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Potential Takara Tomy Repaint/Remolds: Omnibots, Alpha Trion, and More

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Re: Potential Takara Tomy Repaint/Remolds: Omnibots, Alpha Trion, and More

Postby Diem » Wed May 14, 2014 8:17 pm

T-Macksimus wrote:None of them! That's how many I'd like to see done. I'd rather they left the characters alone instead of making a lazy attempt and re-hashing molds that have already been used to a dozen other characters before them. It cheapens the figures they are attempting to pay tribute to. I don't care if it's Million or Hasbro or whoever. Show some respect for the characters by either giving them their own new molds or don't even bother trying.
And yes, I'm quite aware that they used molds over again back in the original series but way back then there was this thing called moderation. Nowadays, they go absolutely ape-sh** cranking out repaint after repaint of any given mold and it's just sickening and insulting.


Well Million Publishing doesn't have the budget to crank out a new mold so the options are basically: a repaint that is a character that has very low odds of getting its own mold or literally nothing. And I'm sure there are a bunch of people who would rather have and Alpha Trion or Go-shuta who is a repaint than none at all.

And the thing with repaints, Hasbro or otherwise, is that no-one is forcing you to buy them. Are they taking up space on shelves and blocking production of new molds? Quite the converse; Hasbro have established time and time again that using repaints lets them stretch the same mold budget further and produce more new molds.

In addition, Hasbro are getting increasingly smart about doing repaints better. Alternate headsculpts? Great idea.

I'd love to see new molds for all characters. But if it's a choice between getting a smartly done repaint or nothing at all, I'll pick the former.
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Re: Potential Takara Tomy Repaint/Remolds: Omnibots, Alpha Trion, and More

Postby shajaki » Wed May 14, 2014 9:47 pm

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Diem wrote:In addition, Hasbro are getting increasingly smart about doing repaints better. Alternate headsculpts? Great idea.
yes. in the past their reuse of molds have been quite lazy. just simply repaints. but lately theyve been giving us new heads to boot. which may not sound like much, but it goes leaps and bounds to please me at least.
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Re: Potential Takara Tomy Repaint/Remolds: Omnibots, Alpha Trion, and More

Postby El Duque » Wed May 14, 2014 9:57 pm

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Here's a better look at the full page from Million Publishing's latest Transformers Generations volume. A poll with ten potential repaint/redecos for upcoming exclusives. They are as follows:

  1. Alpha Trion using the Generations Scourge mold
  2. The Fallen using the Generations FoC Onslaught mold
  3. Sunstreaker Police Type using the Universe Sunstreaker mold
  4. Smokescreen using the Universe Smokescreen mold
  5. Autobot Drift Black Version using the Generations Drift mold
  6. Omnibot Overdrive using the Universe Smokescreen mold
  7. Ominbot Camshaft using the Generations Wheeljack mold
  8. Omnibot Downshift using the Universe Ironhide mold
  9. Beast Wars Silverbolt using the Beast Hunters Grimwing mold
  10. Goshooter using the Generations Nightbeat mold

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Re: Potential Takara Tomy Repaint/Remolds: Omnibots, Alpha Trion, and More

Postby Zeedust » Wed May 14, 2014 10:03 pm

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I'd like bigger images, but I like that Silverbolt. I don't generally import, but I might make an exception in the off-chance that the polls go in Silverbolt's favor.
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Postby Sabrblade » Wed May 14, 2014 10:08 pm

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Re: Potential Takara Tomy Repaint/Remolds: Omnibots, Alpha Trion, and More

Postby Black Bumblebee » Wed May 14, 2014 10:20 pm

Yes to all except The Fallen, Black Drift, and Camshaft (though I'd probably be guilt tripped into buying Cam if the other 2 Omnibots were made). Ah heck... just yes to them all. Classics rule.
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Re: Potential Takara Tomy Repaint/Remolds: Omnibots, Alpha Trion, and More

Postby dedcat » Wed May 14, 2014 10:24 pm

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My vote is for Go Shooter (on the condition he gets a retooled head) with Silverbolt a close second.

