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Alex Kingdom wrote:

Tramp wrote:he has one of the best rapports with the military in Hollywood because he protrays them realistically and, most importantly to them, in a favorable light.

I don't know if I agree with the former but I certainly agree with the later. To portray something realistically you should show the bad with the good, I found Bays portayal of the US Military rather onesided.

Yours AK

JazZeke wrote:

Tramp wrote:

Sonray wrote:

Auto Bot wrote:Since many of you seen mr glasses die in the same way, that's enough to convince me that i should be wrong.

I may miss some details. Or the cinema may have cut out those short scenes. Dam cinema!

Anyway, several pairs of eyes can't be wrong.

I am mainly convinced the guy with the glasses died (as i have only seen the movie once) because these scene really stuck out for me. Usually the black guy always dies first, and i distinctly rembered the guy with the glasses due to his comical response to the radio tower falling over behind him.

So when i saw him killed by scorpie, by being impaled, i was like "WOAH! The black guy didnt die first for once, but instead it was the nerdy looking white guy!"

Exactly. What's really interesting is the the "black guy" doesn't get killed at all. He survives the entire movie. The ones who got killed were the guys played by real-life Navy SEALs.

Instead, they killed the black Transformer.

vectorA3 wrote:The movie did need a lot of military involvement, and if you think about it it makes sense to use real military vehicles, bunkers, aircraft and such, because it looks real for one and saves money rather than using all CGI or making or dressing up prop replica vehicles and aircraft. However, I'm sure the stuff they blew up was fake.
Glasses guy's name is Zack Ward. He's a really nice guy, I met him on a music video a long while back. He has RED hair, not blonde and he did die from the Scorpy attack. If I remember right, they went to check up on him, he uttered some last words and died or he was already dead.
I don't see why Bay pussed out on including Arcee. They could've had her protoform come down and scan a motorcycle, not much explanation needed. I think it would've been awesome for her and Josh Duhamel's character to take out Brawl (i think?) with that slide and shoot manuever. Terminator 3 had a wicked female robot (albeit a cyborg) so no excuses Bay.

syphonn wrote:The hacker plot was forced, I'm sure on any Government installation (much like most of corporate America) they have group policies in active directory to disable removable storage devices similar to the one the girl used to take information off-site to prevent exactly that type of thing from happening. Having Anthony Anderson figure it out didnt advance the story in anyway, this could have easily been done by one of the trained experts working there and achieve the same end result.

JazZeke wrote:Plus, how did the FBI know where Maggie took the storage disk anyway?

Leonardo wrote:

JazZeke wrote:Plus, how did the FBI know where Maggie took the storage disk anyway?

I'd still like to know how anyone knew that Megatron's guidance system had burnt a map to the Allspark on Captain Witwicky's spectacles.

Autobot032 wrote:*sighs*

The guy with the glasses: DEAD. (Scenes were cut down to secure a PG-13 rating.)

Fig (Hispanic): DEAD. (Mortally wounded during Scorponok's attack on the village, died on the Evac. We see a part of this scene in the trailers and commercials where Lennox is holding his hand on the plane. Cut for the PG-13 rating.)

Bonecrusher destroying the bus, and the people on it: DEAD. (There were people on the bus, otherwise he'd have never attacked it. 1.) He threw cars with his claw, and people were in them at the time. 2.) If nothing else, the bus driver was on the bus, therefore he did kill at least one person on the bus, but you know full well that the bus was full of people. Quit deluding yourselves. Don't be stupid, use common sense and figure it out. Because he killed so many people...Prime got pissed. Prime yanked out his sword and decapitated Bonecrusher for it.)

*cries* just watch the damn movie or look at stills and you'll see. If you can't figure it out from that simple act, then you're oblivious to facts right in front of your face and you shouldn't be operating a vehicle or other heavy machinery.

EDIT: BTW...here's a simple fact all of you seem to be missing. Of course there were people on the bus (at least the driver) and in the cars...THE CARS WERE F*CKING MOVING ON THE HIGHWAY! THEY DON'T DRIVE THEMSELVES! OF COURSE THERE WERE NO PEOPLE IN THE VEHICLES WHEN THEY FILMED IT BECAUSE IT WAS A STUNT AND PEOPLE WOULD'VE BEEN KILLED! FACT REMAINS THAT ON PAPER AND IN THE STORY....PEOPLE WERE IN THE VEHICLES! EVEN IF THERE WASN'T A SINGLE ACTOR OR STUNT PERSON DURING THE FILMING! THEY'RE NOT GOING TO KILL PEOPLE SO YOU CAN HAVE A BETTER SENSE OF REALISM!

WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE?! OPEN YOUR FRIGGIN' EYES! IT'S COMMON SENSE!!!!


AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!

syphonn wrote:The same way Witwicky looked into Megartron's eyes and saw the future ... by magic

Leonardo wrote:

JazZeke wrote:Plus, how did the FBI know where Maggie took the storage disk anyway?

I'd still like to know how anyone knew that Megatron's guidance system had burnt a map to the Allspark on Captain Witwicky's spectacles.

JazZeke wrote:

syphonn wrote:The same way Witwicky looked into Megartron's eyes and saw the future ... by magic

Leonardo wrote:

JazZeke wrote:Plus, how did the FBI know where Maggie took the storage disk anyway?

I'd still like to know how anyone knew that Megatron's guidance system had burnt a map to the Allspark on Captain Witwicky's spectacles.

The Tfs could see the Cybertronian engravings in the glass. I think the more valid question is: Why didn't any of the dozens of humans who probably handled them over the last century notice such engravings?

JazZeke wrote:

syphonn wrote:The same way Witwicky looked into Megartron's eyes and saw the future ... by magic

Leonardo wrote:

JazZeke wrote:Plus, how did the FBI know where Maggie took the storage disk anyway?

I'd still like to know how anyone knew that Megatron's guidance system had burnt a map to the Allspark on Captain Witwicky's spectacles.

The Tfs could see the Cybertronian engravings in the glass. I think the more valid question is: Why didn't any of the dozens of humans who probably handled them over the last century notice such engravings?

syphonn wrote:The hacker plot was forced, I'm sure on any Government installation (much like most of corporate America) they have group policies in active directory to disable removable storage devices similar to the one the girl used to take information off-site to prevent exactly that type of thing from happening. Having Anthony Anderson figure it out didnt advance the story in anyway, this could have easily been done by one of the trained experts working there and achieve the same end result. Also it is hard to believe that sector seven could have existed for so long in secret with agents like that running it or working for it ... and to believe they are the ones that reverse engineered megatron to create the technological marvels that we enjoy today, but are unable to work a shortwave radio is a bit much to ask. Consistency, this movie lacks it.

Sonray wrote:

JazZeke wrote:

syphonn wrote:The same way Witwicky looked into Megartron's eyes and saw the future ... by magic

Leonardo wrote:

JazZeke wrote:Plus, how did the FBI know where Maggie took the storage disk anyway?

I'd still like to know how anyone knew that Megatron's guidance system had burnt a map to the Allspark on Captain Witwicky's spectacles.

The Tfs could see the Cybertronian engravings in the glass. I think the more valid question is: Why didn't any of the dozens of humans who probably handled them over the last century notice such engravings?

The engravings are only visible to autobots, naked human eyes cant see them.

As for how they knew they was on there....that is indeed a mystery.

Tramp wrote:Well, they did have a ship, they just didn't land it. It remained somewhere in orbit, possibly on the dark side of the moon. They simply use their protoforms' re-entry modes for entry into a planet's atmoshphere. The prequel novel specifically mentions their ship, and its name. Unfortunately, I don't know what that name is.

Nemesis Cyberplex wrote:

Tramp wrote:Well, they did have a ship, they just didn't land it. It remained somewhere in orbit, possibly on the dark side of the moon. They simply use their protoforms' re-entry modes for entry into a planet's atmoshphere. The prequel novel specifically mentions their ship, and its name. Unfortunately, I don't know what that name is.

Yeah, but how many people that see the movie would be reading the prequel novel?

Damolisher wrote:Only on a place as nutty as Seibertron could a topic about urinating get to 16 pages.

Gotta love these crazy, crazy Transfans.

Tramp wrote:

Nemesis Cyberplex wrote:

Tramp wrote:Well, they did have a ship, they just didn't land it. It remained somewhere in orbit, possibly on the dark side of the moon. They simply use their protoforms' re-entry modes for entry into a planet's atmoshphere. The prequel novel specifically mentions their ship, and its name. Unfortunately, I don't know what that name is.

Yeah, but how many people that see the movie would be reading the prequel novel?

Anyone who liked the movie enough to want more. Probably a lot of people.

