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-Kanrabat- wrote:

sol magnus wrote:

william-james88 wrote:I really like Megatron, probable my favourite release of the ones I have

While he's talking about Series 2, Megatron is pretty good. I would probably agree he's the best...mmm except there's Jetfire. LOL. He's the best.

It's all a matter of opinions, but IMO, a straight repaint can't ever be a "best". To earn that title, some remolding and/or extra parts are a necessity. Like for Megatron, Blurr, Ultra Magnus, Starscream, and that's it I think.

I agree with that in general, but what in Shattered Glass would not be that?

sol magnus wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

sol magnus wrote:

william-james88 wrote:I really like Megatron, probable my favourite release of the ones I have

While he's talking about Series 2, Megatron is pretty good. I would probably agree he's the best...mmm except there's Jetfire. LOL. He's the best.

It's all a matter of opinions, but IMO, a straight repaint can't ever be a "best". To earn that title, some remolding and/or extra parts are a necessity. Like for Megatron, Blurr, Ultra Magnus, Starscream, and that's it I think.

I agree with that in general, but what in Shattered Glass would not be that?

Well, Jetfire is a straight repaint, as well as Goldbug... Unless that new head appeared for the first time there. Also, Soundwave and Blaster are straight repaints.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

sol magnus wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

sol magnus wrote:

william-james88 wrote:I really like Megatron, probable my favourite release of the ones I have

While he's talking about Series 2, Megatron is pretty good. I would probably agree he's the best...mmm except there's Jetfire. LOL. He's the best.

It's all a matter of opinions, but IMO, a straight repaint can't ever be a "best". To earn that title, some remolding and/or extra parts are a necessity. Like for Megatron, Blurr, Ultra Magnus, Starscream, and that's it I think.

I agree with that in general, but what in Shattered Glass would not be that?

Well, Jetfire is a straight repaint, as well as Goldbug... Unless that new head appeared for the first time there. Also, Soundwave and Blaster are straight repaints.

Other than heads, they're all straight repaints. Soundwave has a new head. When talking about an all repaint line (with maybe a new head...like Goldbug and Blurr) in SG 1 I think we're all talking about overall aesthetic. In my case with Jetfire, of SG 1 I subjectively like him a tad better than Megatron. Starscream is also pretty awesome although I still fear he'll yellow.

We're all acknowledging they're repaints and saying the best of those. I'm (we're) not comparing them to non-SG counterparts. Unless we are. LOL

Speaking of that Starscream, some yellowing has already been reported.

-Kanrabat- wrote:Speaking of that Starscream, some yellowing has already been reported.

Yes, I even know some guys with yellowed ones. Neither my Starscream or Soundwave have yellowed. Yet.

I think it's temperature based. Not enough data to prove it, though.

sol magnus wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:Speaking of that Starscream, some yellowing has already been reported.

Yes, I even know some guys with yellowed ones. Neither my Starscream or Soundwave have yellowed. Yet.

I think it's temperature based. Not enough data to prove it, though.

I've been wondering if it's temperature based as well

Razorbeast88 wrote:

sol magnus wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:Speaking of that Starscream, some yellowing has already been reported.

Yes, I even know some guys with yellowed ones. Neither my Starscream or Soundwave have yellowed. Yet.

I think it's temperature based. Not enough data to prove it, though.

I've been wondering if it's temperature based as well

To clarify some things for the newcomers: the "traditional" yellowing occurs on the hard ABS plastic, supposedly mainly after long term exposure to UV light, typically years. The yellowing we're seeing now isn't that, rather it occurs on the softer POM and PA parts found in joints and other moving parts.


I wouldn't think temperature plays that much of a role here, unless we're seeing a significant large amount of cases in the warmer climates like the Mediterranean and the South of the US, but rather I dare say it's similar to Gold Plastic Syndrome in that a change in the composition (like adding metal flake in the case of GPS) has unexpected negative outcomes.

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:

Razorbeast88 wrote:

sol magnus wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:Speaking of that Starscream, some yellowing has already been reported.

Yes, I even know some guys with yellowed ones. Neither my Starscream or Soundwave have yellowed. Yet.

I think it's temperature based. Not enough data to prove it, though.

I've been wondering if it's temperature based as well

To clarify some things for the newcomers: the "traditional" yellowing occurs on the hard ABS plastic, supposedly mainly after long term exposure to UV light, typically years. The yellowing we're seeing now isn't that, rather it occurs on the softer POM and PA parts found in joints and other moving parts.


I wouldn't think temperature plays that much of a role here, unless we're seeing a significant large amount of cases in the warmer climates like the Mediterranean and the South of the US, but rather I dare say it's similar to Gold Plastic Syndrome in that a change in the composition (like adding metal flake in the case of GPS) has unexpected negative outcomes.