These are good choices for tie-in exclusives, but lets see an omnibot 3-pack outside of the Million umbrella, please.
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Re: Potential Takara Tomy Repaint/Remolds: Omnibots, Alpha Trion, and More

Postby Sabrblade » Wed May 14, 2014 10:26 pm

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dedcat wrote:My vote is for Go Shooter (on the condition he gets a retooled head)
Million Publishing exclusives are always straight redecos. Goshooter gets an existing head for that mold.
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Re: Potential Takara Tomy Repaint/Remolds: Omnibots, Alpha Trion, and More

Postby Diem » Wed May 14, 2014 10:54 pm

Going by my limited Japanese Alpha Trion's gun would be Vector Sigma (possibly the key), the Fallen uses the Ruination head, and Camshift uses some Tracks parts.

Personally I think Chevy Aveo Swerve makes a good Neon G1 red Omnibot.
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Re: Potential Takara Tomy Repaint/Remolds: Omnibots, Alpha Trion, and More

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Re: Potential Takara Tomy Repaint/Remolds: Omnibots, Alpha Trion, and More

Postby Mkall » Thu May 15, 2014 3:18 am

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Re: Potential Takara Tomy Repaint/Remolds: Omnibots, Alpha Trion, and More

Postby sixshot20 » Thu May 15, 2014 5:52 am

I really like the alpha trion and silverbolt but I see that silverbolt going for an extremely high price
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Re: Potential Takara Tomy Repaint/Remolds: Omnibots, Alpha Trion, and More

Postby Sabrblade » Thu May 15, 2014 6:07 am

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sixshot20 wrote:I really like the alpha trion and silverbolt but I see that silverbolt going for an extremely high price
Only if it gets made. Only one of these toys is gonna be made a reality.
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Re: Potential Takara Tomy Repaint/Remolds: Omnibots, Alpha Trion, and More

Postby hpfabe » Thu May 15, 2014 6:54 am

Now that we have the larger/clearer images, I want the Omnibots more than before. I don't think the vehicle modes are perfect, by any means, but these clearly (to me) were chosen based on robot modes, and those robot modes look about as much as classics renditions of the originals as you can get with any of the classics molds currently available.
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Re: Potential Takara Tomy Repaint/Remolds: Omnibots, Alpha Trion, and More

Postby Sabrblade » Thu May 15, 2014 8:20 am

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Snakas of Autobase Aichi has more info on this - http://snakas.blog95.fc2.com/blog-entry-3736.html

Fellow user BraveMax wrote the following about the info Snakas wrote:
BraveMax wrote:Snakas has more info up. This is from the Generations Book to be released this weekend. It's a vote for the next book's exclusive, who will figure prominently into part two of the "Train Wars" story. You vote for it when you send in the post card to buy Shouki.

These are all mockups (photoshops, I think), so some will vary from the final product.

Going down the list; his comments with addendums from what I can make out from the pic. I've got the book incoming soon, so I'll update when I get it in hand:

1. Alpha Trion from Scourge. Will come with Vector Sigma. The rest of it is hard for me to understand - I think it says the Vector Sigma will be a repaint of a Sparkbot? That or "the Vector Sigma that appropriated the Sparkbots" - so maybe some reference to a specific story?
2.The Fallen from FOC Onslaught. The combined mode head will be Ruination's, not Bruticus'.
3. Sunstreaker (Police Type) from Sunstreaker. It notes that this name is a placeholder, and says that he'll come with sirens and a partner.
4. Smokescreen from Smokescreen. Notes that it's using the same colors as the G2 Bomber - as in, the text below the picture does. So... Making that reference official?
5. Autobot Drift (Black Version) from Drift. Notes that this name is a placeholder.
6. Overdrive from Prowl. No notes.
7. Camshaft from Wheeljack. Notes that Tracks' weapons will also be included. (Snakas says it will use Tracks' weapons, but the picture says that "Tracks' parts will also be included.")
8. Downshift from Ironhide. No notes.
9. Metals Silverbolt from BH Grimwing. No notes.
10。GoShooter from "Goldbug Bumblebee" (IDW Bumblebee). Says the head will be Nightbeat's, and that it will come with his partner, Gou Shuuta, but that they haven't decided what toy that will be yet.

