Va'al wrote:Deadput wrote:Actually I don't know my mother's name is Valerie so is Va'al actually my mother?
Yes. Now go to your room and don't play with yourself.
Quantum Surge wrote:I like this trailer a bit more than the last one, and the plot itself feels pretty interesting with the Decepticons reformatting the Autobots, but I'm still on the fence with the animation, voices, and how it heavily relies on the "G1 but dark and mature" gimmick. Maybe it'll be better than Machinima's Prime Wars, but we'll see.
sol magnus wrote:Quantum Surge wrote:I like this trailer a bit more than the last one, and the plot itself feels pretty interesting with the Decepticons reformatting the Autobots, but I'm still on the fence with the animation, voices, and how it heavily relies on the "G1 but dark and mature" gimmick. Maybe it'll be better than Machinima's Prime Wars, but we'll see.
I watched those. They were practically unwatchable. And if the trailers are any indication, the plot, scripting and everything is better than that. But it's a low bar.
"Passable at first and then better as it goes along" sounds like a good description of Cyberverse.ZeroWolf wrote:I'll be okay if it's passable, as it means it can easily improve as we go from Siege to Earthrise and beyond.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Silverwing wrote:Also, I feel compelled to give the obligatory:
One for each year of the Movieverse's decade strong tenure. Here's to a few more explosive years!
Tigerhawk7109 wrote:Am I the only one who’s getting my hopes up, because the trailers, voices, and animation are all EPIC?
ZeroWolf wrote:I'll put it this way, some of the same staff behind the prime wars cartoons are involved in this. If you didn't have the delight of watching them, count yourself lucky
ZeroWolf wrote:I'll put it this way, some of the same staff behind the prime wars cartoons are involved in this. If you didn't have the delight of watching them, count yourself lucky
Let's also keep in mind that it's not Netflix but Rooster Teeth who's making this show.sol magnus wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:I'll put it this way, some of the same staff behind the prime wars cartoons are involved in this. If you didn't have the delight of watching them, count yourself lucky
Agreed, but I just think Netflix just ain't gonna put anything on their service that doesn't have minimum standards of quality.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
sol magnus wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:I'll put it this way, some of the same staff behind the prime wars cartoons are involved in this. If you didn't have the delight of watching them, count yourself lucky
Agreed, but I just think Netflix just ain't gonna put anything on their service that doesn't have minimum standards of quality.
To me, this is a huge draw towards what I've seen so far. It's obvious that there is more than just the child market, and I'm personally elated to see it going "dark and mature". I watched a few of the different series throughout the years, but found them all far too kiddified and disappointing.Quantum Surge wrote:.. how it heavily relies on the "G1 but dark and mature" gimmick.
The main thing is that The Dark Knight was meaningful in its darkness. There was social commentary and allegory and metaphors and all kinds of weighty and impactful substance. Conversely, if this show turns out to be just depressing and violent grimdark for the sake of depressing and violent grimdark, then that's not maturity, that's shallowness.transformers_va wrote:To me, this is a huge draw towards what I've seen so far. It's obvious that there is more than just the child market, and I'm personally elated to see it going "dark and mature". I watched a few of the different series throughout the years, but found them all far too kiddified and disappointing.Quantum Surge wrote:.. how it heavily relies on the "G1 but dark and mature" gimmick.
If Cyberverse == 60s Batman, and this == Dark Knight, then I'm stoked for the new show!
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:The main thing is that The Dark Knight was meaningful in its darkness. There was social commentary and allegory and metaphors and all kinds of weighty and impactful substance. Conversely, if this show turns out to be just depressing and violent grimdark for the sake of depressing and violent grimdark, then that's not maturity, that's shallowness.transformers_va wrote:To me, this is a huge draw towards what I've seen so far. It's obvious that there is more than just the child market, and I'm personally elated to see it going "dark and mature". I watched a few of the different series throughout the years, but found them all far too kiddified and disappointing.Quantum Surge wrote:.. how it heavily relies on the "G1 but dark and mature" gimmick.
If Cyberverse == 60s Batman, and this == Dark Knight, then I'm stoked for the new show!
Or to put it another way, Batman is cooler when, after struggling to beat his enemy, he ultimately overcomes them with his cunning mind and unyielding will while setting an inspiring example for the viewing audience and channeling a thought-provoking message for us to consider and possibly debate over afterward, rather than when he beats his enemy by sticking a bullet in their head and blowing out their gooey brains all over the camera in full graphic detail, while surrounded by carcasses and skeletons set against the smoldering backdrop of Gotham City on fire and in total ruin.
In short, substance over spectacle is key.
Also, Cyberverse was a far cry from 60s Batman. If anything, the closest TF cartoon equivalent to 60s Batman would be the G1 cartoon, and which was still a far cry from 60s Batman.
I think there is definitely meaning in the dark tone of this new series as well.. it is the war for Cybertron after allSabrblade wrote:The main thing is that The Dark Knight was meaningful behind the darkness.
transformers_va wrote:I think there is definitely meaning in the dark tone of this new series as well.. it is the war for Cybertron after allSabrblade wrote:The main thing is that The Dark Knight was meaningful behind the darkness.
Yes, and in reality, war is a very miserable, grotesque thing full of death and turmoil. That's why most TF fiction has usually downplayed the grimness and bloodiness of warfare to focus instead on more uplifting or character-driven aspects of war like hope, strategy, skills, and character dynamics.transformers_va wrote:I think there is definitely meaning in the dark tone of this new series as well.. it is the war for Cybertron after allSabrblade wrote:The main thing is that The Dark Knight was meaningful behind the darkness.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
I agree with you 100% about the games, and I'm hoping that the series is well done too. I won't judge it based of a few minutes of preview, and instead look forward to watchingQuantum Surge wrote:The Cybertron games, setting aside their medium, have a meaning behind the dark tone, but I felt there was more engagement in the story as well as characters that were able to remain unique from one another.
I think we can all agree that something similar in tone to those games would suffice, as those games had cool stories that didn't glorify the miseries of war, but instead focused on fun action and cool ideas.transformers_va wrote:I agree with you 100% about the games, and I'm hoping that the series is well done too. I won't judge it based of a few minutes of preview, and instead look forward to watchingQuantum Surge wrote:The Cybertron games, setting aside their medium, have a meaning behind the dark tone, but I felt there was more engagement in the story as well as characters that were able to remain unique from one another.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
I absolutely 100% agree! I'm also hoping that along with the fun action, and cool ideas, they have some tinges of humour as well (just not kiddified)Sabrblade wrote:I think we can all agree that something similar in tone to those games would suffice, as those games had cool stories that didn't glorify the miseries of war, but instead focused on fun action and cool ideas.
sol magnus wrote:It almost seems like the fans want this to be bad. The trailers are pretty good. You think they put ALL the good stuff in three short trailers? Really?
ZeroWolf wrote:sol magnus wrote:It almost seems like the fans want this to be bad. The trailers are pretty good. You think they put ALL the good stuff in three short trailers? Really?
Why not? Everyone else does these days The art of making a quality trailer that teases awesome things without giving everything away is a lost art form.
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