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monstergrotusque wrote:

Kibble wrote:

Mindmaster wrote:

TheCrookedMan wrote:$159.99 is pretty expensive for a Voyager.

I wouldn't say he's a Voyager. Probably somewhere in between a Voyager and a Leader. I can see where BBTS is coming up with its figures in price; seeing how it's foreign, probably more show-accurate, die-cast, etc. I agree the price is scandalous, but charging lower than $90 is a little bad for their business.

I've read it's been measured against MP-10 and it it comes out to 17 cm...so not quite 7 inches. Without the fig in front of me, I think that comes out to about Classics Prime size. If it's anywhere near $160, I won't be touching the Takara version.

Where is everyone getting these dimensions from? Out of curiosity.

They are coming from this image:

Maybe they are trying to keep things in scale in regards to the alt. modes. The width of Sideswipes chest looks like its right compared to primes vehicle mode cab. Maybe by keeping Sideswipe smaller than Starscream, it'll look right when placed together in vehicle mode.

The scale makes sense and Takara had mentioend in an interview this past winter that they would be paid attention to scale in MP line going forward.

...Though I just realized that MP Hot Rod is bigger than MP Sideswipe.

$160!

I've paid stupid money for toys before, but I think I'll chance waiting for a US release.

I'm a bit disappointed with the size. An inch or two taller wouldnt have hurt. And while $160 seems steep I'm not suprised at all. I'll wait a while before putting my preorder in.

Although the price is ridiculous part of me KNEW this would happen. However I'm certain when and if this thing hits the US it'll be more like $50 plus/minus. I would NEVER pay that much for something that small.

Yeah, no way in hell I'm getting it at that price. I expect it to drop to $120, but it's quite possible that it won't. I'll gladly wait for a Hasbro release.

MINDVVIPE wrote:Maybe they are trying to keep things in scale in regards to the alt. modes. The width of Sideswipes chest looks like its right compared to primes vehicle mode cab. Maybe by keeping Sideswipe smaller than Starscream, it'll look right when placed together in vehicle mode.

Stormrider wrote:The scale makes sense and Takara had mentioend in an interview this past winter that they would be paid attention to scale in MP line going forward.

...Though I just realized that MP Hot Rod is bigger than MP Sideswipe.

If that's the case, MP Soundwave came out years ago. It was called WST Soundwave.

I'm liking the in scale, no mass shifting look they are going for. Starscream and the Seakers should tower over most of the Autobots/Decepticons if they have F15 alt modes.

Trikeboy wrote:

MINDVVIPE wrote:Maybe they are trying to keep things in scale in regards to the alt. modes. The width of Sideswipes chest looks like its right compared to primes vehicle mode cab. Maybe by keeping Sideswipe smaller than Starscream, it'll look right when placed together in vehicle mode.

Stormrider wrote:The scale makes sense and Takara had mentioend in an interview this past winter that they would be paid attention to scale in MP line going forward.

...Though I just realized that MP Hot Rod is bigger than MP Sideswipe.

If that's the case, MP Soundwave came out years ago. It was called WST Soundwave.

I'm liking the in scale, no mass shifting look they are going for. Starscream and the Seakers should tower over most of the Autobots/Decepticons if they have F15 alt modes.

Can't escape the mass shifting for megs, though. Unless you have little pip-squeeked high pitched megatron running around shooting up the place. And since his power is above them, he actually pushes them around. So he often hides in vents and waits for Starscream to go behind his back, then pops out and start chasing after SS benny hill style. I'm overstimulated....

To those who wanna know the size of MP-12, he's around RiD Megs size. I did a comparison with my MP-10 awhile ago. He's a Voyager class with the price of a Masterpiece...The world is seriously coming to an end~

PS : If the next MP is also Voyager size...I am losing any hope I have left for Takara >.>...

CrimsonPrime wrote:To those who wanna know the size of MP-12, he's around RiD Megs size. I did a comparison with my MP-10 awhile ago. He's a Voyager class with the price of a Masterpiece...The world is seriously coming to an end~

PS : If the next MP is also Voyager size...I am losing any hope I have left for Takara >.>...

