jeddalo wrote:Ok Cool, I just asked because me and a friend are doing a fan film using stop motion and we're writing a backstory to Starscream and why he has this utter hatred for Megatron and why he has always tried to destroy him, in the story we will be mixing the TF universe with another Universe or genre if you will, I can't say what it is but it is one that many of you I'm sure enjoy as well. I dont want to give too much of the story away but i will say this....The whole wanting to lead the Decepticons thing is just his cover, theres more to it than that. I hope I dont get any flak about trying to change the enhance the G1 storyline, not to mention, most of the Transformer universe, But I believe that this story needs to be told. what do you guys think?
Editor wrote:I think it would depend on what universes you are trying to tie together. Hasbro's differing properties are already tied together for the most part it's just a question of what source materials you choose to use. (MASK and Inhumaniods are already connected to GIJoe, GIJoe is already connected to Transformers, Transformers is already connected to Go-Bots)And with Crossover, we can see transformers crossing with the Marvel universes, Star Wars Expanded universe, and even Disney.
Now if you are to do a fan work combining Transformers with another property with a similar background it could be quite interesting. If you are trying to tie it with something a bit more out there (TMNT, MOTU, MLP) than it may be harder to grab readers. It all depends on your choices for sources, and your ability to write a solid story to unite them.
Do a Star Trek/X-men level crossing, It might be a good read.
Do a Godzilla/Charles Barkley crossing, than no thank you.
Yes those are both actual crossovers you can buy in comic form.
jeddalo wrote:Editor wrote:O ok well in that case it will be crossed with Star Wars in some way, I'm not gonna say how but it will be Star Wars, I didnt want to say what it was going to be but since you had put it in that aspect I figured I'd just go ahead and say so. But in any case how do you guys feel about a backstory for Starscream being written?
Siren Prime wrote:Well, it depends on which Starscream you are referring too.
Because G1 Starscream and Armada Starscream for example are two VERY different robots.
G1 Starscream is about as trustworthy as a ravenous pit viper.
Armada Starscream was ultimately a good guy.
Both certainly had a lot that went on in their lives before the time when the shows took place.
But they are so different that you gotta know that their backgrounds are also different.
Rial Vestro wrote:...Movie Starscream however... hard to say sence I have seen enough of him to even tell if he's anything like the others.
Rial Vestro wrote:
The way I see it, G1 Starscream STARTED as a good guy when he was an exsplorer along side Skyfire but something happened between then and when he started working with the Decepticons that changed his character. I don't think that G1 Starscream was allways the way we saw him as.
Shortly before the outbreak of the Autobot-Decepticon war nine million years ago, Starscream was not a warrior, but rather a scientist. He and his colleague and friend Skyfire were exploring an unnamed planet—the ancient Earth—when severe atmospheric conditions separated the two friends. Starscream circled the globe looking for Skyfire, but never found him. Upon his return to Cybertron, Starscream mostly abandoned his scientific pursuits, deciding that a career as a warrior would be much more exciting, and instead enrolled in the Cybertron War Academy, of which he would later profess to be the pride.
Starscream rose through the ranks of Megatron's Decepticons until he reached the position of second in command, but even this was not enough: Starscream saw Megatron as old and soft, and after five million years of war drained Cybertron of all its energy, Starscream came to believe that the Decepticons would have won the conflict eons beforehand if he had been in charge. Starscream was never afraid to let Megatron know this, but Megatron was always ready with a disparaging comeback, and the constant belief that while Starscream had the ambition, he did not have the ability to lead.
T-Macksimus wrote:That's the beautiful thing about FanFiction, it doesn't matter how we feel about it. You are the master and creator and I say if it feels like something that you will enjoy doing, go for it. If you want input along the way, we are here to bounce ideas off of and to help support the effort. (I cant begin to tell you how many works I'm either giving input to for various folks or ideas I'm working on myself right now)
I think having an origin piece for 'Screamer set in the SW universe is brilliant. The myriad of personalities (especially in the smuggler/bounty-hunter/underworld of SW) opens a ton of possibilities if it is a universe that you are well versed in.
My only question for you is this: Is the SW Expanded Universe one in which you are quite familiar? You don't have to be but it sometimes helps. I look forward to you what you come up with, just make sure that, first and foremost, you have fun doing it.
Rial Vestro wrote:Armada Starscream however is not "ultimately a good guy" he tried to join the Autobots for a time and ultimately rejoined his original team.
Siren Prime wrote:Rial Vestro wrote:Armada Starscream however is not "ultimately a good guy" he tried to join the Autobots for a time and ultimately rejoined his original team.
After which he allowed himself to be run through the chest with a sword by Megatron and was then promptly vaporized by Unicron after firing upon him.
Just to get Megatron (at that time Galvaron) to wake up and help the Autobots stop Unicron before he destroyed them all.
Armada Starscream ultimately a good guy? Yeah, I think so.
He screwed up continually, but in the end sacrificed himself to keep everyone else from dying.
It doesn't matter that he didn't get the Autobots trust.
But he sure got their respect. Unfortunately for him it also included their last respects.
