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o.supreme wrote:Razorbeast88 wrote:o.supreme wrote:Razorbeast88 wrote:And also, if the budget on this thing was so limited why not hire Scott McNeil? He could've done like half the voices and still made it great. Hell, he probably could've Dee Bradley Baker'd it
He's still part of the actors union though...
Yeah, just wishful thinking
If you want to see him "Dee Bradley Baker " a show though...Check out Bucky O'Hare and the Toad wars. It also has Garry Chalk, but supposedly McNeil was doing up to 12 different characters on that show.(according to him...could be false memory though)
^ This so much!Razorbeast88 wrote:And I seriously can't help but think, why didn't they switch the voice actors for Dinobot and Tigatron? Tigatron sounds like he's imitating Dinobot. And Dinobots smooth tone matches more with Tigatron.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:It's bad enough when modern TF fiction uses TFTM quote so casually, as if the larger fandom isn't sick and tired of overquoting TFTM... but this show, this show had the gall, the audacity, to quote one of the most poignant lines from "Code of Hero", in a completely different context inferior to the original. The minute this version of Dinobot spoke that line, I yelled at my TV "How DARE you!"^ This so much!Razorbeast88 wrote:And I seriously can't help but think, why didn't they switch the voice actors for Dinobot and Tigatron? Tigatron sounds like he's imitating Dinobot. And Dinobots smooth tone matches more with Tigatron.
Cottontail Smith wrote:Rabbits. I hate rabbits. If there's one thing I hate more than a rabbit, is two rabbits.
That line was the culmination of Dinobot's entire character journey in the original show. For this show to just use it so casually, without any regard for why it was significant in the first place, is as disgraceful as when DOTM had Sentinel Prime quote Spock's dying words to use them as justification for genocide.Razorbeast88 wrote:It definitely didn't hit the same. They could've done WAY better job with his dialogue and picking what quotes to use but I appreciated the effort. I saw it as a nod to fans, though poorly executed.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:That line was the culmination of Dinobot's entire character journey in the original show. For this show to just use it so casually, without any regard for why it was significant in the first place, is as disgraceful as when DOTM had Sentinel Prime quote Spock's dying words to use them as justification for genocide.Razorbeast88 wrote:It definitely didn't hit the same. They could've done WAY better job with his dialogue and picking what quotes to use but I appreciated the effort. I saw it as a nod to fans, though poorly executed.
I can guarantee that nobody was asking for "Code of Hero, but worse".Razorbeast88 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:That line was the culmination of Dinobot's entire character journey in the original show. For this show to just use it so casually, without any regard for why it was significant in the first place, is as disgraceful as when DOTM had Sentinel Prime quote Spock's dying words to use them as justification for genocide.Razorbeast88 wrote:It definitely didn't hit the same. They could've done WAY better job with his dialogue and picking what quotes to use but I appreciated the effort. I saw it as a nod to fans, though poorly executed.
I see how you feel a little more now
To be fair I don't think anything in the future is going to match the magnificence of BW Dinobot, especially not in Code of Hero. I don't think I'll ever tire of watching it
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:I can guarantee that nobody was asking for "Code of Hero, but worse".Razorbeast88 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:That line was the culmination of Dinobot's entire character journey in the original show. For this show to just use it so casually, without any regard for why it was significant in the first place, is as disgraceful as when DOTM had Sentinel Prime quote Spock's dying words to use them as justification for genocide.Razorbeast88 wrote:It definitely didn't hit the same. They could've done WAY better job with his dialogue and picking what quotes to use but I appreciated the effort. I saw it as a nod to fans, though poorly executed.
I see how you feel a little more now
To be fair I don't think anything in the future is going to match the magnificence of BW Dinobot, especially not in Code of Hero. I don't think I'll ever tire of watching it
There are times when folks writing Transformers need to stop trying to be cool. Both of these are examples of those times.Sabrblade wrote:That line was the culmination of Dinobot's entire character journey in the original show. For this show to just use it so casually, without any regard for why it was significant in the first place, is as disgraceful as when DOTM had Sentinel Prime quote Spock's dying words to use them as justification for genocide.Razorbeast88 wrote:It definitely didn't hit the same. They could've done WAY better job with his dialogue and picking what quotes to use but I appreciated the effort. I saw it as a nod to fans, though poorly executed.
ScottyP wrote:There are times when folks writing Transformers need to stop trying to be cool. Both of these are examples of those times.Sabrblade wrote:That line was the culmination of Dinobot's entire character journey in the original show. For this show to just use it so casually, without any regard for why it was significant in the first place, is as disgraceful as when DOTM had Sentinel Prime quote Spock's dying words to use them as justification for genocide.Razorbeast88 wrote:It definitely didn't hit the same. They could've done WAY better job with his dialogue and picking what quotes to use but I appreciated the effort. I saw it as a nod to fans, though poorly executed.