Someone said that the bot mode of every MP after -10 will be in scale. If the next MP is Soundwave, it probably won't be that small.

I honestly don't get why scale is such a bad thing. It's not like Sideswipe will cost as much as the other MPs...

Whoah! The price seems too much for a voyager figure, I hope this comes with a lot of accessories though..

Kibble wrote:

Mindmaster wrote:

TheCrookedMan wrote:$159.99 is pretty expensive for a Voyager.

I wouldn't say he's a Voyager. Probably somewhere in between a Voyager and a Leader. I can see where BBTS is coming up with its figures in price; seeing how it's foreign, probably more show-accurate, die-cast, etc. I agree the price is scandalous, but charging lower than $90 is a little bad for their business.

I've read it's been measured against MP-10 and it it comes out to 17 cm...so not quite 7 inches. Without the fig in front of me, I think that comes out to about Classics Prime size. If it's anywhere near $160, I won't be touching the Takara version.

I just looked at the pic of mp-12 next to mp-10 and he comes up to the silver stripe on primes rib section so I took some voyager figures and started to line them up and voyager dotm prime seems like the best fit

orangeitis wrote:

CrimsonPrime wrote:To those who wanna know the size of MP-12, he's around RiD Megs size. I did a comparison with my MP-10 awhile ago. He's a Voyager class with the price of a Masterpiece...The world is seriously coming to an end~

PS : If the next MP is also Voyager size...I am losing any hope I have left for Takara >.>...

Someone said that the bot mode of every MP after -10 will be in scale. If the next MP is Soundwave, it probably won't be that small.

I honestly don't get why scale is such a bad thing. It's not like Sideswipe will cost as much as the other MPs...

I'm not sure if you're trying to be funny, or not, but Sideswipe's price is looking to be the same as, if not worse than some of the other MPs.

For a much smaller figure...

Autobot032 wrote:I'm not sure if you're trying to be funny, or not, but Sideswipe's price is looking to be the same as, if not worse than some of the other MPs.

For a much smaller figure...

No, I'm not trying to be funny.

Wait till we get a domestic release for like $35.

orangeitis wrote:

Autobot032 wrote:I'm not sure if you're trying to be funny, or not, but Sideswipe's price is looking to be the same as, if not worse than some of the other MPs.

For a much smaller figure...

No, I'm not trying to be funny.

Wait till we get a domestic release for like $35.

It already went from $150 to $130 on bbts it's gonna be less than $100 they gotta know no one would bay that much for a single voyager figure unless you were building hurcules lol

orangeitis wrote:

Autobot032 wrote:I'm not sure if you're trying to be funny, or not, but Sideswipe's price is looking to be the same as, if not worse than some of the other MPs.

For a much smaller figure...

No, I'm not trying to be funny.

Wait till we get a domestic release for like $35.

$35? Not a chance. TRU will carry it, again. They'll milk it for all it's worth. I have no doubt that if we do see it, it won't be available under $50.00...

Hotrodimust wrote:

orangeitis wrote:

Autobot032 wrote:I'm not sure if you're trying to be funny, or not, but Sideswipe's price is looking to be the same as, if not worse than some of the other MPs.

For a much smaller figure...

No, I'm not trying to be funny.

Wait till we get a domestic release for like $35.

It already went from $150 to $130 on bbts it's gonna be less than $100 they gotta know no one would bay that much for a single voyager figure unless you were building hurcules lol

First of all, it apparently can fit in MP-10's trailer, and standard Voyagers can't... it's more than likely deluxe-sized. Secondly, Hercules isn't even a Transformer, so it's unfair to even compare the two.

Autobot032 wrote:

orangeitis wrote:

Autobot032 wrote:I'm not sure if you're trying to be funny, or not, but Sideswipe's price is looking to be the same as, if not worse than some of the other MPs.

For a much smaller figure...

No, I'm not trying to be funny.

Wait till we get a domestic release for like $35.

