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Re: frustrated with 0-3 lvl missions

Post by Cecil » Fri Mar 27, 2026 5:06 am

There seems to be a lull in Decepticon mission activity starting about 2a.m. EST (-5 GMT) and ending at about 7a.m. In this time it seems cons can only muster about 3-4 bots per mission consisting of a few diehards and the rest 1s or 0s.

I've got my bots spec'ed for Avoid, Speed, and either firepower/courage or skill/strength. 2 points in skill or firepower will get you weapons with enough damage output to rack up plenty of points if you hit those level 3s. I've intentionally kept them on the cusp of level 1 to deny the cons too many points. I've been managing about 300-900 xp per mission in this time frame.

I know the hours are off if you're in the US and you're not a total nocturnal like myself but any bots across the pond getting to work at 7a.m. should take advantage of this window of opportunity.

Re: frustrated with 0-3 lvl missions

Post by Dragonslayer » Tue Feb 03, 2009 11:15 am

Yeah, I stopped playing for about 2 or 3 months a while back and just got back into it a few weeks ago, so you can imagine that I was at, and still am, a severe disadvantage because a lot of the opposition is at higher levels and experience than I am. The face that a lot of my back up is in the same boat as me doesn't help either, but I'm not complaining about that because that's not my problem. All I can do is keep fighting and plugging away and build up my XP enough to get stronger so then I can start kicking ass like I used to. We Autobots have always statistically been the more numerous faction, but we're also one of the most disadvantaged because of our size it's harder to get organized. That leads to slower growth of our 'Bots, making it harder to level up and get stronger. All we can do is keep fighting and move on and eventually we'll get better.

Re: frustrated with 0-3 lvl missions

Post by Deephaze » Mon Feb 02, 2009 4:57 pm

Today's been another fun one for the 0-3 missions

As per usual most missions are filled with 6 decepticons and usually 3-4 of them are level 2/3 with a couple level 1s and rarely a level 0. On the autobot side usually 1-2 level 2 autobots and a level 1 autobot or no autobots at all.

Having half a team of level 2s I've been able to plug them into any missions we have a half decent showing in and usually come away with 200-300 xp in a loss or 500-1k xp in a win. Typically when my 2s are in the CR chamber I use my high upgrade level 1s in the arena to gain energon..... well today there have been anywhere between 35-50 level 1 autobots waiting in the arena.

I'm no genius but I think a lack of 0-1 missions may be why most of the level 0 and 1 autobots are in the arena these days (not that I blame them its a simple matter of having a chance in the arena vs. a slaughter of our 0s/1s banded together in a 0-3 mission. Hopefully mods are noticing this because arena shouldn't be the only viable route for low level autobots.

Re: frustrated with 0-3 lvl missions

Post by Tirade » Sat Jan 31, 2009 10:01 pm

While I have not read all the replies in this thread, I tried to read most of them. Here's my take on it: leveling up from the beginning takes patience. More often than not, your bots are going to be destroyed in the early stages of development. Simple as that. I certainly do not expect my Level 0 bots to handle even a Level 1 con. Heck, I doubt my bots could take on certain Level 0 cons. But I have faith that one day they will be able to stand on their own :grin:.

Re: frustrated with 0-3 lvl missions

Post by Evolution Prime » Thu Jan 29, 2009 2:05 pm

I finally had to drop my bottom six back down to Level 0. This covers the cost of repairs for my top six. Reset them and gave them 3 speed and 1 avoid. It seems to be working out alright for them. I mix them up in the arena and missions, but mostly have been the arena. My top six are still plugging away in the mission, though they still are outmatched. This will help you keep your money up until you start improving in the missions.

Re: frustrated with 0-3 lvl missions

Post by quetzalcoatl » Thu Jan 29, 2009 1:34 pm

ChocolateThunder wrote:I'm still grinding it out at lvl 1 but I can see having to drop down to lvl 0 soon. I'll keep throwing myself into missions and I hope everyone else continues to fight despite the frustration, it's just a matter of time and fortitude.
CT

yeah,Ive lost over 15k energon thanks to the 40% win ratio as previously mentioned. Either drop down or hide in arena, either way it hurts everyone else.

