount, making their products much more attractive.


So, I'm wondering if maybe you might also be tempted by either UT or TFC's version of the King? Regardless, you've already "invested" by having the discount for MMC's figures, don't lose that! I'm sure once you have Bovis in hand (or see some of the video reviews that will lead up to the release), you'll be glad you stayed on board.

necr0blivion wrote:

mooncake623 wrote:I'll give myself a day before I do something rash.

I can understand your sentiments. It's been almost 7 months now, and still no product. Also, Talon is no longer the 1st release - it'll be Bovis. However, I want you iterate these ideas to you:

-We've been told previously that MMC felt compelled to offer their pre-orders earlier than they planned in order to compete with Unique Toys' offering.
-Not sure when these figures would have initially been released, but any time a company wants to make a conscious effort to improve their goods instead of releasing a sub-par item should be considered a good thing.
-MMC instituted the pre-order discount, making their products much more attractive.


So, I'm wondering if maybe you might also be tempted by either UT or TFC's version of the King? Regardless, you've already "invested" by having the discount for MMC's figures, don't lose that! I'm sure once you have Bovis in hand (or see some of the video reviews that will lead up to the release), you'll be glad you stayed on board.

You're probably right. And I am in no way faulting MMC. I think what they're doing is the right thing for the fans and protecting their own investments while giving the fans a superior product. I am not tempted by the least with what TFC or UT has to offer. It's just that the excitement has worn off. and if anything is tempting me it is Hasbro's reissue. hahahaha get that with all the crazy devy stuff. I think it looks quite good. =X and I can get them all now if i want.

mooncake623 wrote:You're probably right. And I am in no way faulting MMC. I think what they're doing is the right thing for the fans and protecting their own investments while giving the fans a superior product. I am not tempted by the least with what TFC or UT has to offer. It's just that the excitement has worn off. and if anything is tempting me it is Hasbro's reissue. hahahaha get that with all the crazy devy stuff. I think it looks quite good. =X and I can get them all now if i want.

Being the owner of the Welcome to 2010 Predaking by Takara and MOST of the CD upgrades for it (I didn't buy 14*, which is just a recolor of the giant sword since I already have the original release), I would recommend that you just invest the ~$200 towards one of the new figures sets being released by MMC, TFC, or UT.

As others around here have more eloquently put it, fans began to invest in CD because there were no other alternatives during that time. We just got an awesome re-release from Takara, and the CD offerings were meant to enhance the figure. Finally having all these installed, I'm afraid to even move my guy from one display to another. He's very top heavy now and the CD parts don't fit on very securely.

Also, I'm not sure how easy it would be to pick up all the upgrade pieces now - had to wait a few months to finally get the foot plates upgrade from TFSource as it was sold out everywhere else I looked.

Stay the course, save your cash for what looks to be a friggin behemoth of a figure.

necr0blivion wrote:

mooncake623 wrote:You're probably right. And I am in no way faulting MMC. I think what they're doing is the right thing for the fans and protecting their own investments while giving the fans a superior product. I am not tempted by the least with what TFC or UT has to offer. It's just that the excitement has worn off. and if anything is tempting me it is Hasbro's reissue. hahahaha get that with all the crazy devy stuff. I think it looks quite good. =X and I can get them all now if i want.

Being the owner of the Welcome to 2010 Predaking by Takara and MOST of the CD upgrades for it (I didn't buy 14*, which is just a recolor of the giant sword since I already have the original release), I would recommend that you just invest the ~$200 towards one of the new figures sets being released by MMC, TFC, or UT.

As others around here have more eloquently put it, fans began to invest in CD because there were no other alternatives during that time. We just got an awesome re-release from Takara, and the CD offerings were meant to enhance the figure. Finally having all these installed, I'm afraid to even move my guy from one display to another. He's very top heavy now and the CD parts don't fit on very securely.

Also, I'm not sure how easy it would be to pick up all the upgrade pieces now - had to wait a few months to finally get the foot plates upgrade from TFSource as it was sold out everywhere else I looked.

Stay the course, save your cash for what looks to be a friggin behemoth of a figure.

Thanks for advice! Pre-order will be kept =]
Don't know what gotten into me. Crazy Devy.... ha ha

I wonder why nobody has posted these here yet?

I thought that the UT MMC comparison was just . Lovely size to these and i'm glad the paint will be different on the final product can't wait to get them in hand .

daimchoc wrote:I wonder why nobody has posted these here yet?

Because none of us are quite as awesome as you, thanks for posting!

These guys are looking to be fantastic! So far Herc as been the combiner yard stick for me and that looks like it is going to change. Fingers crossed MMC decide to keep competing with TFC with larger sized combiner teams.