$35? Not a chance. TRU will carry it, again. They'll milk it for all it's worth. I have no doubt that if we do see it, it won't be available under $50.00...

It's too small to be over $40 retail, IMO. It would be unreasonable to charge as much as an MP seeker for an MP carformer.

orangeitis wrote:

Hotrodimust wrote:

orangeitis wrote:

Autobot032 wrote:I'm not sure if you're trying to be funny, or not, but Sideswipe's price is looking to be the same as, if not worse than some of the other MPs.

For a much smaller figure...

No, I'm not trying to be funny.

Wait till we get a domestic release for like $35.

It already went from $150 to $130 on bbts it's gonna be less than $100 they gotta know no one would bay that much for a single voyager figure unless you were building hurcules lol

First of all, it apparently can fit in MP-10's trailer, and standard Voyagers can't... it's more than likely deluxe-sized. Secondly, Hercules isn't even a Transformer, so it's unfair to even compare the two.

Autobot032 wrote:

orangeitis wrote:

Autobot032 wrote:I'm not sure if you're trying to be funny, or not, but Sideswipe's price is looking to be the same as, if not worse than some of the other MPs.

For a much smaller figure...

No, I'm not trying to be funny.

Wait till we get a domestic release for like $35.

$35? Not a chance. TRU will carry it, again. They'll milk it for all it's worth. I have no doubt that if we do see it, it won't be available under $50.00...

It's too small to be over $40 retail, IMO. It would be unreasonable to charge as much as an MP seeker for an MP carformer.

Um first of all yes a voyager will fit in mp 10s trailer I fit my altinator silverstreak in fine and they see people are will to spend a $100 a 3rd party voyager figure why not charge that for official product. But that must be to much for you to comprehend. Hercules isn't a TF LOL what is it a gi joe just because it's not made by takara and hasbro dosnt make it any less of a TF to me. I actually enjoy a lot of 3rd party stuff over the official

Hotrodimust wrote:Um first of all yes a voyager will fit in mp 10s trailer I fit my altinator silverstreak in fine and they see people are will to spend a $100 a 3rd party voyager figure why not charge that for official product. But that must be to much for you to comprehend. Hercules isn't a TF LOL what is it a gi joe just because it's not made by takara and hasbro dosnt make it any less of a TF to me. I actually enjoy a lot of 3rd party stuff over the official

Dude, do you have to be such a jerk?

Well to you, Hercules might be a TF, but officially, it's just another transforming robot that looks like a TF. You can believe what you want, but don't argue with the presupposition that those beliefs are a fact.

Also, Takara's MP-10 was like $250 online. Hasbro's retail MP-10 is $100, which is only 40% of Takara's price tag. If Takara's MP-12 is $100 now, it won't be more than $40 when it's released domestically. Do the smurfin' math.

Hotrodimust wrote:But that must be to much for you to comprehend.

This crap? Again? Knock it off! I mean it!

orangeitis wrote:

Hotrodimust wrote:Um first of all yes a voyager will fit in mp 10s trailer I fit my altinator silverstreak in fine and they see people are will to spend a $100 a 3rd party voyager figure why not charge that for official product. But that must be to much for you to comprehend. Hercules isn't a TF LOL what is it a gi joe just because it's not made by takara and hasbro dosnt make it any less of a TF to me. I actually enjoy a lot of 3rd party stuff over the official

Dude, do you have to be such a jerk?

Well to you, Hercules might be a TF, but officially, it's just another transforming robot that looks like a TF. You can believe what you want, but don't argue with the presupposition that those beliefs are a fact.

Also, Takara's MP-10 was like $250 online. Hasbro's retail MP-10 is $100, which is only 40% of Takara's price tag. If Takara's MP-12 is $100 now, it won't be more than $40 when it's released domestically. Do the smurfin' math.

