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Deadput wrote:Why does no one see how morally wrong that is in-universe?
Deadput wrote:steals_your_goats wrote:
There have been bad primes before. What difference does it honestly make if a prime was an autobot that went bad as opposed to just a decepticon?
NO NO NO NO NO
Read my other freaking posts before hand there is a major difference between a Prime who goes bad later after they have became one and a guy who was already a really evil person who did really evil things who is suddenly forgiven and becomes a Prime and the damn leader of their planet
and all of those Primes were fakes anyways it's acknowledged in story that they were not chosen by the matrix and were voted for by the corrupted senate.
No Decepticon will ever be a Good Prime because eventually they are to have to go back to being bad guys again like how Megatron is going to become evil again in IDW.
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:...but also Prime's have been shown in several cases to be just ranks in several universes, so he really could be "Shockwave Prime" and not have a matrix. the matrix didn't exist in animated.
And really, there are no guys on that list who couldn't be a Prime. they may be bad in some universes, but there exists a universe where they were all good at some point.
So really, anything is possible. And I'd find a Decepticon Prime cool. Would really offset things, like how Starscream has been running Cybertron in IDW and is making it work and has for years
Va'al wrote:Deadput wrote:Actually I don't know my mother's name is Valerie so is Va'al actually my mother?
Yes. Now go to your room and don't play with yourself.
Kurona wrote:MaverickPrime wrote:If the only choices are those in the poster, I'm Hound all the way, I like the character and I feel he needs a little spotlight FAR MORE than the others on the list.(even if Star Saber on HASBRO material is interesting by itself), besides, it would ve fresh, all others have had a leadership role before.
However, if there're more choices or we can suggest our own(which I doubt), I have to go with Jazz! he's the second in command in some continuities and he's one of the coolest characters in the whole mythos, and his presence carries respect and motivations for those under his command, I LOVED how in FoC, when Bruticus attacks the arc, everyone just runs and gives up, but as soon as Jazz arrives, they all recover their spirit just by seeing him joining the battle.![]()
Others I feel also deserve Primehood are Ironhide and Springer, maybe even Kup.
Hound actually has had a leadership role before; in Furman-era IDW he commanded his own little group which included Sideswipe, Warpath, Skram and Road Rocket. And much later during Dark Cybertron while both Magnus and Rodimus were off doing other things, he assumed control of the Lost Light.
Kurona wrote:Zeta, Sentinel, Nova and the like were twisted before becoming Prime. Hell, the recent Titans Return crossover even explicitly says that becoming a Prime was part of Sentinel's whole gameplan. The only difference is that no-one knew what sort of people they were, and for years after their reign ended still didn't.
Va'al wrote:Deadput wrote:Actually I don't know my mother's name is Valerie so is Va'al actually my mother?
Yes. Now go to your room and don't play with yourself.
Deadput wrote:D-Maximus_Prime wrote:...but also Prime's have been shown in several cases to be just ranks in several universes, so he really could be "Shockwave Prime" and not have a matrix. the matrix didn't exist in animated.
And really, there are no guys on that list who couldn't be a Prime. they may be bad in some universes, but there exists a universe where they were all good at some point.
So really, anything is possible. And I'd find a Decepticon Prime cool. Would really offset things, like how Starscream has been running Cybertron in IDW and is making it work and has for years
But the only continuity this matters for is IDW in which a Prime is not a rank it's something your chosen for by the matrix because you fall into the requisites for being one!
In IDW theses guys are evil who have committed genocide and even if Megatron has given up that life he is still guilty and he can't be redeemed for starting the war which took so many and continues to take lives, Shockwave might have been brainwashed but he still did almost destroy the universe willingly and when his mind came back he was so horrified that he asked Prime and Megatron to destroy him, Thunderwing is an abomination and a monster in this universe so that speaks for itself, Deathasaurs is kind to his comrades but he is a Decpeticon so he has killed Autobots brutally most likely especially since he agreed with the DJD to slaughter the lost light crew and Megatron don't bring other universes into this their not relevant!
Burn wrote:Agamemnon wrote:Let's get back to talking about Burn's mammoth snout flopping...
Well I am Australian. It's kinda what we're known for.
Cobotron wrote:I like the idea of a whole new faction.
War gets weird when there are three factions all fighting one another.
Think of the stories that could come out of that.
Cobotron wrote:I like the idea of a whole new faction.
War gets weird when there are three factions all fighting one another.
Think of the stories that could come out of that.
Deadput wrote:No Decepticon will ever be a Good Prime because eventually they are to have to go back to being bad guys again like how Megatron is going to become evil again in IDW.