Re: frustrated with 0-3 lvl missions

Post by ChocolateThunder » Thu Jan 29, 2009 1:09 pm

I'm still grinding it out at lvl 1 but I can see having to drop down to lvl 0 soon. I'll keep throwing myself into missions and I hope everyone else continues to fight despite the frustration, it's just a matter of time and fortitude.
CT

Re: frustrated with 0-3 lvl missions

Post by SolCross » Wed Jan 28, 2009 5:30 pm

quetzalcoatl wrote:Im frustrated with the odds, but by no means am I giving up.


That's the Autobot spirit! :)

I may be fairly new, but we just need to charge forward with our heads down into this. Otherwise, they've already won. I go into the fray regardless of whether or not it's just me versus 6, which is brutal when you're level 0, but we just need to keep going at it.

Re: frustrated with 0-3 lvl missions

Post by quetzalcoatl » Wed Jan 28, 2009 9:14 am

Burn wrote:
emeraldbeacon wrote:At this point, the game is becoming less and less fun every day. I'm about to walk away until HMW2, and hope that the updated version of the game will have some *effective* balancing elements, to prevent the kind of runaway growth that some factions have acquired...


I say this not as a Moderator or even as a Decepticon Commander, I say it as a fellow player who's seen a lot of this stuff over the years.

And I also say this with absoloutely no offense intended, but that is probably one of the worst attitudes to be had.

If you walk away, you make the situation worse.

Now for a long time, even before the reset, everything weighed in the 'Cons favour. But then, and even now, we're not invincible. I remember a few players like Hoistimus, CJB, and even crazyfists coming along, they started at the bottom of the ladder when the tops were around level 6+. These three Commanders, all Autobots, clawed their way into the top 100 over time. Know why? Because they never gave up, even against the odds.

Hell I took great pleasure in beating them down. But it didn't matter what was thrown at them, they never gave up.

Now I look at guys like Nickolai, revengeofstarscream and neliz, the odds are often against them but they fight on and have clawed their way into impressive positions.

And if people are going to sit there and say "oh Burn, you don't know what it's like because you're in the most powerful faction and always have backup", well, WRONG! I come home from work and find myself constantly outnumbered, by Autobots at that! But I fight on even though 9 times out of 10 I end up running an energon loss.

At the end of the day though, you simply cannot give up. Emerald, you're here on the forums, these are one the best resources ANY player can have. Keep an eye on who's joining you in missions as well, find them, talk to them, see if you can get together to arrange to join the same missions (a concentrated effort is better than scattered forces) but simply do not give up!

well said.

Im frustrated with the odds, but by no means am I giving up.



I'll just have to sit on the corner of the street starting at some point next week to beg for a energon handout, as my wallet is rapidly emptying.



Anyone know where I can find a trained monkey and an accordian?
*shakes empty tin cup*

Re: frustrated with 0-3 lvl missions

Post by Nickolai » Wed Jan 28, 2009 4:08 am

Emerald, the trick is you have to get win%es, kill %es, heck even winning and losing out of your mind, just focus and GRIND. Powergaming is a must as well, a would-be successful bot has no choice but to go SPD, AVD and some CRG until you have around 100k experience.

Re: frustrated with 0-3 lvl missions

Post by Burn » Wed Jan 28, 2009 3:10 am

emeraldbeacon wrote:At this point, the game is becoming less and less fun every day. I'm about to walk away until HMW2, and hope that the updated version of the game will have some *effective* balancing elements, to prevent the kind of runaway growth that some factions have acquired...


I say this not as a Moderator or even as a Decepticon Commander, I say it as a fellow player who's seen a lot of this stuff over the years.

