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[Skritz]

Magnus has ties to the Wreckers in the Marvel UK timeline, which formed the basis for his association with the group later on.

[Dannshinigami]

Im more interested in the hover mode Prime has, is there any thing to back this up?

Also kinda glad there is no hammer as I always thought it was a strange addition to his character.

[william-james88]

Magnus has ties to the Wreckers in the Marvel UK timeline, which formed the basis for his association with the group later on.

Thanks guys, i was unaware of that.

[Nemesis Primal]

Magnus has ties to the Wreckers in the Marvel UK timeline, which formed the basis for his association with the group later on.

Thanks guys, i was unaware of that.

Also Magnus ferried the Wreckers to Garrus-9 in his ship in Last Stand, before dropping them off and pretending he didn't know how many bots they were about to kill. He kinda served as counsel for Springer in those first two parts, conferring with him about Impactor's return and Ironfist's condition, so there's that. Granted, they did that partly because of his involvement in the Marvel UK comic, but it still happened.

Although he wasn't involved in any of the combat in that series, so that doesn't really help connect 'Magnus Hammer' with 'Wreckers', it just connects Magnus himself with them.

[Skritz]

Now if we could some Triggerbots and Triggercons in Siege or future lines it would be great, as their gun themed gimmick would be decently approximated with the C.O.M.B.A.T. stuff, plus Third Party have shown Crankcase and Ironfist can work as a singular mold (or maybe as a Hound retool?).

[ZeroWolf]

There was a fun nod to his hammer in the arc which dealt with flashbacks to megatrons trial, as when the cons attacked, um grabbed a hammer off a statue and started swinging away. Its a new and welcome addition to the character for me also after seeing ironhide coged up, it made me realise I may need a lot of duplicates for the weaponisers...also I wonder who'll be the con equivalent

[Jelze Bunnycat]

There was a fun nod to his hammer in the arc which dealt with flashbacks to megatrons trial, as when the cons attacked, um grabbed a hammer off a statue and started swinging away. Its a new and welcome addition to the character for me also after seeing ironhide coged up, it made me realise I may need a lot of duplicates for the weaponisers...also I wonder who'll be the con equivalent

Brunt for Trypticon, and Fasttrack for Scorponok *nudge nudge, wink wink*

[Emerje]

Oh yeah, something that I don't think has gotten enough attention, Leader UM is going to be only a little taller than a Voyager.



8" to the top of his shoulders puts him at around 7.5" head height. Most Leaders tend be over 9", sometimes hovering just under 10". On the bright side that means the inner Magnus should be the same size as Voyager Prime. So they weren't all talk when they said bot scale matters this time around. What he loses in size he makes up for in complexity and part count and I'm OK with that.

Emerje

[Autobot N]

Oh yeah, something that I don't think has gotten enough attention, Leader UM is going to be only a little taller than a Voyager.



8" to the top of his shoulders puts him at around 7.5" head height. Most Leaders tend be over 9", sometimes hovering just under 10". On the bright side that means the inner Magnus should be the same size as Voyager Prime. So they weren't all talk when they said bot scale matters this time around. What he loses in size he makes up for in complexity and part count and I'm OK with that.

Emerje

I wonder what this means for Leader Shockwave...

[Emerje]

I wonder what this means for Leader Shockwave...

Would they dare do a figures that's a little bigger than a Voyager... with lights and sounds?

Naaaah... Or would they?

Emerje

[Sentinel_Primal]

I wonder what this means for Leader Shockwave...

Would they dare do a figures that's a little bigger than a Voyager... with lights and sounds?

Naaaah... Or would they?

Emerje

Hm... Interesting idea, and if they are downsizing the Leader class figures (which I'm all for, never did care for the size because it always felt too big to me) and adding some extra pieces, maybe they're using the extra budget for other gimmicks to come back like the lights and sounds. Personally though, I'd love if they did a Shockwave that was slightly modular were he could replace parts of himself to give himself different vehicle modes with the base being a laser cannon. Like, switch out his arms and legs and he can become a tank with a massive turret, or maybe give him a spider tank like his Cyberverse self. Or even, dare I dream, give him shorter arms, legs, and, a new head and you can get a deluxe class Longarm! Who turns into a slightly smaller laser cannon because... Reasons . Doubt my silly idea for Shockwave being modular would be a thing, especially cause it's definitely not G1, but I'm all for older gimmicks coming back

[Sabrblade]

Why wreckers fans?

Because he’s usually always affiliated with them.

Really? I cover lots of fiction, being staff for this site, and the only time I saw him associated to them was in Prime.

There may be another instance but i highly doubt its a usual affiliation. Definitely not in the G1 lore i am familiar with.

Just about every noteworthy iteration of the Wreckers has had ties to Ultra Magnus, with the BotCon Beast Era Wreckers and the DOTM Wreckers being the most notable exceptions.

The very first version of the Wreckers, from the Marvel UK comics, saw Ultra Magnus as not a member of the Wreckers but as a very close associate of them, as he was to have been their secret weapon in a carefully laid out plan called Operation: Volcano. But when he was called away to Earth on a mission of great urgency (investigating the sudden disappearance of Optimus Prime), Operation: Volcano had to proceed without him, with the Autobot Triple Changers Springer, Sandstorm, and Broadside teaming up with the Wreckers in his place, andd officially joining the team shortly afterward, following the death of the Wreckers' leader Impactor, whom Springer succeeded as the team's new leader. Magnus continued to work alongside the Wreckers during several later missions as well, though, never actually being a part of their unit.



In the present day setting of the Dreamwave comics, Ultra Magnus was officially the leader of the Wreckers, having succeeded Springer after the Triple Changers had left the group at some point prior. We'll never know anything more about their having left the Wreckers due to Dreamwave having folded back when it did.



