The Energon Pub

by **Goribus** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 1:39 pm

Tammuz wrote:
Goribus wrote:The core could refer to several things. Most obvious is that in War Within 2 The Fallen tried to enact an Ancient Ceremony deep within Cybertron, but was thrwarted by an alliance of Autobots and Decepticons. Second would be the Mayhem Attack Squad's mission into the depths of Cybertron. While trying to assassinate several key members of the Autobot faction a stray shot served to awaken Primus from his ages old slumber. This could also refer to the Plasma Energy Chamber deep within the very bowls of the planet. Autobots and Decepticons were exposed to the energy and blasted across the cosmos to a far flung planet where they bonded with fleshbags. Or perhaps the Fallen has optics for Vector Sigma. With it's key he could create an army from drones...

i still think the lever from G1 is the most obvious since the quints came before the fallen, and it's the quints, not the fallen, who are after the center according to the front page.

Yes but they also don't want the Fallen in the Core. Which leads me to believe it's something he could use against them.

by **Tammuz** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 1:43 pm

Goribus wrote:
Tammuz wrote:
Goribus wrote:The core could refer to several things. Most obvious is that in War Within 2 The Fallen tried to enact an Ancient Ceremony deep within Cybertron, but was thrwarted by an alliance of Autobots and Decepticons. Second would be the Mayhem Attack Squad's mission into the depths of Cybertron. While trying to assassinate several key members of the Autobot faction a stray shot served to awaken Primus from his ages old slumber. This could also refer to the Plasma Energy Chamber deep within the very bowls of the planet. Autobots and Decepticons were exposed to the energy and blasted across the cosmos to a far flung planet where they bonded with fleshbags. Or perhaps the Fallen has optics for Vector Sigma. With it's key he could create an army from drones...

i still think the lever from G1 is the most obvious since the quints came before the fallen, and it's the quints, not the fallen, who are after the center according to the front page.

Yes but they also don't want the Fallen in the Core. Which leads me to believe it's something he could use against them.

touche

by **Wrath** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 1:47 pm

Tammuz wrote:or a forcefield armour one.

Rank 11? That's what he has isn't it :shock:

News Credits: 6 · by **Dr. Caelus** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 2:10 pm

You're forgetting something else that was supposedly at Cybertron's core - Green Goo.

Really a pretty crowded place.

But then you got to figure there is a distinction between "deep within" Cybertron and Cybertron's "core".

News Credits: 8 · by **Flashwave** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 4:19 pm

Dragonslayer wrote:
Mr. Kemp wrote:If we do capture the Fallen, do you think that we could either turn him against the Quints or reverse engineer him to duplicate his power? Both options sound attractive. Imagine a full team of Fallen-level Transformers fighting the Quintessons. The Quints wouldn't stand a chance.

Wishful thinking, but it's my belief that the Fallen is too strong and too clever to let us try and duplicate his abilities and power. All we can hope to do is detain him until we can stop the Quints.

Hae you not learned? As loing as he can be teleported, we can be him. :twisted:

It's really quite simple, you break someone down to an atomic level, program new parimeters stolen from transporting the Fall Guy and throwing in some more matter energy. Poof, everybody and their brother's uncle is a Fallen clone.

News Credits: 7 · by **Chaoslock** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 4:25 pm

Flashwave wrote:
Dragonslayer wrote:
Mr. Kemp wrote:If we do capture the Fallen, do you think that we could either turn him against the Quints or reverse engineer him to duplicate his power? Both options sound attractive. Imagine a full team of Fallen-level Transformers fighting the Quintessons. The Quints wouldn't stand a chance.

Wishful thinking, but it's my belief that the Fallen is too strong and too clever to let us try and duplicate his abilities and power. All we can hope to do is detain him until we can stop the Quints.

Hae you not learned? As loing as he can be teleported, we can be him.

It's really quite simple, you break someone down to an atomic level, program new parimeters stolen from transporting the Fall Guy and throwing in some more matter energy. Poof, everybody and their brother's uncle is a Fallen clone.

And there's nothing that could guarantee that the new clones would bear the original persons mind, and not that of the hothead guy.

by **Tammuz** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 4:25 pm

Flashwave wrote:
Dragonslayer wrote:
Mr. Kemp wrote:If we do capture the Fallen, do you think that we could either turn him against the Quints or reverse engineer him to duplicate his power? Both options sound attractive. Imagine a full team of Fallen-level Transformers fighting the Quintessons. The Quints wouldn't stand a chance.

Wishful thinking, but it's my belief that the Fallen is too strong and too clever to let us try and duplicate his abilities and power. All we can hope to do is detain him until we can stop the Quints.

Hae you not learned? As loing as he can be teleported, we can be him.

It's really quite simple, you break someone down to an atomic level, program new parimeters stolen from transporting the Fall Guy and throwing in some more matter energy. Poof, everybody and their brother's uncle is a Fallen clone.

except you can't beat entropy. and the fallen is entropy embodied.

News Credits: 8 · by **Flashwave** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 4:31 pm

Chaoslock wrote:
Flashwave wrote:
Dragonslayer wrote:
Mr. Kemp wrote:If we do capture the Fallen, do you think that we could either turn him against the Quints or reverse engineer him to duplicate his power? Both options sound attractive. Imagine a full team of Fallen-level Transformers fighting the Quintessons. The Quints wouldn't stand a chance.

Wishful thinking, but it's my belief that the Fallen is too strong and too clever to let us try and duplicate his abilities and power. All we can hope to do is detain him until we can stop the Quints.

Hae you not learned? As loing as he can be teleported, we can be him.

It's really quite simple, you break someone down to an atomic level, program new parimeters stolen from transporting the Fall Guy and throwing in some more matter energy. Poof, everybody and their brother's uncle is a Fallen clone.

And there's nothing that could guarantee that the new clones would bear the original persons mind, and not that of the hothead guy.

yeah there is, go look at the Star Trek Transporter. There's a very good likelyness that the pesonality would still be there. And besiddes, the Silence's Design specifically back's up the subjects entire memory file just in case and if the nerw file doesn;'t match exactly, it's destroyed and the back up is replaced.

As for Tammuz' funny word, we'll invert the beam to an anti-matter setting. Easy as Pie. or Cake, I prefer Cake.

(No CP, stay back)