And I also say this with absoloutely no offense intended, but that is probably one of the worst attitudes to be had.

If you walk away, you make the situation worse.

Now for a long time, even before the reset, everything weighed in the 'Cons favour. But then, and even now, we're not invincible. I remember a few players like Hoistimus, CJB, and even crazyfists coming along, they started at the bottom of the ladder when the tops were around level 6+. These three Commanders, all Autobots, clawed their way into the top 100 over time. Know why? Because they never gave up, even against the odds.

Hell I took great pleasure in beating them down. But it didn't matter what was thrown at them, they never gave up.

Now I look at guys like Nickolai, revengeofstarscream and neliz, the odds are often against them but they fight on and have clawed their way into impressive positions.

And if people are going to sit there and say "oh Burn, you don't know what it's like because you're in the most powerful faction and always have backup", well, WRONG! I come home from work and find myself constantly outnumbered, by Autobots at that! But I fight on even though 9 times out of 10 I end up running an energon loss.

At the end of the day though, you simply cannot give up. Emerald, you're here on the forums, these are one the best resources ANY player can have. Keep an eye on who's joining you in missions as well, find them, talk to them, see if you can get together to arrange to join the same missions (a concentrated effort is better than scattered forces) but simply do not give up!

Re: frustrated with 0-3 lvl missions

Post by emeraldbeacon » Tue Jan 27, 2009 11:29 pm

quetzalcoatl wrote:
Randall K. Orton wrote:BELIEVE ME, your presences are very much wanted and needed in the 0-3 missions.

Haven't given up, but I do avoid the 6 on 1 missions... and most of the afternoon ones seem heavily laden with lvl 3's


just remember the line from "The Gambler"

--know when to walk away, know when to run


At this point, the game is becoming less and less fun every day. I'm about to walk away until HMW2, and hope that the updated version of the game will have some *effective* balancing elements, to prevent the kind of runaway growth that some factions have acquired...

Re: frustrated with 0-3 lvl missions

Post by quetzalcoatl » Mon Jan 26, 2009 12:13 pm

Randall K. Orton wrote:BELIEVE ME, your presences are very much wanted and needed in the 0-3 missions.

Haven't given up, but I do avoid the 6 on 1 missions... and most of the afternoon ones seem heavily laden with lvl 3's


just remember the line from "The Gambler"

--know when to walk away, know when to run

Re: frustrated with 0-3 lvl missions

Post by Nickolai » Sat Jan 24, 2009 9:39 pm

BELIEVE ME, your presences are very much wanted and needed in the 0-3 missions.

Re: frustrated with 0-3 lvl missions

Post by ChocolateThunder » Fri Jan 23, 2009 9:29 am

^AMEN^
I've gone to at least making 100 xp for a loss to making that much period... and if I get lucky. My cash is okay for now but it's beginning to drop and I don't see our luck changing that quickly.

Weren't we supposed to see some 0-1 and 1-2 missions and not just leaving the 0-3 for us to be xp whores for the cons?
CT

Re: frustrated with 0-3 lvl missions

Post by Evolution Prime » Thu Jan 22, 2009 3:21 pm

I am down about 25k from earlier this week, though 15k was donated to Overloaded. But that still means I've lost about 10k. Been getting killed in missions during the afternoon. HMW2 can't come soon enough. I really don't want to go back to Level 0 to build energon back up.

Re: frustrated with 0-3 lvl missions

Post by Deephaze » Wed Jan 21, 2009 12:40 pm

the energon is being sucked out of most of us right now I think

I've lost 20,000 energon in the past week and will be broke in 3 more weeks at the current rate.

Half of my bots are 1-2 upgrades into level 2 right now with the rest being 9-13 upgrades in level 1.

If energon keeps going down like it is I'll have to stop my level 1s when the get to max upgrades in level 1 and throw them into arenas over and over to replenish energon which is no good for anyone.

Less xp for my bots.
Less bots helping in missions.
Less bots to fight for the cons.