So a 40% reduction in price is a guarantee you must work for hasbro now or did you break it down to a science. And who said it will release in America hasbro knows a prime figure will sell how about we see if SS makes it to the states b4 we start guessing pricing on a figure that might not sell to well and not make it to the states

Hotrodimust wrote:

orangeitis wrote:

Hotrodimust wrote:Um first of all yes a voyager will fit in mp 10s trailer I fit my altinator silverstreak in fine and they see people are will to spend a $100 a 3rd party voyager figure why not charge that for official product. But that must be to much for you to comprehend. Hercules isn't a TF LOL what is it a gi joe just because it's not made by takara and hasbro dosnt make it any less of a TF to me. I actually enjoy a lot of 3rd party stuff over the official

Dude, do you have to be such a jerk?

Well to you, Hercules might be a TF, but officially, it's just another transforming robot that looks like a TF. You can believe what you want, but don't argue with the presupposition that those beliefs are a fact.

Also, Takara's MP-10 was like $250 online. Hasbro's retail MP-10 is $100, which is only 40% of Takara's price tag. If Takara's MP-12 is $100 now, it won't be more than $40 when it's released domestically. Do the smurfin' math.

So a 40% reduction in price is a guarantee you must work for hasbro now or did you break it down to a science. And who said it will release in America hasbro knows a prime figure will sell how about we see if SS makes it to the states b4 we start guessing pricing on a figure that might not sell to well and not make it to the states

Outside of Megatron (because he's a very realistic looking handgun) and Rodimus (because his trailer was omitted), we've received every single Masterpiece mold in one form or another. Optimus, Starscream, Skywarp, Rodimus, Grimlock, have all seen releases here in the US. Sideswipe has nothing on him to prohibit a release, such as Megatron, and nothing needs to be modified, such as Rodimus. Given the track record, we have every reason to assume we'll receive a US release.

Hotrodimust wrote:

orangeitis wrote:

Hotrodimust wrote:Um first of all yes a voyager will fit in mp 10s trailer I fit my altinator silverstreak in fine and they see people are will to spend a $100 a 3rd party voyager figure why not charge that for official product. But that must be to much for you to comprehend. Hercules isn't a TF LOL what is it a gi joe just because it's not made by takara and hasbro dosnt make it any less of a TF to me. I actually enjoy a lot of 3rd party stuff over the official

Dude, do you have to be such a jerk?

Well to you, Hercules might be a TF, but officially, it's just another transforming robot that looks like a TF. You can believe what you want, but don't argue with the presupposition that those beliefs are a fact.

Also, Takara's MP-10 was like $250 online. Hasbro's retail MP-10 is $100, which is only 40% of Takara's price tag. If Takara's MP-12 is $100 now, it won't be more than $40 when it's released domestically. Do the smurfin' math.

So a 40% reduction in price is a guarantee you must work for hasbro now or did you break it down to a science. And who said it will release in America hasbro knows a prime figure will sell how about we see if SS makes it to the states b4 we start guessing pricing on a figure that might not sell to well and not make it to the states

I made a reasonable assessment based on the statistics. What have you got?

orangeitis wrote:

Hotrodimust wrote:

orangeitis wrote:

Hotrodimust wrote:Um first of all yes a voyager will fit in mp 10s trailer I fit my altinator silverstreak in fine and they see people are will to spend a $100 a 3rd party voyager figure why not charge that for official product. But that must be to much for you to comprehend. Hercules isn't a TF LOL what is it a gi joe just because it's not made by takara and hasbro dosnt make it any less of a TF to me. I actually enjoy a lot of 3rd party stuff over the official

Dude, do you have to be such a jerk?

Well to you, Hercules might be a TF, but officially, it's just another transforming robot that looks like a TF. You can believe what you want, but don't argue with the presupposition that those beliefs are a fact.

Also, Takara's MP-10 was like $250 online. Hasbro's retail MP-10 is $100, which is only 40% of Takara's price tag. If Takara's MP-12 is $100 now, it won't be more than $40 when it's released domestically. Do the smurfin' math.

So a 40% reduction in price is a guarantee you must work for hasbro now or did you break it down to a science. And who said it will release in America hasbro knows a prime figure will sell how about we see if SS makes it to the states b4 we start guessing pricing on a figure that might not sell to well and not make it to the states

I made a reasonable assessment based on the statistics. What have you got?

A life