Soooo glad I committed to these. I'd really like to see a video review comparing these to TFC, but I am more than happy with my decision so far. They look bad ass!

Agamemnon wrote:Soooo glad I committed to these. I'd really like to see a video review comparing these to TFC, but I am more than happy with my decision so far. They look bad ass!

Agreed. From what we have seen and know about the three 3rd party Predacons so far I don't think anyone should feel bad for backing MMC at this point. I certainly won't be cancelling my pre-orders. Infact, these videos have renewed my excitement for these figures. Hell, test sample or not I'd take these two as they are now.

Like Peaugh, I don't want to bash such an aspiring company's work, but Unique Toys' figures really don't compare.

Bovis and Fortis do seem a little back-heavy, but maybe Peaugh had just been on the sauce.

Sodan-1 wrote:Bovis and Fortis do seem a little back-heavy, but maybe Peaugh had just been on the sauce.

There is also the tab/socket issue that was the reason he mentioned for one more test run. It is possible the ankle joints need some tightening and they are on the list of fixes

So are Bovis and Fortis the first now or is it still Bovis and Talon ?

http://www.mastermind-creations.com/collection.html
If this is still accurate, the order is:
Bovis
Leo Dux
Fortis
Talon
Tigris
Felisaber

Autobot Genocide wrote:So are Bovis and Fortis the first now or is it still Bovis and Talon ?

According to their website it looks like it will actually be:

Bovis Aug 15
Leo Dux Sept 30
Fortis Nov 15
Talon and Tigris with Felisaber around the same time? Q4 2013

If they hold to their current schedule.

I'm actually excited that I can have a standing (yet armless) Predaking. He'll spark even more fear into those Autobots. Muahahahaha.

(Now, to ship my POL or wait 2 weeks for Bovis... Hrm...)

[Edit] And That Bot just beat me, though I have dates! Thbbbbttttt.

Thanks guys . it's a shame Talon hasn't ran like the pre-orders he's the one i'm looking forward to most.

Autobot Genocide wrote:Thanks guys . it's a shame Talon hasn't ran like the pre-orders he's the one i'm looking forward to most.

There was a big design issue with Talon, and if I remember correctly, he went through a complete re-design. That's one of the reasons for the delay.

In reading Blurrz's response in the not-Computron thread, it made me realize that MMC may be the first company to put out a combiner figure that doesn't have to have fixes released later, and my not ever have an add-on. (Though, does Felisaber count as an addon? ) It is readilly apparent that MMC is more concerned with putting out a quality product than rushing figures to market. I really like and respect that!

Behold! Feral Re..... Wait that's not it...

Agamemnon wrote:

Autobot Genocide wrote:Thanks guys . it's a shame Talon hasn't ran like the pre-orders he's the one i'm looking forward to most.

There was a big design issue with Talon, and if I remember correctly, he went through a complete re-design. That's one of the reasons for the delay.

In reading Blurrz's response in the not-Computron thread, it made me realize that MMC may be the first company to put out a combiner figure that doesn't have to have fixes released later, and my not ever have an add-on. (Though, does Felisaber count as an addon? ) It is readilly apparent that MMC is more concerned with putting out a quality product than rushing figures to market. I really like and respect that!

I agree. not to say it won't have it's flaws but i can't see much more room for improving this either also i wouldn't class felisaber as an add on as such since he's part of the official line up and not an after thought .

daimchoc wrote:Behold! Feral Re..... Wait that's not it...

WTF?

daimchoc wrote:Behold! Feral Re..... Wait that's not it...

Well, it's going to charity...



c/o echotransformer:

Here's a custom FOC Predaking made by very skilled customizes and fellow artists Nemesis Predaking, Chansformers, Cliffjumper69, Cyberminky and PurpleBot. I contributed modified gestalt parts. Photo by Nemesis Predaking.

This guy will go on sale on EBay to raise money for charity, stay tuned!

More here: http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/radicons- ... aking.html

Agamemnon wrote:

Autobot Genocide wrote:Thanks guys . it's a shame Talon hasn't ran like the pre-orders he's the one i'm looking forward to most.

There was a big design issue with Talon, and if I remember correctly, he went through a complete re-design. That's one of the reasons for the delay.

In reading Blurrz's response in the not-Computron thread, it made me realize that MMC may be the first company to put out a combiner figure that doesn't have to have fixes released later, and my not ever have an add-on. (Though, does Felisaber count as an addon? ) It is readilly apparent that MMC is more concerned with putting out a quality product than rushing figures to market. I really like and respect that!

Can you explain more? What were the fixes or add-ons for Green Giant or MakeToys Menasor?