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[LuckytheWonderLlama]

Once again the masses over react to incompetent news reporting.

If you people would get your information from a reliable source that is primarily dedicated to gathering information about the subject in question...

Winona Ryder has signed on to play Amanda Grayson in J.J. Abrams' Star Trek.

She is playing a human. The few times that Amanda Grayson had screen time in TOS or the Movies, she had a very "Vulcan" demeanor about her with slight bouts of "Human" emotionalism. Ryder is perfect for that.

The casting for the crew of the Starship Enterprise, NCC-1701 has been completed. This is for the next Star Trek movie by J.J. Abrams.

Ensign Pavel Chekov:

Walter Koenig


Anton Yelchin

Lieutenant Nyota Uhura:

Nichelle Nichols


Zoe Saldana

Lieutenant Hikaru Sulu:

George Takei


John Cho

Lieutenant Commander Montgomery Scott:

James Dooahn (3 March 1920 – 20 July 2005)


Simon Pegg

Lieutenant Commander, Doctor Leonard H. McCoy:

DeForest Kelley (20 January 1920 - 11 June 1999)


Karl Urban

Commander Spock:

Leonard Nimoy


Zachary Quinto

Captain James T. Kirk:

William Shatner


Chris Pine

In addition to the crew:

Amanda Grayson (Commander Spock's Human Mother)

Jane Wyatt (12 August 1910 – 20 October 2006)


Winona Ryder

Captain Christopher Pike

Jeffrey Hunter (25 November 1926 – 27 May 1969)


Bruce Greenwood

Based on this, we can assume that the plot of the film will take place between 2265 and 2266. Captain Kirk assumed command of the Enterprise from Pike in early 2265. The Enterprise embarked on its historic five year mission that was chronicled in TOS and TAS. (TOS: "Where No Man Has Gone Before"). Captain Pike was horribly disfigured in an accident in 2266 (TOS: "The Menagerie, Part I).

[sto_vo_kor_2000]

Once again the masses over react to incompetent news reporting.

If you people would get your information from a reliable source that is primarily dedicated to gathering information about the subject in question...

Winona Ryder has signed on to play Amanda Grayson in J.J. Abrams' Star Trek.

She is playing a human. The few times that Amanda Grayson had screen time in TOS or the Movies, she had a very "Vulcan" demeanor about her with slight bouts of "Human" emotionalism. Ryder is perfect for that.


Based on this, we can assume that the plot of the film will take place between 2265 and 2266. Captain Kirk assumed command of the Enterprise from Pike in early 2265. The Enterprise embarked on its historic five year mission that was chronicled in TOS and TAS. (TOS: "Where No Man Has Gone Before"). Captain Pike was horribly disfigured in an accident in 2266 (TOS: "The Menagerie, Part I).

Memory Alpha is a sub division of wikipedia and isint always very reliable.But we werent just over reacting to that one possible mistake.Its the over all issues of changing Trek history that seems will most likly happen as a result of thos film.The same issues have plaged ST in a few different time traveling episodes and ST Enterprise.


And its starting to look like that one way or the other this film is chaging Trek's history.They have shorten the age gap between Checkov and Kirk.Again shorten the age gap between Kirk and Scotty and widened the age gap between Kirk and Pike.

In "The Menagerie" they say that Kirk and Pike are about the same age but there's about a 15 years difference between them now [ witch makes more sence any way] witch contradict's what was said by Commodore Mendez.

[OptimusN1701]

Like Sto_ I'm pissed about all of the other stuff thats getting changed left and right here

Part of me will feel betrayed if things go as speculated

[Moonbase2]

I don't know, guys, seeing young Spock got me excited (not THAT way!) and I'm gonna give the writers the benefit of the doubt. But I'm more willing to overlook some small details, as long as there aren't huge mistakes that aren't explained at all. I can take the history changes if it's done well enough.

[Wolfguard]

So far, I'm pretty content with the recasting. With any luck, the Romulans being in this movie will be more than a rumor; they need some big-screen redemption after that Nemesis debacle (funkin' Remens stole their glory.)

Now I want to see how the Enterprise looks...

[sto_vo_kor_2000]

I don't know, guys, seeing young Spock got me excited (not THAT way!) and I'm gonna give the writers the benefit of the doubt. But I'm more willing to overlook some small details, as long as there aren't huge mistakes that aren't explained at all. I can take the history changes if it's done well enough.

You got me worried there for a sec..........I thought you were getting into Vulcans

[sto_vo_kor_2000]

So far, I'm pretty content with the recasting. With any luck, the Romulans being in this movie will be more than a rumor; they need some big-screen redemption after that Nemesis debacle (funkin' Remens stole their glory.)

Now I want to see how the Enterprise looks...

Cant tell you that these are 100% legit but the source I got them from is correct most of the time.

[Jaw Crusher]

So far, I'm pretty content with the recasting. With any luck, the Romulans being in this movie will be more than a rumor; they need some big-screen redemption after that Nemesis debacle (funkin' Remens stole their glory.)