Snakas also notes that they're planning on including Microns and other forms of partners with all of these, though I haven't found that info in the pic yet.
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Re: Potential Takara Tomy Repaint/Remolds: Omnibots, Alpha Trion, and More

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Thu May 15, 2014 8:34 am

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Hmmmm... I may know what some notes are actually saying:

1. The Sparkbots may refer to the Kiss Players Sparkbots, who are repaints of the BWII EggBeasts. All three transform into spheres, the exact shape of Vector Sigma. I think the EggBot is the most natural form Vector Sigma will take after transformation.

2. Ruination's head has the same kind of "mouth" as Dreamwave's The Fallen. So that could give way for possibilities, like the combination mentioned before.

6. So Overdrive comes with a lightbar? Odd.

7. I wonder which Tracks parts they'd use? The back and bumper bits?

10. Can't wait to see what they'll pick. If Daniel is anything to go by, probably another PCC Mini-Con.
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Re: Potential Takara Tomy Repaint/Remolds: Omnibots, Alpha Trion, and More

Postby Sabrblade » Thu May 15, 2014 8:39 am

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JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:7. I wonder which Tracks parts they'd use? The back and bumper bits?
Since Snakas said the weapons, probably those clip on guns Tracks had that Wheeljack replaced with wrenches.
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Postby Wolfman Jake » Thu May 15, 2014 10:26 am

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I'm really digging the idea of getting the Omnibots finally in the "Classics" line. The mold choices for the repaints are definitely a lot more clever and well thought out than some people are giving credit for. My worry is that, even if we get one of them, we'll ONLY get that one. I'd love to get the Omnibots as a whole set. Does anyone thing Million Publishing would offer a gift set of them at a higher price than their exclusives usually sell for?
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Re: Potential Takara Tomy Repaint/Remolds: Omnibots, Alpha Trion, and More

Postby hpfabe » Thu May 15, 2014 10:55 am

Wolfman Jake wrote:I'm really digging the idea of getting the Omnibots finally in the "Classics" line. The mold choices for the repaints are definitely a lot more clever and well thought out than some people are giving credit for. My worry is that, even if we get one of them, we'll ONLY get that one. I'd love to get the Omnibots as a whole set. Does anyone thing Million Publishing would offer a gift set of them at a higher price than their exclusives usually sell for?


Agreed. Definitely want all 3, not just 1. Also, I'm not familiar with this Million Publishing thing; will we be able to buy these in the USA, without paying some ridiculous 2nd hand prices?
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Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Thu May 15, 2014 11:04 am

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Wolfman Jake wrote:I'm really digging the idea of getting the Omnibots finally in the "Classics" line. The mold choices for the repaints are definitely a lot more clever and well thought out than some people are giving credit for. My worry is that, even if we get one of them, we'll ONLY get that one. I'd love to get the Omnibots as a whole set. Does anyone thing Million Publishing would offer a gift set of them at a higher price than their exclusives usually sell for?


Agreed. Definitely want all 3, not just 1. Also, I'm not familiar with this Million Publishing thing; will we be able to buy these in the USA, without paying some ridiculous 2nd hand prices?


It's a Japanese Publishing company, so no. Maybe Hasbro or even the Club will take of the less complex ideas (SG Smokescreen anyone?)
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Re: Potential Takara Tomy Repaint/Remolds: Omnibots, Alpha Trion, and More

Postby Diem » Thu May 15, 2014 11:04 am

Wolfman Jake wrote:Does anyone thing Million Publishing would offer a gift set of them at a higher price than their exclusives usually sell for?


Possibly. They sold the Skids and Screech 2 pack a little while ago.

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Agreed. Definitely want all 3, not just 1. Also, I'm not familiar with this Million Publishing thing; will we be able to buy these in the USA, without paying some ridiculous 2nd hand prices?


