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Postby SpacerAM2 » Thu May 03, 2007 12:27 am

Classics Megatron qualifies by joining the Ringling botdroid bros. circus! :lol:
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Postby wmpyr » Thu May 03, 2007 12:35 am

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SpacerAM2 wrote:Classics Megatron qualifies by joining the Ringling botdroid bros. circus! :lol:


oh man! :oops:
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Postby wmpyr » Thu May 03, 2007 9:41 pm

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thanx for all the replies,

so can we conclude this:

this guy the way he is........... has a lot to be
desired?????

so in that case, is MP Megatron despite the many
problems in the OVERALL picture of things, still
for sure is better than nerfatron?

And furthermore, has MP Meg fallen off it's thrown?
so does that make the G1 reissue Meg the BEST OF THE BEST
of the Megatrons, esp. the recent releases?

so would you agree with this order?

1) G1 reissue Meg
2) MP Meg
3) nerfatron

or are there other Megs available right now
that are much better than nerfatron?

for example I'm not sure about this, but the
Beast Wars anniv. Meg (not the 2 pack in Toys R Us)
this version with the planet key, looks pretty good,
infact if I had to get a T-rex, or some kind of
monster that can chomp he seems WAY better than the
classics Grimlock, do you guys agree as well?
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Postby MagnusPrimal » Thu May 03, 2007 10:03 pm

Well, I like Classics Megatron better than the G1 version. I've never liked that figure. Well, let me amend that. I love the G1 toy in it's alt mode. Robot mode sucks.
I don't have MP Megatron. I don't like the look of it as much as I feel I should for the price. Plus, personally I'd rather they made him into a tank. So I put Classics Megs at the top. Between the other two, with the current prices, you may as well go with MP as #2. All imo, of course.
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Postby wmpyr » Thu May 03, 2007 10:31 pm

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MagnusPrimal wrote:Well, I like Classics Megatron better than the G1 version. I've never liked that figure. Well, let me amend that. I love the G1 toy in it's alt mode. Robot mode sucks.
I don't have MP Megatron. I don't like the look of it as much as I feel I should for the price. Plus, personally I'd rather they made him into a tank. So I put Classics Megs at the top. Between the other two, with the current prices, you may as well go with MP as #2. All imo, of course.


wow! so for you tis like this:

1) Classics Meg
2) MP Meg
3) some tank Meg, then G1 Meg??

I thought there were a lot of complaints about Classics
Meg, enough so that he would definitely NOT be #1,
but you know we all have our opinons, that's what
makes this world interesting! :)
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Postby MagnusPrimal » Fri May 04, 2007 1:39 am

wmpyr wrote:
MagnusPrimal wrote:Well, I like Classics Megatron better than the G1 version. I've never liked that figure. Well, let me amend that. I love the G1 toy in it's alt mode. Robot mode sucks.
I don't have MP Megatron. I don't like the look of it as much as I feel I should for the price. Plus, personally I'd rather they made him into a tank. So I put Classics Megs at the top. Between the other two, with the current prices, you may as well go with MP as #2. All imo, of course.


wow! so for you tis like this:

1) Classics Meg
2) MP Meg
3) some tank Meg, then G1 Meg??

I thought there were a lot of complaints about Classics
Meg, enough so that he would definitely NOT be #1,
but you know we all have our opinons, that's what
makes this world interesting! :)


Close enough!
Actually, I meant that I wished they had made Masterpiece Megatron a gun, instead of a tank. But G1 Megs (the toy) is my least-favorite Megatron. The robot mode is just not good.
I know Classics Megs isn't perfect, but for me he ranks higher because he's a better figure than G1 Megs, and a better price than MP Megs. Plus, as I said, MP Megs just looks off to me, while I expect Classics Megs to look different.
Again, all imo, thanks for respecting that!
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Postby Bonger » Fri May 04, 2007 1:51 am

wmpyr wrote:thanx for all the replies,

so can we conclude this:

this guy the way he is........... has a lot to be
desired?????

so in that case, is MP Megatron despite the many
problems in the OVERALL picture of things, still
for sure is better than nerfatron?