Now I want to see how the Enterprise looks...

Cant tell you that these are 100% legit but the source I got them from is correct most of the time.

Those were done by Gabe Koerner long before production on the new movie began - more about him here: http://www.memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Gabriel_Koerner. Plus here's the ship in motion: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oP6PEVWyGF0

I dunno if this is what's going to be used, though. Most of the online sources I keep reading that claim to have seen the new 1701 can't make up their minds whether it's recognizable or not. This one definitely passes for "updated 1701", IMO.

[sto_vo_kor_2000]

So far, I'm pretty content with the recasting. With any luck, the Romulans being in this movie will be more than a rumor; they need some big-screen redemption after that Nemesis debacle (funkin' Remens stole their glory.)

Now I want to see how the Enterprise looks...

Cant tell you that these are 100% legit but the source I got them from is correct most of the time.

Those were done by Gabe Koerner long before production on the new movie began - more about him here: http://www.memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Gabriel_Koerner. Plus here's the ship in motion: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oP6PEVWyGF0

I dunno if this is what's going to be used, though. Most of the online sources I keep reading that claim to have seen the new 1701 can't make up their minds whether it's recognizable or not. This one definitely passes for "updated 1701", IMO.

I didnt know those were from Gabe but I guess its very possible.The last time I talked to him [not very offten] he said that he was approched to work on some new video games on Star Trek.....maybe he was trying to hide his possible involvement in the new film or that maybe they asked him for a few 3D models on a new ship.

I know he also does a lot of fan films so this could just be more of that but this would the best designs that I've seen from him.

[Wheeljack35]

What has happened to this thread?

[Insurgent]

Changing the history in Enterprise didn't bother me too much, as there was a Temporal Cold War that could be attributed to causing changes beyond what we saw on screen, and what changes were made were to the time they got certain techs or certain aliens. This movie is risking the change of complete re writes of beloved characters with set history, and by changing the history, you change the characters.


Also, sweet pics. That front view is my new desktop.

[sto_vo_kor_2000]

What has happened to this thread?

What do you meen?????????

[Wheeljack35]

The reposting of the Enterprise

Dogs and Cats living together

[sto_vo_kor_2000]

Also, sweet pics. That front view is my new desktop.

I did the same

[sto_vo_kor_2000]

The reposting of the Enterprise

Dogs and Cats living together

Funny

[Wheeljack35]

I really hope they use this Enterprise

It's a beautiful ship

[sto_vo_kor_2000]

I really hope they use this Enterprise

It's a beautiful ship

Yeah I like it too

[LuckytheWonderLlama]

I don't know why people are so worried about continuity in Star Trek. Those two concepts have never gone together since the second episode of TOS came out.

My big issue with Trek is that most of the better story lines were in the novels. The novels counted for squat in the continuity.

If there is one thing that you die hard Trekies can be thankful for it's that Rick Berman is not attached to this film.

I am looking forward to this film. I can't wait! And yes, I hope that that is the Enterprise model they use.

[sto_vo_kor_2000]

I don't know why people are so worried about continuity in Star Trek. Those two concepts have never gone together since the second episode of TOS came out.

My big issue with Trek is that most of the better story lines were in the novels. The novels counted for squat in the continuity.

If there is one thing that you die hard Trekies can be thankful for it's that Rick Berman is not attached to this film.

I am looking forward to this film. I can't wait! And yes, I hope that that is the Enterprise model they use.

Whats wrong with Rick Berman in your opinion????He was chosen by Gene Roddenberry to helm the Star Trek franchise....He helped to presided and helped to created the BEST thing to happen to the world of Star Trek...Deep Space Nine and he also helped create both The Next Generation and Voyager [it wasnt that bad anyway].
He was also heavly involved in First contact and the other TNG films [even tho they werent that good]

Altho he was executive produce of Enterprise he wasnt really that involved in the creation of its characters.

[LuckytheWonderLlama]

I've have no problem with the Berman. I loved DS9 and First Contact. Generations was "meh". Insurrection was good. Nemesis was just a blatant rip off of Wrath of Khan. A bad one at that.

I have talked to many a Total Geeked out, Costume wearing, can't separate TV from real life Trekkies that want Berman hanged, drawn and quartered, torn into little bitty pieces, burned at the stake, and buried alive. In that order.

They blame him for driving Star Trek into a black hole.

I think he did fine.

It was Paramount in the driver's seat over the event horizon.

[sto_vo_kor_2000]

I've have no problem with the Berman. I loved DS9 and First Contact. Generations was "meh". Insurrection was good. Nemesis was just a blatant rip off of Wrath of Khan. A bad one at that.

Most Trekies I know havent noticed how Nemesis was a rip off of The Wrath of Khan.They freak when I tell them and then slowly notice it them selfs.Thats why I havent mentioned it here...I didnt want to get into a 30 page debate over it.

I have talked to many a Total Geeked out, Costume wearing, can't separate TV from real life Trekkies that want Berman hanged, drawn and quartered, torn into little bitty pieces, burned at the stake, and buried alive. In that order.

