The Energon Pub

EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:Really? Huh, I guess I should check out some reviews. The chest area looks a lot better on the FE imo, I just assumed it was better.

I definitely prefer FE Bumblebee over PRID Bumblebee.

I just watched a review and I still think it looks great as far as I can tell. Doesn't have the really long chest, weird head panel that sticks up in the back and never sits flush with the rest of the torso, or the arms that are always angled forwards that the PRID version has. Is it a QC thing with the FE? It looked like the chest may have some issues tabbing together.

Always angled forward?No,something is wrong.

By the way,the subject was over at my second comment.

The bottom of the box might be advertising other figures in the wave and not just/only what's in the box. From what I remember War Breakdown couldn't be released because it couldn't pass the US drop tests. I doubt that's changed 10 years later but stranger things have happened.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:The bottom of the box might be advertising other figures in the wave and not just/only what's in the box. From what I remember War Breakdown couldn't be released because it couldn't pass the US drop tests. I doubt that's changed 10 years later but stranger things have happened.

They..... don't do that with this Selects style of packaging.

Jeddostotle7 wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:The bottom of the box might be advertising other figures in the wave and not just/only what's in the box. From what I remember War Breakdown couldn't be released because it couldn't pass the US drop tests. I doubt that's changed 10 years later but stranger things have happened.

They..... don't do that with this Selects style of packaging.

Also the (apparent) reasoning is that Hasbro had the mold available to make but decided not to go through with it as taking out the Arms Micron ports would’ve been too costly.

https://tformers.com/transformers-sdcc- ... /news.html

http://tfu.info/2012/Decepticon/AMWarBreakdown/breakdown.htm
and from TF Wiki:

While the mold is available for Hasbro to use, its production cost is in "no man's land",[3] which stymies Hasbro's ability to put it in their normal price points. Why Hasbro elected not to make a toy of one of the show's few bad guys and left it up to Takara... we couldn't tell you.
This mold was differently redecoed/retooled each time into Swerve and Silas Breakdown; the latter was retooled further into Timelines Megatron.

Jeddostotle7 wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:The bottom of the box might be advertising other figures in the wave and not just/only what's in the box. From what I remember War Breakdown couldn't be released because it couldn't pass the US drop tests. I doubt that's changed 10 years later but stranger things have happened.

They..... don't do that with this Selects style of packaging.

Maybe it's a change? I hope it's not two Legion Class figures that due to inflation and limited production are being sold together at the Deluxe price point. Then again the box does say, Deluxe Figure not Deluxe Figures.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

Jeddostotle7 wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:The bottom of the box might be advertising other figures in the wave and not just/only what's in the box. From what I remember War Breakdown couldn't be released because it couldn't pass the US drop tests. I doubt that's changed 10 years later but stranger things have happened.

They..... don't do that with this Selects style of packaging.

Maybe it's a change? I hope it's not two Legion Class figures that due to inflation and limited production are being sold together at the Deluxe price point. Then again the box does say, Deluxe Figure not Deluxe Figures.

Where are you seeing that? I see Deluxe Class in the upper left, with no mention of figure or figures, the same way it does on the Selects Cordon and Spinout package.

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

Jeddostotle7 wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:The bottom of the box might be advertising other figures in the wave and not just/only what's in the box. From what I remember War Breakdown couldn't be released because it couldn't pass the US drop tests. I doubt that's changed 10 years later but stranger things have happened.

They..... don't do that with this Selects style of packaging.

Maybe it's a change? I hope it's not two Legion Class figures that due to inflation and limited production are being sold together at the Deluxe price point. Then again the box does say, Deluxe Figure not Deluxe Figures.

Where are you seeing that? I see Deluxe Class in the upper left, with no mention of figure or figures, the same way it does on the Selects Cordon and Spinout package.

You're right, I miss read it. It just says Deluxe Class.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:The bottom of the box might be advertising other figures in the wave and not just/only what's in the box. From what I remember War Breakdown couldn't be released because it couldn't pass the US drop tests. I doubt that's changed 10 years later but stranger things have happened.

It can't be because of the drop test. Hasbro stated that drop tests are only done for flying vehicles.

2001 Rid,Beast Machines,Unicron Trilogy and Animated,waiting for their aniversary celebration like:

What I find crazy in all this is that SOMEONE HAS THE DAMN BOX AND DIDNT TAKE PICS OF WHATS INSIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

Jeddostotle7 wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:The bottom of the box might be advertising other figures in the wave and not just/only what's in the box. From what I remember War Breakdown couldn't be released because it couldn't pass the US drop tests. I doubt that's changed 10 years later but stranger things have happened.

They..... don't do that with this Selects style of packaging.

Maybe it's a change? I hope it's not two Legion Class figures that due to inflation and limited production are being sold together at the Deluxe price point. Then again the box does say, Deluxe Figure not Deluxe Figures.

The only way I'm cool with two smaller figures, is if it's a retool/paint of battleslash and roadtrap. It won't happen but I could see a convincing breakdown out of the roadtrap mold.

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

Jeddostotle7 wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:The bottom of the box might be advertising other figures in the wave and not just/only what's in the box. From what I remember War Breakdown couldn't be released because it couldn't pass the US drop tests. I doubt that's changed 10 years later but stranger things have happened.

They..... don't do that with this Selects style of packaging.

Maybe it's a change? I hope it's not two Legion Class figures that due to inflation and limited production are being sold together at the Deluxe price point. Then again the box does say, Deluxe Figure not Deluxe Figures.