And furthermore, has MP Meg fallen off it's thrown?
so does that make the G1 reissue Meg the BEST OF THE BEST
of the Megatrons, esp. the recent releases?

so would you agree with this order?

1) G1 reissue Meg
2) MP Meg
3) nerfatron

or are there other Megs available right now
that are much better than nerfatron?

for example I'm not sure about this, but the
Beast Wars anniv. Meg (not the 2 pack in Toys R Us)
this version with the planet key, looks pretty good,
infact if I had to get a T-rex, or some kind of
monster that can chomp he seems WAY better than the
classics Grimlock, do you guys agree as well?


I kinda agree. The MP Megs, imo is freaking awesome. It could have been F_cking fantastic, but freaking awesome is good enough for me. For me it is a tie between MP megs and G1. MP Megs is, well, an MP. Enough said there. G1 megs is imo quite a piece of design and is imo, gorgeous. Plus it shoots, so its definately aces in my book.

Classics Megs, well, I hav found no redeeming qualities in mine yet. I wouldn't put it 3rd. Maybe WST Megs would be third for me. The Classics Megs is, well, how to put this nicely...pretty queer. The Wings, nerf dun look, colors...just doesn't do it for me.
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Postby Leonardo » Fri May 04, 2007 2:25 am

I would put Classics Megatron above G1 Megatron. The G1 robot mode is just too hideous for me! Technicaly, I would say MP Megatron is the best, but I wouldn't enjoy having him as a child simply because his size would look odd with other TF's (apart from the other MP's).

So, for me, Classics is number one, and G1 is third. I really like Energon Megatron, though.
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Postby wmpyr » Fri May 04, 2007 2:43 am

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MagnusPrimal wrote:Close enough!
Actually, I meant that I wished they had made Masterpiece Megatron a gun, instead of a tank. But G1 Megs (the toy) is my least-favorite Megatron. The robot mode is just not good.
I know Classics Megs isn't perfect, but for me he ranks higher because he's a better figure than G1 Megs, and a better price than MP Megs. Plus, as I said, MP Megs just looks off to me, while I expect Classics Megs to look different.
Again, all imo, thanks for respecting that!


actually sounds like I was quite off :P
and of course I respect your opinion! 8)
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Postby wmpyr » Fri May 04, 2007 2:51 am

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Bonger wrote:
I kinda agree. The MP Megs, imo is freaking awesome. It could have been F_cking fantastic, but freaking awesome is good enough for me. For me it is a tie between MP megs and G1. MP Megs is, well, an MP. Enough said there. G1 megs is imo quite a piece of design and is imo, gorgeous. Plus it shoots, so its definately aces in my book.

Classics Megs, well, I hav found no redeeming qualities in mine yet. I wouldn't put it 3rd. Maybe WST Megs would be third for me. The Classics Megs is, well, how to put this nicely...pretty queer. The Wings, nerf dun look, colors...just doesn't do it for me.


man after reading your posts, I have to agree with you
and say that G1 Megs (reissue) is #1. And for me, by far.
none of em come close.

And for those of you that are not getting MP Meg just
for the sole reason he is expensive, damn, that sux,
that's like being a kid again and not being able to
get the one you really want.

MP Meg is for adults. And it comes with an adult price.
I just accept Classics Meg as modern Meg for ALL consumers.
so he is generic so to speak.

really just go for the one you like for whatever reasons.
as long as the negatives don't bother you.

I no Bonger and I at first like many TF fans could not
handle the trigger crotch and that awkward bot mode,
now, its just grown on us and we admire it
even more after seeing all these interpretations.
We can say, YEP they don't make em like they use to!
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Postby wmpyr » Fri May 04, 2007 2:53 am

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Leonardo wrote:So, for me, Classics is number one, and G1 is third. I really like Energon Megatron, though.


like this?

