omega666 wrote:I just finished watching the ROTF DVD with their commentary. I am GLAD they won't be back. Seems like if it were up to these two, TF would be all bout the humans. Star Trek can have them.
Black Bumblebee wrote:So much bile on the writers? Really? Have you even been reading the same information?
They are not to blame for the way that Transformers turned out. They wrote a SCRIPT TREATMENT right before the writer's strike, which was an "idea" of how the movie should be written. And if you look at the "idea" behind the movie... it wasn't bad in conception, just in execution.
Orci and Kurtzman are not responsible for the potty humor. That is BAY and all BAY. He's even admitted it.
"Yeah, I was like... hey, it would be cool to have two robots that were complete morons."
He is the one who started making the movie without a script. He is the one who said he was "writing" several new things into the script.
Xena and Hercules might have been a bit goofy at times... but it also could be dramatically serious. They know how to balance things. Both Fringe and Alias are highly dramatic shows with moderate humor. Star Trek was quite successful and a highly enjoyable film.
So what is different with Transformers? Bay.
He is one responsible for dog humping, wrecking ball swinging, pot brownie eating, yuck fest that was ROTF.
Black Bumblebee wrote:So much bile on the writers? Really? Have you even been reading the same information?
They are not to blame for the way that Transformers turned out. They wrote a SCRIPT TREATMENT right before the writer's strike, which was an "idea" of how the movie should be written. And if you look at the "idea" behind the movie... it wasn't bad in conception, just in execution.
Orci and Kurtzman are not responsible for the potty humor. That is BAY and all BAY. He's even admitted it.
"Yeah, I was like... hey, it would be cool to have two robots that were complete morons."
He is the one who started making the movie without a script. He is the one who said he was "writing" several new things into the script...
He's got some pretty far-out powers to go along with them, too, including teleportation, the projection of trippy telepathic visions and illusions, and the ability to groove on the language of 98% of all known species. To uses his powers to the fullest, though, he's gotta be feelin' good vibrations; bad karma can seriously harsh his mellow, y'know?
Black Bumblebee wrote:Xena and Hercules might have been a bit goofy at times... but it also could be dramatically serious. They know how to balance things. Both Fringe and Alias are highly dramatic shows with moderate humor. Star Trek was quite successful and a highly enjoyable film.
hellkitty wrote:Oh if only 'lack of time' had kept them out of ROTF. I still think once they finished Star Trek and their other project, any talent they had was simply running on fumes. It's appalling to me that they didn't save their best effort for ROTF--thinking it would coast, while they would have to work to 'make' Star Trek.
And it really, in one sense, sickens me that they've gotten away with coasting. I haven't been able to bring myself to get a copy of the movie yet, because I know they're getting a cut.
HK, I hate bad writing. Even if it involves giant robots.
Shadowman wrote:I will put forth the theory that it was the internet itself trying to punch him in the face.
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