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-Kanrabat- wrote:TOO MUCH ENERGON! wrote:Netflix deciding to pass on Legacy is a sign that the viewership wasn’t there and little else. They care about what brings them new subscribers and views and obviously the War For Cybertron Trilogy didn’t move the needle to their satisfaction.
Exactly.
Whenever a show is "good", "bad", "outrageous", or "amazing" is of no importance.
Money talk.
Great show with little views get cancelled all the time while horrible show but with high view counts get renewed seasons after seasons. It's always viewership.
Thinking about it, viewership for Animated season 3 must have taken a nosedive for S04 to be cancelled. Maybe too much random human villains?
That isn't even close to true. Season 3 was the one that got rid of all the human villains. Even Sari got shafted by barely appearing in that season. Season 4 didn't happen because Hasbro simply didn't want to continue it, because they instead wanted to promote their new partnership with Discovery in creating The Hub Network (which was to be a rival to Cartoon Network) and promote their new Aligned continuity with an all new cartoon made closer in tone to the movies to serve as the centerpiece for this new aligned vision: Transformers: Prime.-Kanrabat- wrote:Thinking about it, viewership for Animated season 3 must have taken a nosedive for S04 to be cancelled. Maybe too much random human villains?
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
ZeroWolf wrote:Actually I think it may of had more to do with Hasbro launching their own channel (hasbro made Animated with Cartoon Network, who were about to become a rival)
Starbuck14 wrote:I am bummed about this. The legacy series offers hype for the toy line for families and junior fans which helps keep this franchise breathing. I know y’all hate on anything that isn’t g1 and that’s sad really. Exposure from different perspectives and different show ideas is what keeps this brand alive and keeps new things coming our way, I just wish hasbro could produce this stuff as a “straight to dvd” or “straight for purchase/rent online.” Or even pack in episodes with the figures purchased. Families and kids seek this stuff out to be drawn into the franchise, new fans means more new figures and a sustained existence for transformers! Let’s be real, all of us 80’s fans ain’t getting any younger and once we go, the transformers may just go with us.
TOO MUCH ENERGON! wrote:Bingo. The only people I’ve seen trashing the War For Cybertron show are people on forums like this who are to be frank, probably too beholden to the original source material to give a new interpretation a decent shake.
"...This might also be a sign of general streaming service disinterest in "dogsh*t" transformers content, as both War for Cybertron and the Prime Wars series were received with a mainly negative reaction from fans and apathy from the general public at best..."
Sabrblade wrote:That isn't even close to true. Season 3 was the one that got rid of all the human villains. Even Sari got shafted by barely appearing in that season. Season 4 didn't happen because Hasbro simply didn't want to continue it, because they instead wanted to promote their new partnership with Discovery in creating The Hub Network (which was to be a rival to Cartoon Network) and promote their new Aligned continuity with an all new cartoon made closer in tone to the movies to serve as the centerpiece for this new aligned vision: Transformers: Prime.-Kanrabat- wrote:Thinking about it, viewership for Animated season 3 must have taken a nosedive for S04 to be cancelled. Maybe too much random human villains?
In other words, Hasbro killed Animated because it wasn't Aligned enough, and wanted to make Prime instead.
primalxconvoy wrote:Sabrblade wrote:That isn't even close to true. Season 3 was the one that got rid of all the human villains. Even Sari got shafted by barely appearing in that season. Season 4 didn't happen because Hasbro simply didn't want to continue it, because they instead wanted to promote their new partnership with Discovery in creating The Hub Network (which was to be a rival to Cartoon Network) and promote their new Aligned continuity with an all new cartoon made closer in tone to the movies to serve as the centerpiece for this new aligned vision: Transformers: Prime.-Kanrabat- wrote:Thinking about it, viewership for Animated season 3 must have taken a nosedive for S04 to be cancelled. Maybe too much random human villains?
In other words, Hasbro killed Animated because it wasn't Aligned enough, and wanted to make Prime instead.
I heard one major reason why Animated got the chop was that the toys sold poorly, possibly due to their aesthetic. Basically, a great toon, but it wasn't enough to convince the target demographic to buy such unorthodox-looking TF toys.
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One for each year of the Movieverse's decade strong tenure. Here's to a few more explosive years!
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:In light of the release of the new trailer for Transformers One, a short article was posted by GiantFreakinRobot about the War For Cybertron Trilogy cartoon on Netflix, and this article is nothing short of hilarious.
Like, every paragraph, every sentence, every letter is written from with a delirious, delusional state of mind that actually thinks longtime fans want depressing garbage like the Netflix WFCT cartoon just as long as the characters are depicted in classic G1-esque character designs, as if that and a darker tone are all that matters. Not good writing, not good voice acting, not good directing, not good character work, just G1 designs and edgy grimdarkness. Gag me.
Even funnier, the article actually calls the G1 cartoon "mediocre", something older fans had to "settle for", yet it praises the Netflix cartoon for having designs that look enough like it?
Quantum Surge wrote:Sabrblade wrote:In light of the release of the new trailer for Transformers One, a short article was posted by GiantFreakinRobot about the War For Cybertron Trilogy cartoon on Netflix, and this article is nothing short of hilarious.
Like, every paragraph, every sentence, every letter is written from with a delirious, delusional state of mind that actually thinks longtime fans want depressing garbage like the Netflix WFCT cartoon just as long as the characters are depicted in classic G1-esque character designs, as if that and a darker tone are all that matters. Not good writing, not good voice acting, not good directing, not good character work, just G1 designs and edgy grimdarkness. Gag me.
Even funnier, the article actually calls the G1 cartoon "mediocre", something older fans had to "settle for", yet it praises the Netflix cartoon for having designs that look enough like it?
See this is why I can't take nerd culture seriously. They mock newer interpretations of franchises that are deemed too dark or grim yet give praise to them if they say it's like a childhood show but dark and gritty. I would agree with GFR that the G1 cartoon holds up poorly in a handful of areas, but I'd still watch it over the Netflix crap since it's not written by schmucks who would think any other version of TF is poor (especially given how nerd culture clout pigs are on social media)
-Kanrabat- wrote:TF Prime is unbeatable.
The Netflix show is garbage because they are basically extended adds. Nothing more.
Rodimus Prime wrote:Wow, so much bitterness and vitriol towards the trilogy.
I also thought it was on the lower end of quality story telling, and even most of the voice acting was subpar. But it wasn't the worst ever, IMO. I do agree that Rooster Teeth and the people who produced the series have no clue how to properly present a Transformers series, but it begs the question, just show much involvement and influence did Hasbro have? We all know executives and bean counters aren't exactly the best story tellers.
And we got some pretty decent figures out if it.
Machinima's Prime Wars Trilogy was objectively inferior.-Kanrabat- wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:Wow, so much bitterness and vitriol towards the trilogy.
I also thought it was on the lower end of quality story telling, and even most of the voice acting was subpar. But it wasn't the worst ever, IMO. I do agree that Rooster Teeth and the people who produced the series have no clue how to properly present a Transformers series, but it begs the question, just show much involvement and influence did Hasbro have? We all know executives and bean counters aren't exactly the best story tellers.
And we got some pretty decent figures out if it.
What would be the worst of the worst TF series, then?
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
More like we got some pretty decent figures in spite of the cartoon, since the figures were made first; the cartoon just used the toy designs right down to the screw hole details.Rodimus Prime wrote:And we got some pretty decent figures out if it.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
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