Whifflefire wrote:My biggest disappointment with Kingdom is the confirmation that the Cybertron-based cast were all killed, thus rendering half of Earthrise kind of pointless. I had a theory that with the introduction of time-travel, the Autobots might have found a way to return to their time just before the apparent deaths of Elita and Co. and rescue them, since their plot ended on a cliffhanger. With their fates kind of ambiguous, it would have been a brilliant way to resolve that ending and the trilogy with all of the characters reuniting. The series had been really good at not wasting its cast, that it chose 'total annihilation' as the end of this part of the story is an underwhelming and unfortunate conclusion.
The thing is, we're never given any reason to believe that Dinobot and Primal in this series ever had the kind of relationship that would have warranted such nuanced banter between the two, making the humor behind that line feel unearned.Razorbeast88 wrote:I liked the little joke about how he wouldve made a terrible Maximal, if only because it seems like the humor that Dinobot enjoys
Thats how he interacted with rattrap in the beast wars series, even up to his death in code of hero
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:The thing is, we're never given any reason to believe that Dinobot and Primal in this series ever had the kind of relationship that would have warranted such nuanced banter between the two, making the humor behind that line feel unearned.Razorbeast88 wrote:I liked the little joke about how he wouldve made a terrible Maximal, if only because it seems like the humor that Dinobot enjoys
Thats how he interacted with rattrap in the beast wars series, even up to his death in code of hero
This show expects its viewers to already be familiar with the original BW series and how all of its characters behaved and interacted with each other, as if that somehow excuses this show from writing its new versions of the BW cast as their own characters without the audience needing to do additional homework in order to get everything that's onscreen in this show, never taking into consideration any new viewers who aren't already familiar with Beast Wars.
That's one of the same flaws as found in the live action remake of Aladdin, which similarly expected its own audience to already be familiar with the original animated movie and thus didn't explain everything that the original movie did feel the need to explain.
Razorbeast88 wrote:Though I'm not sure they would've been able to include the proper explanations considering they were limited to the 6 episodes with each episode being 20ish minutes. Plus incorporating all the different characters and the plot.
-Kanrabat- wrote:TF-fan kev777 wrote:First-Aid wrote:Okay, did anyone else notice that we all get a wonderful shot of Starscreams crotch anytime he sits in that throne? That's unnerving. Couldn't they have put n extra flap in there? It's....weird.
Its kind of like Basic Instinct, but not in a good way...
Goddammit, now I can't unsee it.
"Air Commander" is a G1 reference, it was Starscream's function in his original 1984 toy bio. The BW episode mentioning it was thanks to Ben Yee providing Starscream's toy bio to the episode's writer.primalxconvoy wrote:- Lots of fan-service (G1 and BW animals fighting each other, BW references, such as "Air Commander Starscream", etc).
Generic cannon fodder foot soldiers, just like all the Cog duplicates, all the Refraktor duplicates, all the extra Seekers, and more from the previous two seasons.primalxconvoy wrote:- What the DICKENS were all of the Scorponok clones about?
It was to provide the Autobots with a quick victory against the Nemesis, wrapping up that battle fast so that all the Decepticons and Predacons could be rounded up and locked up aboard the Ark.primalxconvoy wrote:- No point of using the Ark in bot mode (as the budget could have been used for other, more important things in the show).
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:"Air Commander" is a G1 reference, it was Starscream's function in his original 1984 toy bio. The BW episode mentioning it was thanks to Ben Yee providing Starscream's toy bio to the episode's writer.primalxconvoy wrote:- Lots of fan-service (G1 and BW animals fighting each other, BW references, such as "Air Commander Starscream", etc).
Yes, like I said, it was BW fan service.Generic cannon fodder foot soldiers, just like all the Cog duplicates, all the Refraktor duplicates, all the extra Seekers, and more from the previous two seasons.primalxconvoy wrote:- What the DICKENS were all of the Scorponok clones about?
Not really. Scorponok was never cloned cannon-fodder. In the previous Seige cartoons, the clones were usually recoloured. In this show, he wasn't.
It was to provide the Autobots with a quick victory against the Nemesis, wrapping up that battle fast so that all the Decepticons and Predacons could be rounded up and locked up aboard the Ark.primalxconvoy wrote:- No point of using the Ark in bot mode (as the budget could have been used for other, more important things in the show).
Doesn't matter what color they were. They were cannon fodder meant to boost the Predacons' ranks in the same way all of the other duplicate generics were. No one said anything about cloning.primalxconvoy wrote:Not really. Scorponok was never cloned cannon-fodder. In the previous Seige cartoons, the clones were usually recoloured. In this show, he wasn't.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
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