1. Classics Meg
2. MP Meg
3. G1 Meg

where does Energon Meg fit?
and I agree he is pretty BADASS!!! Love the Tank gun!
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Postby Leonardo » Fri May 04, 2007 3:03 am

If I include Energon Megatron then he has to be #3, simply because I don't own G1 Megatron. My opinion of G1 Megatron is based solely on how he looks as a robot. As for his alt.mode, I couldn't care less. He's a gun. To me, so what? I don't like guns, I have no interest in guns, it's just a gun. Guns aren't cool or exciting. The realistic nature of the gun is superb, but I don't care for a realistic gun. I only really like Classics Megatron for his robot mode, though the deciding factor is his head sculpt!

Energon Megatron is a good, solid, fun toy. He's got a few different weapons, even his tank has two uses (three if you include the tank mode by itself) and can be attached in robot or alt. mode. His alt.mode has a nice domineering shape, his robot mode has a commanding presence, and he has little hints to G1 Megatron and G1 Galvatron.
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Postby wmpyr » Fri May 04, 2007 3:19 am

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Leonardo wrote:If I include Energon Megatron then he has to be #3, simply because I don't own G1 Megatron. My opinion of G1 Megatron is based solely on how he looks as a robot. As for his alt.mode, I couldn't care less. He's a gun. To me, so what? I don't like guns, I have no interest in guns, it's just a gun. Guns aren't cool or exciting. The realistic nature of the gun is superb, but I don't care for a realistic gun. I only really like Classics Megatron for his robot mode, though the deciding factor is his head sculpt!

Energon Megatron is a good, solid, fun toy. He's got a few different weapons, even his tank has two uses (three if you include the tank mode by itself) and can be attached in robot or alt. mode. His alt.mode has a nice domineering shape, his robot mode has a commanding presence, and he has little hints to G1 Megatron and G1 Galvatron.


I see,
on energon Meg I also like how you use the tank to form
his sword.

he seems a bit BIG for my tastes though!
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Postby Leonardo » Fri May 04, 2007 3:23 am

He is quite big, one really needs a decent Optimus to face off against him. As it stands at the moment, he's displayed next to my G1 Galvatron and isn't any taller than him (though he is wider, due to the wings). He used to be next to PM Prime and they looked fine.
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Postby wmpyr » Fri May 04, 2007 3:29 am

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Leonardo wrote:He is quite big, one really needs a decent Optimus to face off against him. As it stands at the moment, he's displayed next to my G1 Galvatron and isn't any taller than him (though he is wider, due to the wings). He used to be next to PM Prime and they looked fine.


the figure is quite menacing, he really looks like a badguy,
and this was the form that beat the snot out of
Scorponok and made him look like a cheap fembot :grin:

if you could somehow, add the swirly engraving designs
on to his chest like the G1 Meg, then I think his
"stock" would go up. :-?
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Postby Leonardo » Fri May 04, 2007 3:38 am

I'm not sure his chest is wide enough for that to work, but now you mention it, I was surprised they didn't include them on the MP Megatron.
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Postby Bonger » Fri May 04, 2007 3:42 am

Mmm, I just don't get it. I really wanted to loke Classics Megs. I have stared and stared on him for hours, will minutes, and nothing.

Maybe I am too old to apprecita Nerf Megs. :sad:
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Postby Leonardo » Fri May 04, 2007 3:46 am

I don't understand the whole Nerf comparison. Is it the colours? The colours are the only aspect I don't like.
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Postby Bonger » Fri May 04, 2007 3:49 am

The colors and the shape of the gun mode.

You know, if it actually became a real nerf gun, I probably would love it.
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Postby Leonardo » Fri May 04, 2007 3:56 am

See, I don't mind the shape. It just looks like a Cybertronian blaster. I don't see a Nerf gun at all. If it didnt have the green, purple or orange it would look better.
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Postby Bonger » Fri May 04, 2007 4:58 am

Leonardo wrote:See, I don't mind the shape. It just looks like a Cybertronian blaster. I don't see a Nerf gun at all. If it didnt have the green, purple or orange it would look better.