Short answer, no. Long answer: Million Publishing are a Japanese company that publishes TF art books, as well as these Generations books, which are in-depth guides to TF product. They offer exclusives like this which, even in Japan, can only be purchased by buying the book, mailing in a post card that comes in the book, and waiting several months. As such, there certainly isn't an easy shortcut for those outside of Japan to get them.
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Re: Potential Takara Tomy Repaint/Remolds: Omnibots, Alpha Trion, and More

Postby Sabrblade » Thu May 15, 2014 2:57 pm

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Yeah, Skids & Screech is the only multi-pack they've ever released. The following is a rundown of all they've released:

  • 2009 - Gentei! Gentei! Electro Disruptor Ligier (Transformers Generations 2009 Volume 1)
  • 2009 - Gentei! Gentei! Starscream Ghost Version (Transformers Generations 2009 Volume 2)
  • 2009 - Encore Skids & Screech Quantum Operative Ver. (Transformers Generations 2009 Volume 3)
  • 2011 - United Stepper (Transformers Generations 2011)
  • 2011 - Animated Optimus Prime Elite Guard Version (Transformers Animated Encyclopedia)
  • 2012 - United Artfire (Transformers Generations 2012)
  • 2013 - Generations Infiltrator Starscream (Transformers Generations 2013)
And this year:

  • 2014 - Generations Shouki (Transformers Generations 2014 Volume 1)
  • 2014 - The winner of this ten-figure poll (Transformers Generations 2014 Volume 2)
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Re: Potential Takara Tomy Repaint/Remolds: Omnibots, Alpha Trion, and More

Postby hpfabe » Thu May 15, 2014 2:58 pm

Sabrblade wrote:Yeah, Skids & Screech is the only multi-pack they've ever released. The following is a rundown of all they've released:

  • 2009 - Gentei! Gentei! Electro Disruptor Ligier (Transformers Generations 2009 Volume 1)
  • 2009 - Gentei! Gentei! Starscream Ghost Version (Transformers Generations 2009 Volume 2)
  • 2009 - Encore Skids & Screech Quantum Operative Ver. (Transformers Generations 2009 Volume 3)
  • 2011 - United Stepper (Transformers Generations 2011)
  • 2011 - Animated Optimus Prime Elite Guard Version (Transformers Animated Encyclopedia)
  • 2012 - United Artfire (Transformers Generations 2012)
  • 2013 - Generations Infiltrator Starscream (Transformers Generations 2013)
And this year:

  • 2014 - Generations Shouki (Transformers Generations 2014 Volume 1)
  • 2014 - The winner of this ten-figure poll (Transformers Generations 2014 Volume 2)
Lemme know if I missed any.



I think I've seen some of these (if I'm not mistaken) on TFSource for reasonable prices in the past, so that give me some hope.
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Re: Potential Takara Tomy Repaint/Remolds: Omnibots, Alpha Trion, and More

Postby Diem » Thu May 15, 2014 3:21 pm

hpfabe wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Yeah, Skids & Screech is the only multi-pack they've ever released. The following is a rundown of all they've released:

  • 2009 - Gentei! Gentei! Electro Disruptor Ligier (Transformers Generations 2009 Volume 1)
  • 2009 - Gentei! Gentei! Starscream Ghost Version (Transformers Generations 2009 Volume 2)
  • 2009 - Encore Skids & Screech Quantum Operative Ver. (Transformers Generations 2009 Volume 3)
  • 2011 - United Stepper (Transformers Generations 2011)
  • 2011 - Animated Optimus Prime Elite Guard Version (Transformers Animated Encyclopedia)
  • 2012 - United Artfire (Transformers Generations 2012)
  • 2013 - Generations Infiltrator Starscream (Transformers Generations 2013)
And this year:

  • 2014 - Generations Shouki (Transformers Generations 2014 Volume 1)
  • 2014 - The winner of this ten-figure poll (Transformers Generations 2014 Volume 2)
Lemme know if I missed any.



I think I've seen some of these (if I'm not mistaken) on TFSource for reasonable prices in the past, so that give me some hope.


The ease of getting these varies I think. Obviously lots of people wanted Stepper and Artfire. The Skids and Screech set was less in demand.
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Re: Potential Takara Tomy Repaint/Remolds: Omnibots, Alpha Trion, and More

Postby Counterpunch » Thu May 15, 2014 9:26 pm

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And yes, I'm quite aware that they used molds over again back in the original series but way back then there was this thing called moderation. Nowadays, they go absolutely ape-sh** cranking out repaint after repaint of any given mold and it's just sickening and insulting.


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Right...

I'm not all that into redecos of late and even I thought these were all awesome (except Alpha Trion...that idea sucks).

I think you should reconsider your opinion. Many of these are good ideas for redecos.
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