Autobot032 wrote:*sighs*

The guy with the glasses: DEAD. (Scenes were cut down to secure a PG-13 rating.)

Fig (Hispanic): DEAD. (Mortally wounded during Scorponok's attack on the village, died on the Evac. We see a part of this scene in the trailers and commercials where Lennox is holding his hand on the plane. Cut for the PG-13 rating.)

Bonecrusher destroying the bus, and the people on it: DEAD. (There were people on the bus, otherwise he'd have never attacked it. 1.) He threw cars with his claw, and people were in them at the time. 2.) If nothing else, the bus driver was on the bus, therefore he did kill at least one person on the bus, but you know full well that the bus was full of people. Quit deluding yourselves. Don't be stupid, use common sense and figure it out. Because he killed so many people...Prime got pissed. Prime yanked out his sword and decapitated Bonecrusher for it.)

*cries* just watch the damn movie or look at stills and you'll see. If you can't figure it out from that simple act, then you're oblivious to facts right in front of your face and you shouldn't be operating a vehicle or other heavy machinery.

EDIT: BTW...here's a simple fact all of you seem to be missing. Of course there were people on the bus (at least the driver) and in the cars...THE CARS WERE F*CKING MOVING ON THE HIGHWAY! THEY DON'T DRIVE THEMSELVES! OF COURSE THERE WERE NO PEOPLE IN THE VEHICLES WHEN THEY FILMED IT BECAUSE IT WAS A STUNT AND PEOPLE WOULD'VE BEEN KILLED! FACT REMAINS THAT ON PAPER AND IN THE STORY....PEOPLE WERE IN THE VEHICLES! EVEN IF THERE WASN'T A SINGLE ACTOR OR STUNT PERSON DURING THE FILMING! THEY'RE NOT GOING TO KILL PEOPLE SO YOU CAN HAVE A BETTER SENSE OF REALISM!

WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE?! OPEN YOUR FRIGGIN' EYES! IT'S COMMON SENSE!!!!


AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!

JazZeke wrote:

syphonn wrote:The hacker plot w

Plus, how did the FBI know where Maggie took the storage disk anyway?

Sid Burn wrote:

Autobot032 wrote:*sighs*

The guy with the glasses: DEAD. (Scenes were cut down to secure a PG-13 rating.)

Fig (Hispanic): DEAD. (Mortally wounded during Scorponok's attack on the village, died on the Evac. We see a part of this scene in the trailers and commercials where Lennox is holding his hand on the plane. Cut for the PG-13 rating.)

Bonecrusher destroying the bus, and the people on it: DEAD. (There were people on the bus, otherwise he'd have never attacked it. 1.) He threw cars with his claw, and people were in them at the time. 2.) If nothing else, the bus driver was on the bus, therefore he did kill at least one person on the bus, but you know full well that the bus was full of people. Quit deluding yourselves. Don't be stupid, use common sense and figure it out. Because he killed so many people...Prime got pissed. Prime yanked out his sword and decapitated Bonecrusher for it.)

*cries* just watch the damn movie or look at stills and you'll see. If you can't figure it out from that simple act, then you're oblivious to facts right in front of your face and you shouldn't be operating a vehicle or other heavy machinery.

EDIT: BTW...here's a simple fact all of you seem to be missing. Of course there were people on the bus (at least the driver) and in the cars...THE CARS WERE F*CKING MOVING ON THE HIGHWAY! THEY DON'T DRIVE THEMSELVES! OF COURSE THERE WERE NO PEOPLE IN THE VEHICLES WHEN THEY FILMED IT BECAUSE IT WAS A STUNT AND PEOPLE WOULD'VE BEEN KILLED! FACT REMAINS THAT ON PAPER AND IN THE STORY....PEOPLE WERE IN THE VEHICLES! EVEN IF THERE WASN'T A SINGLE ACTOR OR STUNT PERSON DURING THE FILMING! THEY'RE NOT GOING TO KILL PEOPLE SO YOU CAN HAVE A BETTER SENSE OF REALISM!

WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE?! OPEN YOUR FRIGGIN' EYES! IT'S COMMON SENSE!!!!


AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!

QFT but I think you are preaching to a congregation without ears Autobot032

These posters seem quite happy to debate minutia for 20 pages. This is why collectors get satired in movies and television so much, fans rabidly debating minutia until the actual meaning is lost.