Rial Vestro wrote:Siren Prime wrote:Rial Vestro wrote:Armada Starscream however is not "ultimately a good guy" he tried to join the Autobots for a time and ultimately rejoined his original team.
After which he allowed himself to be run through the chest with a sword by Megatron and was then promptly vaporized by Unicron after firing upon him.
Just to get Megatron (at that time Galvaron) to wake up and help the Autobots stop Unicron before he destroyed them all.
Armada Starscream ultimately a good guy? Yeah, I think so.
He screwed up continually, but in the end sacrificed himself to keep everyone else from dying.
It doesn't matter that he didn't get the Autobots trust.
But he sure got their respect. Unfortunately for him it also included their last respects.
Not really the LAST sence he gets resurected in Energon, tries to kill Prime, and doesn't even know who he is.
Siren Prime wrote:Rial Vestro wrote:Siren Prime wrote:Rial Vestro wrote:Armada Starscream however is not "ultimately a good guy" he tried to join the Autobots for a time and ultimately rejoined his original team.
After which he allowed himself to be run through the chest with a sword by Megatron and was then promptly vaporized by Unicron after firing upon him.
Just to get Megatron (at that time Galvaron) to wake up and help the Autobots stop Unicron before he destroyed them all.
Armada Starscream ultimately a good guy? Yeah, I think so.
He screwed up continually, but in the end sacrificed himself to keep everyone else from dying.
It doesn't matter that he didn't get the Autobots trust.
But he sure got their respect. Unfortunately for him it also included their last respects.
Not really the LAST sence he gets resurected in Energon, tries to kill Prime, and doesn't even know who he is.
Yeah, I know.
But since he didn't even know his own name and was basically just a puppet for a lot of the series, I can't really count him as the same character.
And actually that Starscream originally wasn't Starscream.
In original Japanese cartoon he was supposed to be a completely different character, but they renamed him when the show came to America and persented him as the resurected version of Armada Starscream.
That's why none of the other characters react to his being brought back from the dead.
Think about it. If someone you knew was vaporized right before your eyes and then ten years later they suddenly appeared again, how would you react?
Shock? Amazment? Tears? Fear?
The Autobots and Decepticons barely blink.
Personally it drives me nuts.
It would have been so much better if they had written the character as Starscream and had everyone really get thunderstruck at the fact that he's alive.
Rial Vestro wrote:Siren Prime wrote:Rial Vestro wrote:Siren Prime wrote:Rial Vestro wrote:Armada Starscream however is not "ultimately a good guy" he tried to join the Autobots for a time and ultimately rejoined his original team.
After which he allowed himself to be run through the chest with a sword by Megatron and was then promptly vaporized by Unicron after firing upon him.
Just to get Megatron (at that time Galvaron) to wake up and help the Autobots stop Unicron before he destroyed them all.
Armada Starscream ultimately a good guy? Yeah, I think so.
He screwed up continually, but in the end sacrificed himself to keep everyone else from dying.
It doesn't matter that he didn't get the Autobots trust.
But he sure got their respect. Unfortunately for him it also included their last respects.
Not really the LAST sence he gets resurected in Energon, tries to kill Prime, and doesn't even know who he is.
Yeah, I know.
But since he didn't even know his own name and was basically just a puppet for a lot of the series, I can't really count him as the same character.
And actually that Starscream originally wasn't Starscream.
In original Japanese cartoon he was supposed to be a completely different character, but they renamed him when the show came to America and persented him as the resurected version of Armada Starscream.
That's why none of the other characters react to his being brought back from the dead.
Think about it. If someone you knew was vaporized right before your eyes and then ten years later they suddenly appeared again, how would you react?
Shock? Amazment? Tears? Fear?
The Autobots and Decepticons barely blink.
Personally it drives me nuts.
It would have been so much better if they had written the character as Starscream and had everyone really get thunderstruck at the fact that he's alive.
But people did react to him... with dialog... Just not with facial exspressions. But I thought they were all preddy emotionless all the time anyway. Well the Transformers anyway. Kicker was allways verry exspessive but he didn't even know Starscream.
Rodimus Prime wrote:Every epic story revolving around great leaders (Megatron; fine, he was a Decepticon, but he was their greatest leader throughout the continuities) has to have a classic cowardly backstabber. This usually happens on the good side, like someone would always be backstabbing Prime, but only the Decepticon side could tolerate such a despicable character. But to answer your question to the point, no I don't think there is more to Starscream. Throughout all the continuities (that i am familiar with) he has been a sniveling cowardly greedy backstabber. It is one of the few constants throughout the TF universe. Honestly, I think the writers could have had such a good story if they made Starscream Unicron's herald instead of Megatron/Galvatron. Believe me, Starscream would have found a way to backstab even the most evil being in TF history.
Flare wrote: Starscream's still up to his old traitorous schemes!
hellkitty wrote:Flare wrote: Starscream's still up to his old traitorous schemes!
Correction: Starscream's still up to his *adorably* traitorous schemes.
(insert fangirl swoon).
HK, Oh man I'm punchy today. I hate Freshman Comp.
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