Like I said hopefully things will improve but things arn't looking good based on last weeks results.

My last six missions:
Shoota Strafer - LOSS - 0xp / 0 energon
Blip Avoider - WIN - 394xp / 291 energon
Strypes Strafer - LOSS - 140xp / 105 energon
Slip Avoider - LOSS - 22xp / 22 energon
Flip Avoider - LOSS - 214xp / 145 energon
Bloodroar Rammer - LOSS - 140xp / 88 energon

They were all 6 vs 6 and in a few of them the total levels for the team were relatively close, but in everyone the cons had at least 1 more level as a team and in a few it wasn't even close.

Re: frustrated with 0-3 lvl missions

Post by ashe5k » Sun Jan 18, 2009 1:36 pm

I love going from doing decent in the missions to completely sucking. It's fantastic!

On a brighter note, I'm going to keep at it until this works cause even though I'm getting my ass handed to me, my bots are still making decent exp even if my energon is plummeting like local business sales.

Re: frustrated with 0-3 lvl missions

Post by emeraldbeacon » Sat Jan 17, 2009 8:01 pm

I'm getting tired of having EVERY SINGLE ONE of my bots carried out of a mission in stasis lock, because the new mission setup is over-saturating the field with Autobot-Decepticon matchups. All I see is a list of 9 or 10 missions that are usually stacked 1-6 against our side. I'm loathe to give the Cons the free experience as their level 2s and 3s rip my level 1s some new tailpipes... but what other options do I have?

My energon flow, which had been steadily increasing, is barely maintaining, now. If nothing changes, I'll have to reformat all my bots (including my low level 2s) into heavy level-1 rammers, and stick to the arenas, where at least I can be assured I'll have a fair, one-on-one fight...

Does anyone know if there's anything in place or coming soon, that'll help alleviate this overwhelming Decepticon presence? Or have any suggestions on how to weather this storm? Or if there's really no hope and that I should just stop trying?

Re: frustrated with 0-3 lvl missions

Post by Wingspan » Thu Jan 15, 2009 10:01 pm

How very not-un-crazzamatic of you.

Now if we could only get a Maximal in this thread our collection would be complete...

As to game changing - yes, yes it will. To date stat-maxing has not been an effective strategy (reseting to spend more XP to max Spd, Crg, etc.). With missions that stop at Level 1 or 2, some may be tempted to keep reseting/saving/bullying rather than growing.

Those that do get the badge of shame-you-have-no-nuts though, so it's all good.

Re: frustrated with 0-3 lvl missions

Post by Psychout » Thu Jan 15, 2009 8:44 pm

CF has taken leave to study for his finals, he'll be back soon enough and although you cant see it, he does still represent you guys when its needed, he's just the quiet calculating type whereas the 'cons selected are the more 'gobby' ones.
Believe me, you'd be proud of the work he's put in.

This game needs all 4 factions to feel a part of it to work, and when it comes to the game as a whole, all 4 factions will always be represented equally by all of us.

Re: frustrated with 0-3 lvl missions

Post by neliz » Thu Jan 15, 2009 6:43 pm

Psychout wrote:Hopefully not, but it will give the L0-1 guys a much easier time.

(It feels so wrong posting in here. lol.)


I was wondering when you would say that.. doesn't the team need ONE extra Bot Admin? CF is hardly online anyway.

Re: frustrated with 0-3 lvl missions

Post by Psychout » Thu Jan 15, 2009 6:30 pm

Hopefully not, but it will give the L0-1 guys a much easier time.

(It feels so wrong posting in here. lol.)

Re: frustrated with 0-3 lvl missions

Post by Wingspan » Thu Jan 15, 2009 6:18 pm

And it's going to completely change how we play this game.... dun dun dun!

Re: frustrated with 0-3 lvl missions

Post by quetzalcoatl » Thu Jan 15, 2009 6:06 pm

thanks much psychout... the old missions worked wonders.

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