Where are you seeing that? I see Deluxe Class in the upper left, with no mention of figure or figures, the same way it does on the Selects Cordon and Spinout package.

The multilingual text in the bottom-right corner begins with "Includes figure, accessories, labels, and instructions."

That's "figure" as in singular.

I'm just gonna go with occam's razor on this one - whoever did the sticker text/graphics messed up and this is a set with two figures in it.

ScottyP wrote:I'm just gonna go with occam's razor on this one - whoever did the sticker text/graphics messed up and this is a set with two figures in it.

I just learned a new term today. Who said TFs couldn't be educational.

That said, unless they are doing some sort of weird BWU/TFP crossover, I agree, 2 figures, 1 vehicon, 1 Breakdown in the box is my guess

Sabrblade wrote:

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

Jeddostotle7 wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:The bottom of the box might be advertising other figures in the wave and not just/only what's in the box. From what I remember War Breakdown couldn't be released because it couldn't pass the US drop tests. I doubt that's changed 10 years later but stranger things have happened.

They..... don't do that with this Selects style of packaging.

Maybe it's a change? I hope it's not two Legion Class figures that due to inflation and limited production are being sold together at the Deluxe price point. Then again the box does say, Deluxe Figure not Deluxe Figures.

Where are you seeing that? I see Deluxe Class in the upper left, with no mention of figure or figures, the same way it does on the Selects Cordon and Spinout package.

The multilingual text in the bottom-right corner begins with "Includes figure, accessories, labels, and instructions."

That's "figure" as in singular.

Thanks, I couldn't make that portion out, however, the reference to labels is giving me pause. For shits and giggles I checked out all the Selects packaging, specifically the micromaster 4-pack and sure enough it is accurate, 4 figures and instructions, no reference to accessories or labels. All the others I have so far are single figures with varying numbers of accessories and the # of accessories is correct to the exact number of accessories. None came with or referenced labels.

So I'm thinking it is either 1 of 2 possibilities. 1) The text is accurate and there is only 1 figure with a set of labels to make it either War Breakdown or a Vehicon? (Which makes zero sense to me.) or 2) this is placeholder/standard verbiage that they forgot to update to be accurate and we right back where we started.

Perhaps it’s a Deluxe sized figure (Breakdown I’d wager) with a singular Micromaster (Vehicon?)? Whether it’s a retool of a preexisting mold or what is up in the air.

There's just not enough information here to make any convincing speculation. Part of me won't rule out that it's an elaborate troll. I can't imagine a single toy that would excite everyone more than one of Prime's holy grails.

william-james88 wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:The bottom of the box might be advertising other figures in the wave and not just/only what's in the box. From what I remember War Breakdown couldn't be released because it couldn't pass the US drop tests. I doubt that's changed 10 years later but stranger things have happened.

It can't be because of the drop test. Hasbro stated that drop tests are only done for flying vehicles.

Fort Max is considered a flying vehicle or is it a flying vehicle in the "teaching puppies how to fly vein?"

william-james88 wrote:What I find crazy in all this is that SOMEONE HAS THE DAMN BOX AND DIDNT TAKE PICS OF WHATS INSIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PLOT TWIST: There's nothing inside because it's something someone made up for their Graphics Designer course.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:The bottom of the box might be advertising other figures in the wave and not just/only what's in the box. From what I remember War Breakdown couldn't be released because it couldn't pass the US drop tests. I doubt that's changed 10 years later but stranger things have happened.

It can't be because of the drop test. Hasbro stated that drop tests are only done for flying vehicles.

Fort Max is considered a flying vehicle or is it a flying vehicle in the "teaching puppies how to fly vein?"

Fort Max is a starship.

Burn wrote:

william-james88 wrote:What I find crazy in all this is that SOMEONE HAS THE DAMN BOX AND DIDNT TAKE PICS OF WHATS INSIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PLOT TWIST: There's nothing inside because it's something someone made up for their Graphics Designer course.

It's probably one of those photographers that like to build up suspense, and traffic, to their sites/IG accounts and dole out the details piecemeal.

Emerje wrote:I feel like everyone is overthinking this. I'll be surprised if it isn't retooled Generations figures. Maybe Hoist/Trailbreaker for Breakdown and maybe the upcoming Tracks figure for the Vehicon. Reissues feel a little optimistic from Hasbro since it isn't G1, but I'd like to be surprised.

Emerje

Yeah, this is actually my guess as well. A retool of existing wfc mold. I am thinking of hound mold as breakdown.

Burn wrote:

william-james88 wrote:What I find crazy in all this is that SOMEONE HAS THE DAMN BOX AND DIDNT TAKE PICS OF WHATS INSIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PLOT TWIST: There's nothing inside because it's something someone made up for their Graphics Designer course.

I'm thinking it's just a mock up or package sample and there probably isn't anything in the box. That would explain some of the quirks like saying "figure" but having two names or mentioning a sticker sheet when Hasbro swore those off with PotP. It's all very odd.

Well, there's not a huge rush to move on these, they have plenty of anniversaries to celebrate thanks to have sluggish the launch was. The series started with books in 2010, the cartoon and FE toys in 2011, and the RID toy line in 2012. I think they'll be angling towards 2020/2021 both as the anniversary window.

Emerje

As someone who has owned both Versions of TFP Bee, I can say that FE Bee is superior as it lacks any spring loaded gimmicks and has less obtrusive 5mm ports