In that recent Q&A Hasbro claimed they haven't made any changes to their plastic. I think it has more to do with the current factory, feels like we started noticing quicker yellowing since the last time they changed locations.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:

Razorbeast88 wrote:

sol magnus wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:Speaking of that Starscream, some yellowing has already been reported.

Yes, I even know some guys with yellowed ones. Neither my Starscream or Soundwave have yellowed. Yet.

I think it's temperature based. Not enough data to prove it, though.

I've been wondering if it's temperature based as well

To clarify some things for the newcomers: the "traditional" yellowing occurs on the hard ABS plastic, supposedly mainly after long term exposure to UV light, typically years. The yellowing we're seeing now isn't that, rather it occurs on the softer POM and PA parts found in joints and other moving parts.


I wouldn't think temperature plays that much of a role here, unless we're seeing a significant large amount of cases in the warmer climates like the Mediterranean and the South of the US, but rather I dare say it's similar to Gold Plastic Syndrome in that a change in the composition (like adding metal flake in the case of GPS) has unexpected negative outcomes.

In that recent Q&A Hasbro claimed they haven't made any changes to their plastic. I think it has more to do with the current factory, feels like we started noticing quicker yellowing since the last time they changed locations.

Emerje

Whether they admit, or even know, something has changed. I'm not sure if its a new factory and their mix or conditions or what. This yellowing has happened on way too many figures recently to be coincidence. Cyclonus, Soundwave, SG Starscream and Motormaster all have had significant yellowing right out of the box in many cases. It is bad enough that need to look into it, quickly. I just hope that Victory Saber doesnt have this problem.

Greetings All, I've added the Fireglide Battle Master (from SG Flamewar) to my want list. Even at 20% off with "Seasons Savings", it would still be over $40 after shipping. No Deluxe+BM is worth that.

However, if any of you who own Flamewar are wanting to recoup a bit of the cost and part with Fireglide, please PM me. Thank you.

Since there was some more SG collection discussion, I think I am going to rank the 10 figures from the collection.

1) Slicer - For one thing, his colors totally own his base mold. For another, Exo-suit was a fantastic addition, and there is a ton of good play features with that. He is just very fun and a great package. It also helps that ultimately he was the best character in the SG comics, a great character. I got a 2nd one of him today for the standard con shelf, he's worth getting 2 of.

2) Ultra Magnus - This one surprised me, he is exceptional in the color scheme he uses, and the skeleton head is fantastic. He just rules, and the sword weapon adds a lot for him. His character in the comics was also real good, if in need of more actual fiction dedicated to him. Really good figure, there is a reason I am glad I got 2.

3) Jetfire - This one rules because of the color scheme. That black, purple, and green just shines on him so much. He makes standard Jetfire look so bland. Add how big he is with the colors and color distribution, and you have a real winner there. And he was also great in the comic, maybe the 2nd best after Slicer.

4) Megatron - the new parts added to this figure adds a new silhouette and makes him a lot of fun with all the play features. The colors are also really nice, and rounds out a nice package.

5) Starscream - Again, a great mold, and the colors shine so brightly on this mold. The new sword weapons are also great additions, make him feel like a totally new dude. Well done there.

6) Soundwave - This is another great package, if overpriced. The colors are sharp, the minions are cool, and that headband is a great look for him. They managed to make that work out real well with him. Well done.

7) Flamewar - They did good on her with the paint work, and the addition of Fireglide was nice too. She is a good package. I think she ranks behind the others just because of how much more their colors shine and the new tooling most of them used as well.

8,) Blaster - One where he is a solid mold, as is Rewind, but he's just boring. He doesn't bring a lot to the table. So he's good, but not necessarily cool.

9) Blurr - as much as I love the head sculpt on this guy, his QC really lets him down. The leg joints, the arm sleeves, they just make him not a very fun figure to handle in comparison to the rest. The headsculpt is killer though.

10) Goldbug - This one ranks the lowest simply because he was the most boring release. He really should have used a different mold, like the Runamuck mold if we wanted size, or SS86 Hot Rod to homage his original form more. There was more he should have been compared to what he was.

I think Goldbug got the mold he got so Hasbro can get as much use out of the body as possible. But I suppose the same can be said for the Battlechargers mold. That only got 2 uses, while the SG GB mold was used 5 times, I think? 2 versions of Cliffy and 3 versions of Bee/Bug.

As for using SS86 Hot Rod, his transformation is so screen- and character-specific, it wouldn't have been worth it to alter the mold and the engineering to make him different enough. Unless you would have been fine with Goldbug having the same transformation.

Rodimus Prime wrote:while the SG GB mold was used 5 times, I think? 2 versions of Cliffy and 3 versions of Bee/Bug.