I don't mind the purple so much. The gren and orange just gioves it no chance with me.
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Postby wmpyr » Fri May 04, 2007 6:08 am

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gentlemen, is color that big of a deal compared to
some of the other defects?

here is a refresher:

negatives list thus far...

-no rub sign!
-safety orange
-neon green
-moth wings
-mess of a transformation (MP makes him tame though)
-shell transformer
-nerf gun
-PBC on bottom of arm
-scope is blurry
-gun form is a bit small
-eyes are not red
-scope is not secure
-what's with the purple?
-hard to balance
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Postby wmpyr » Fri May 04, 2007 6:15 am

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let me put it this way,
if you could put 1 modification to make you like
him 10x more, what would it be?

here are some ideas...

1) laser light in scope like MP
2) comes with energy morning star weapon attachment
3) actually shoots something! water/soft pills, etc.
4) shell/wings come off and form mini base like G1 OP trailer
5) has a Galvatron mask you can put on, like classics Jetfire
6) comes with a mini shockwave in gun mode he can hold
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Postby Leonardo » Fri May 04, 2007 6:26 am

wmpyr wrote:gentlemen, is color that big of a deal compared to
some of the other defects?

here is a refresher:

negatives list thus far...

-no rub sign!
-safety orange
-neon green
-moth wings
-mess of a transformation (MP makes him tame though)
-shell transformer
-nerf gun
-PBC on bottom of arm
-scope is blurry
-gun form is a bit small
-eyes are not red
-scope is not secure
-what's with the purple?
-hard to balance


Hang on, chap, a lot of those defects are to do with colour, as I've indicated!

The lack of rub sign isn't an issue for me. I don't know why that would bother anyone. It's not a necessary feature and I believe they can be ordered from ReproLabels.

Moth wings I'll give you. They don't bother me much but a lot of people have expressed dissatisfaction, and admittedly I'd prefer him without them. Following on from that, the shell former aspect is a negative, I agree. However, the "mess of a transformation" makes up for it. I like transformations to be different, which it is, and it makes the shell former aspect seem less of a cheat in some way.

Nerf gun = again, is this to do with the design? He's a spiffing futuristic gun, possibly a Cybertronian hand blaster. Why does he have to be a RL gun?

The PBC (I presume that's the fusion cannon, but what does PBC stand for?) would have been nice if it was in a different position, so I agree with that. It's not detrimental, and looks fine when turned so it's to his side.

The scope is blurry. I don't really like the scope, but then again I would never use it even if it was clear. What I don't understand is why they made it blurry, or what prevented them from making it clear, so I agree with that.

I don't think the gun is a bit small. Small for whom? What size should it be? And who said it was small?

The scope not being secure is just bizarre. It's fixed, it clicks into place, it doesn't move in either gun or robot mode. It's perfectly secure, without being tough to move when transforming.

He's not hard to balance. He stands as well as any of the other Classics or the Cybertron toys.

All the other points are related to colours, which I've already said I'm not keen on. The purple in itself, in respect of this toy only, is fine, though. It's just I wanted him to have less purple than G1 Galvatron (and anime-accurate Galvatron is too pastel-pink compared to the original toy and the cartoon).

As far as I can see, the only real gripes are the colours, the wings / shell former aspect (one is the result of the other, and even folded back, he takes up so much display space) and the PBC positioning. O, and the scope being blurry. So, for my money, that's four at best. Everything else seems like either much ado about nothing or just plain lies! Lies, I tell thee!
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Postby Bonger » Fri May 04, 2007 6:27 am

Well, mini shockwave wouldn't work as shockwave was too big for anyone to hold, well maybe a Combiner could hold him as a gun. (Cool idea)

But yes, I agree, actually shooting something, correct placement of the cannon, a more menacing color scheme, removable wings and then we'd be talking!
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