They blame him for driving Star Trek into a black hole.

I think he did fine.

It was Paramount in the driver's seat over the event horizon.

I know that there's a lot of hate for him out there but to tell the truth the real problem is that Trek got a bit stale....people got tired of seeing the same things on Voyeger that they saw on TNG.So many episodes had the same plot.What can you do right?????????

[OptimusN1701]

I've have no problem with the Berman. I loved DS9 and First Contact. Generations was "meh". Insurrection was good. Nemesis was just a blatant rip off of Wrath of Khan. A bad one at that.

Most Trekies I know havent noticed how Nemesis was a rip off of The Wrath of Khan.They freak when I tell them and then slowly notice it them selfs.Thats why I havent mentioned it here...I didnt want to get into a 30 page debate over it.

Oh thank God, for the longest time I thought I was alone on that opinion

I dont see how you cant notice it, especially Data's death and B4 singing at the end

Well, at least I know I'm not crazy now[/quote]

[sto_vo_kor_2000]

I've have no problem with the Berman. I loved DS9 and First Contact. Generations was "meh". Insurrection was good. Nemesis was just a blatant rip off of Wrath of Khan. A bad one at that.

Most Trekies I know havent noticed how Nemesis was a rip off of The Wrath of Khan.They freak when I tell them and then slowly notice it them selfs.Thats why I havent mentioned it here...I didnt want to get into a 30 page debate over it.

Oh thank God, for the longest time I thought I was alone on that opinion

I dont see how you cant notice it, especially Data's death and B4 singing at the end

Well, at least I know I'm not crazy now

Dont worry........your still crazy

[Wheeljack35]

I don't know why people are so worried about continuity in Star Trek. Those two concepts have never gone together since the second episode of TOS came out.

My big issue with Trek is that most of the better story lines were in the novels. The novels counted for squat in the continuity.

If there is one thing that you die hard Trekies can be thankful for it's that Rick Berman is not attached to this film.

I am looking forward to this film. I can't wait! And yes, I hope that that is the Enterprise model they use.

Whats wrong with Rick Berman in your opinion????He was chosen by Gene Roddenberry to helm the Star Trek franchise....He helped to presided and helped to created the BEST thing to happen to the world of Star Trek...Deep Space Nine and he also helped create both The Next Generation and Voyager [it wasnt that bad anyway].
He was also heavly involved in First contact and the other TNG films [even tho they werent that good]

Although he was executive produce of Enterprise he wasnt really that involved in the creation of its characters.

Berman wasn't Roddenberry for one and under Berman Star Trek became stale and boring

I wouldn't mind seeing Star Trek reinvented....It needs to be in order to survive

Of course there are Trekkies out there that hate the idea of change .I use the term Trekkies because to me these are the people who want what we had and it can't be like that anymore

I see myself as a Trekker nowadays...A Trekker is a Star Trek fan who moves on


Origionaly to me back when TNG came out I used Trekkies to describe fans of TOS and didn't want anything new

and Trekker ment to progress

But as the shows came out like Voyager and Enterprise I lost my taste for Star Trek

I used to live it breath it.TNG came out at a time that the Transformers were on hiatus(Between G1 and Beast Wars)

But if this movie brings Star Trek in a new light as in being reinvented i'm now all for it

Yeah I was pissed off at first about them neglecting Federation and Starfleet History but I have moved on.

[sto_vo_kor_2000]

Berman wasn't Roddenberry for one and under Berman Star Trek became stale and boring

After almost 20 years anything will get a bit stale and boring.

I wouldn't mind seeing Star Trek reinvented....It needs to be in order to survive

Of course there are Trekkies out there that hate the idea of change .I use the term Trekkies because to me these are the people who want what we had and it can't be like that anymore

I see myself as a Trekker nowadays...A Trekker is a Star Trek fan who moves on

I consider myself a Trekie because it was the original term to describe us.I'm old school baby.
To me a Trekker is a fan thats a bit ashamed to admit that he/she may be connected in small way to the over nutty, knowing every peace of dialoge, wearing their ST uniforms to work and court that has a hard time realalizing that there's a difference between fantazy and the real world kind of crazed fan.

I have no problem moving on.....I even watched Enterprise every week because I feel that even bad Trek is better then no Trek [like sex]

Origionaly to me back when TNG came out I used Trekkies to describe fans of TOS and didn't want anything new

and Trekker ment to progress

But as the shows came out like Voyager and Enterprise I lost my taste for Star Trek

I used to live it breath it.TNG came out at a time that the Transformers were on hiatus(Between G1 and Beast Wars)

But if this movie brings Star Trek in a new light as in being reinvented i'm now all for it

Yeah I was pissed off at first about them neglecting Federation and Starfleet History but I have moved on.

I'll give this film a chance.I just hope that any changes ,even if their big one's, have an explaination.I have no problem if history changes because something happens in the past to change the flow of history....but the changes that are pissing me off are the type that have no excuse, like the age differences between the TOS and the new film.