At this point we're up to 8 total uses of the mold:
-ER Cliff
-Selects Hubcap
-Selects Bugbite
-Netflix Bee
-SG Goldbug
-Buzzworthy Worlds Collide Bee
-Buzzworthy SS86 Cliff
-Buzzworthy Creatures Collide Goldbug

Rodimus Prime wrote:As for using SS86 Hot Rod, his transformation is so screen- and character-specific, it wouldn't have been worth it to alter the mold and the engineering to make him different enough. Unless you would have been fine with Goldbug having the same transformation.

Maybe they also didn't use Hot Rod for Goldbug to keep the mold open to use for an SG Rodimus? He should use the Hot Rod mold rather than the Rodimus mold if he does get made, since SG Rod needs the saw and typically hasn't had the Rodimus trailer.

Nemesis Primal wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:while the SG GB mold was used 5 times, I think? 2 versions of Cliffy and 3 versions of Bee/Bug.

At this point we're up to 8 total uses of the mold:
-ER Cliff
-Selects Hubcap
-Selects Bugbite
-Netflix Bee
-SG Goldbug
-Buzzworthy Worlds Collide Bee
-Buzzworthy SS86 Cliff
-Buzzworthy Creatures Collide Goldbug

I didn't count the figures that use the VW body, just the other ones. Technically, they're not the same.

Rodimus Prime wrote:As for using SS86 Hot Rod, his transformation is so screen- and character-specific, it wouldn't have been worth it to alter the mold and the engineering to make him different enough. Unless you would have been fine with Goldbug having the same transformation.

Maybe they also didn't use Hot Rod for Goldbug to keep the mold open to use for an SG Rodimus? He should use the Hot Rod mold rather than the Rodimus mold if he does get made, since SG Rod needs the saw and typically hasn't had the Rodimus trailer.

SG Rodimus is a good point. If I had my choice, I would want LL Rodimus, though. I love that black/teal combo. Also, we're getting that mold in toy colors as well, so maybe Hasbro didn't think most people would buy that mold a 3rd time, especially at voyager price.

I think I have to agree with Slicer at number one. The color and accessories really make that mold feel fresh.

Rodimus Prime wrote:I think Goldbug got the mold he got so Hasbro can get as much use out of the body as possible. But I suppose the same can be said for the Battlechargers mold. That only got 2 uses, while the SG GB mold was used 5 times, I think? 2 versions of Cliffy and 3 versions of Bee/Bug.

As for using SS86 Hot Rod, his transformation is so screen- and character-specific, it wouldn't have been worth it to alter the mold and the engineering to make him different enough. Unless you would have been fine with Goldbug having the same transformation.

Considering how many uses of that mold there have been between original mold and retools, I think they got their money's worth.

And Goldbug was originally based on Cybertron Hot Shot, who was based on G1 Hot Rod, and the SS86 toy pretty much uses the same Cybertron transformation scheme down to the fake chest, so i really don't see why they could not have used that mold. I'd prefer the Kingdom leader for SG Rodimus anyways

Took advantage of the Pulse sale, got a 2nd Slicer. This one will be for the G1 con group. This release was so good, I have no problem owning it twice.

That car mode wears those colors really well. Wheeljack is crouched in the corner crying with shame.

Rodimus Prime wrote:That car mode wears those colors really well. Wheeljack is crouched in the corner crying with shame.

He is, Slicer is so much better.

I forgot -

Surprised no one has mentioned that SG Leader Grimlock is supposedly in that group of recently leaked ID Numbers.

Gearslide wrote:Surprised no one has mentioned that SG Leader Grimlock is supposedly in that group of recently leaked ID Numbers.

Oh, it's been mentioned, just not in here.

I ordered SG Magnus from AliExpress. It's too soon for them to be K.O'd yet so I know it will be authentic. By ordering from them I save at the very least 20$CAN instead of ordering from Pulse.

While I was at it, I also ordered the filler parts and the Reprolabels. The thing will be glorious once fully customised!

sol magnus wrote:

Gearslide wrote:Surprised no one has mentioned that SG Leader Grimlock is supposedly in that group of recently leaked ID Numbers.

Oh, it's been mentioned, just not in here.

I will be interested to see those SG colors on the SS86 one, just hope it has a new fiercer looking head and maybe actually a sword too

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

sol magnus wrote:

Gearslide wrote:Surprised no one has mentioned that SG Leader Grimlock is supposedly in that group of recently leaked ID Numbers.

Oh, it's been mentioned, just not in here.

I will be interested to see those SG colors on the SS86 one, just hope it has a new fiercer looking head and maybe actually a sword too

It's the possibility of a sword that interests me the most.