Kurona wrote:For Deathsaurus specifically, the exact same could be said for most Autobots. Hot Rod and Orion Pax killed a ton of Decepticons during their time, as killers they're no different from the Decepticons. Meanwhile Deathsaurus specifically got his large crew together, stole a warship and tried to take them away from the main Decepticon forces for the exact reason of finding their methods too violent and too far removed from what they started out as and what they were formed to do. If anything I'd argue Deathsaurus makes a far better candidate and is far more noble and kind-hearted than the likes of Arcee and Hound.
And yeah, he joined up with the DJD to kill the Lost Light crew. Because it would take his crew off the list so that they wouldn't have to die.
Va'al wrote:Deadput wrote:Actually I don't know my mother's name is Valerie so is Va'al actually my mother?
Yes. Now go to your room and don't play with yourself.
Deadput wrote:No Decepticon will ever be a Good Prime because eventually they are to have to go back to being bad guys again like how Megatron is going to become evil again in IDW.
Deadput wrote:
Why does no one see how morally wrong that is in-universe?
Deadput wrote:Kurona wrote:For Deathsaurus specifically, the exact same could be said for most Autobots. Hot Rod and Orion Pax killed a ton of Decepticons during their time, as killers they're no different from the Decepticons. Meanwhile Deathsaurus specifically got his large crew together, stole a warship and tried to take them away from the main Decepticon forces for the exact reason of finding their methods too violent and too far removed from what they started out as and what they were formed to do. If anything I'd argue Deathsaurus makes a far better candidate and is far more noble and kind-hearted than the likes of Arcee and Hound.
And yeah, he joined up with the DJD to kill the Lost Light crew. Because it would take his crew off the list so that they wouldn't have to die.
The Autobots would not be killers if it were not for the Decepticons actually trying to kill them which Deathasaurs were part of.
Do you see the twisted killer Autobots like the Wreckers or Prowl or the Dinobots on there?
Most of these Autobots on there have honor and morals Star Saber is prick in IDW though and he is an Autobot in the loosest sense of the word.
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Deadput wrote:No Decepticon will ever be a Good Prime because eventually they are to have to go back to being bad guys again like how Megatron is going to become evil again in IDW.
Um, no he isn't, but that is beside the point.
Good guys go bad, and bad guys can go good. Stop trying to tell everyone they are wrong for wanting a Decepticon Prime. No one here is right and everyone is entitled to their opinion. Autobot Megatron has proven very popular and is looking to stick, so why can't someone else?
And besides, it's fiction. you can ignore it if you really don't like it.
Va'al wrote:Deadput wrote:Actually I don't know my mother's name is Valerie so is Va'al actually my mother?
Yes. Now go to your room and don't play with yourself.
Deadput wrote:D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Deadput wrote:No Decepticon will ever be a Good Prime because eventually they are to have to go back to being bad guys again like how Megatron is going to become evil again in IDW.
Um, no he isn't, but that is beside the point.
Good guys go bad, and bad guys can go good. Stop trying to tell everyone they are wrong for wanting a Decepticon Prime. No one here is right and everyone is entitled to their opinion. Autobot Megatron has proven very popular and is looking to stick, so why can't someone else?
And besides, it's fiction. you can ignore it if you really don't like it.
Starscream became a bad guy again in Energon after Armada because toys and status quo.
IT'S BECAUSE OF HASBRO AND THEIR TOYS THAT MEGATRON WILL BECOME EVIL AGAIN JUST LIKE HOW WE KNOW BUMBLEBEE IS GOING TO COME BACK MEGATRON WILL BE EVIL AGAIN WHETHER IT'S FROM A CLONE OR BRAINWASHING HE WILL BECOME THE DECEPTICON LEADER AGAIN AND WILL BE EVIL.
I can't ignore the damn fiction if it's the only good comic series to read or the only generations toy line to buy I can't ignore it I like Rid but for different reasons.
I can't ignore the flaws in a comic series I enjoy reading that "ignore it" statement is the stupidest **** I have heard here today.
Va'al wrote:Deadput wrote:Actually I don't know my mother's name is Valerie so is Va'al actually my mother?
Yes. Now go to your room and don't play with yourself.
ScottyP wrote:You know, I did try to steer this ship away from the rocks.
I think they're going to leave IDW alone for a bit, like 2012 - late 2013 level. Those creators have done a huge corporate favor with Revolution and deserve some time to play in that sandbox and start building a castle.
Va'al wrote:Deadput wrote:Actually I don't know my mother's name is Valerie so is Va'al actually my mother?
Yes. Now go to your room and don't play with yourself.
Deadput wrote:It's Hasbro they have no sense of private space when it comes to this and other comic stuff these days unless it's with Bay.
Deadput wrote:I have to take a break
How do you mean?UltraPrimal wrote:Good to see Rob Liefeld getting some work these days.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
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