In IDW's comics, though Magnus again wasn't a member (like in the Marvel UK comics), he did provide them transport for them both to and from Garrus-9, a decision likely made by Roberts and Milne as a tribute to his close relation to the team as seen back in Marvel UK.



In the media brought to life via the Binder of Revelation, Ultra Magnus is officially the leader of the Wreckers, just like his Dreamwave G1 counterpart. The Exodus novel even establishes him as owning a hammer as his personal weapon, while the Prime cartoon would instead depict him as hammerless following his arrival on Earth and using the energy-drained Forge of Solus Prime as a new hammer weapon for himself.



And, heh, while not a notable version, Angry Birds Transformers had its version of the Wreckers including Ultra Magnus.

[leokearon]

Why wreckers fans?

Rack N' Ruin?

[Ultra Markus]

well if they do the wreckers team, would we see new versions of the team members

[Skritz]

well if they do the wreckers team, would we see new versions of the team members

Well there have been rumours of a new Roadbuster and Whirl but even if those prove untrue we would still have a mostly-complete Wrecker lineup if we go back to T30 and TR as these had Roadbuster, Whirl, Springer, Sandstorm, Broadside and the Jumpstarter brothers. Meaning that the only guys left at this point are Rack & Ruin and Impactor. And we know Impactor is coming.

[Dannshinigami]

Sod the Wreakers I want the Elite Guard

[leokearon]

well if they do the wreckers team, would we see new versions of the team members

Well there have been rumours of a new Roadbuster and Whirl but even if those prove untrue we would still have a mostly-complete Wrecker lineup if we go back to T30 and TR as these had Roadbuster, Whirl, Springer, Sandstorm, Broadside and the Jumpstarter brothers. Meaning that the only guys left at this point are Rack & Ruin and Impactor. And we know Impactor is coming.

Yeah, with Impactor coing Rack N' Ruin are the only ones left.


My Digibash version using the Cloudraker mold

[leokearon]

Sod the Wreakers I want the Elite Guard

But the elite guard don't have a nearly-consistent line-up unlike the Wreckers

[AllNewSuperRobot]

Brunt for Trypticon, and Fasttrack for Scorponok *nudge nudge, wink wink*

I currently have 3 out of 4 Modern City Bots... All of the fingers are crossed for a new (and in scale) Scorponok. The only City Bot with three decent modes.

[Nemesis Primal]

well if they do the wreckers team, would we see new versions of the team members

Well there have been rumours of a new Roadbuster and Whirl but even if those prove untrue we would still have a mostly-complete Wrecker lineup if we go back to T30 and TR as these had Roadbuster, Whirl, Springer, Sandstorm, Broadside and the Jumpstarter brothers. Meaning that the only guys left at this point are Rack & Ruin and Impactor. And we know Impactor is coming.

Yeah, with Impactor coing Rack N' Ruin are the only ones left.


My Digibash version using the Cloudraker mold

I feel like saying that we only have those three(?) left is kinda subjective, and depends on who you consider to be the full Wreckers lineup. I would still argue that we're missing Ironfist, Guzzle, Rotorstorm, and Leadfoot, for example. Maybe they could make a Leadfoot from the Mirage mold...

Also, as cool as that digibash is, aren't they supposed to be conjoined, and what would they turn into?

[AllNewSuperRobot]

Also, as cool as that digibash is, aren't they supposed to be conjoined, and what would they turn into?

I thought that. Aren't they (technically) a Duocon?

[Sabrblade]

Also, as cool as that digibash is, aren't they supposed to be conjoined, and what would they turn into?

I thought that. Aren't they (technically) a Duocon?

Rack'n'Ruin never transformed in the original Marvel UK comics, and were permanently stuck together is said comics. According to the origin given for them in the "Transformers: The Facts" booklet that came included with the 200th Marvel UK issue, they used to turn into Cybertronian mini-jets, but their being surgically joined together in an desperate operation that saved their lives made transformation impossible for them to do anymore.

[Jelze Bunnycat]

Also, as cool as that digibash is, aren't they supposed to be conjoined, and what would they turn into?

I thought that. Aren't they (technically) a Duocon?

Rack'n'Ruin never transformed in the original Marvel UK comics, and were permanently stuck together is said comics. According to the origin given for them in the "Transformers: The Facts" booklet that came included with the 200th Marvel UK issue, they used to turn into Cybertronian mini-jets, but their being surgically joined together in an desperate operation that saved their lives made transformation impossible for them to do anymore.

Would that make them the first Action Masters?

[Sabrblade]

Also, as cool as that digibash is, aren't they supposed to be conjoined, and what would they turn into?

I thought that. Aren't they (technically) a Duocon?

Rack'n'Ruin never transformed in the original Marvel UK comics, and were permanently stuck together is said comics. According to the origin given for them in the "Transformers: The Facts" booklet that came included with the 200th Marvel UK issue, they used to turn into Cybertronian mini-jets, but their being surgically joined together in an desperate operation that saved their lives made transformation impossible for them to do anymore.

Would that make them the first Action Masters?

Emirate Xaaron might be an earlier contender for that.

[Jelze Bunnycat]

Also, as cool as that digibash is, aren't they supposed to be conjoined, and what would they turn into?

I thought that. Aren't they (technically) a Duocon?

Rack'n'Ruin never transformed in the original Marvel UK comics, and were permanently stuck together is said comics. According to the origin given for them in the "Transformers: The Facts" booklet that came included with the 200th Marvel UK issue, they used to turn into Cybertronian mini-jets, but their being surgically joined together in an desperate operation that saved their lives made transformation impossible for them to do anymore.

Would that make them the first Action Masters?

Emirate Xaaron might be an earlier contender for that.

He still had the ability, except it would kill him if he did.