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screw rank. end will help soo much more
the armors don't make a difference, i've experimented in the arena and havent seen a difference. maybe the rank 4 and up armors make a diff, but i wouldn't know

6 strength
4 speed
3 courage
4 avoid
6 ram

has been doin wonders for me with that xp. put next rank in avoid or do 2 courage and 5 avoid now

i also cant help but notice some other maxi's have 400k+ on lvl 2's. must be them tying to stagnate us

Wingspan wrote:

Absolute Zero wrote:Cheapest you can get to level 3 is about 270k.

That's about accurate. 300k is when the Level 3 starts to be more competitive. 330k (with a good 2 tactic alt) is when you hit 2 or 3 stats into Level 3.

300 is a good entry point for level 3 right now, because thats when you can get a 6 str and still have OK stats in speed, courage, end, and your tactic.

I think 350 is the lowest entry point for single tactic alts to get to level 3, which puts AMs at over 400k.

Zordon wrote:oops! i copied and pasted the wrong xp amount Airstorm's got 309,966xp so as soon as hes out of CR i will reset, I can do a decent build with a Predator and get to level 3 with 267,000xp

i don't think the level you are effect's missions the way it does with an arena. it just your CR cost and seeing as i have 150K coming my way for claiming N_V bounty i can splash a bit there. (what the best armor off 2 rank ? the build i have in mind will have 5 STR

Don't worry about rank 2 until you're a higher level 3. One of the rank levels is a dead stat too with no armors (unless that got fixed). 6 strength is almost a requirement for level 3 right now, and the faster you get up to 7, the better. Don't rush level a whole lot of guys, pick your best performers and build them rationally, and you'll get to level 3 pretty quick, and if you're leveling up guys below 300k and 6 strength, do not enter the arena against a majority of the bots and cons. I lost 100k in a week because my low end guys were getting slaughtered.

Absolute Zero wrote:[
...and if you're leveling up guys below 300k and 6 strength, do not enter the arena against a majority of the bots and cons. I lost 100k in a week because my low end guys were getting slaughtered.

i actually rocked with 5 str for a while at 3rd level. it can be done, but only on a heavy avoid build. even now stafers get raped in the L3 arena

Name_Violation wrote:screw rank. end will help soo much more
the armors don't make a difference, i've experimented in the arena and havent seen a difference. maybe the rank 4 and up armors make a diff, but i wouldn't know

6 strength
4 speed
3 courage
4 avoid
6 ram

has been doin wonders for me with that xp. put next rank in avoid or do 2 courage and 5 avoid now

i also cant help but notice some other maxi's have 400k+ on lvl 2's. must be them tying to stagnate us

Thats a good build N_V thanks, im going to stay away from rank/armor think in might run with
STR 6
SPD 4
END 2
COR 3
AVD 4
RAM 5
that will take 310K and just run with 5 STR till i top 310K

Sorry guys, I haven't been around much. Busy in RL, and I've found the game almost painfully dull since the reset. I HATE HATE HATE being level 2; I hated it the first time and I can't imagine how I slogged through it then, never mind having to do it again. The builds are dull, half the tactics are useless and it's a such a time-consuming trudge just to get an upgrade.

Being high level was fun, being low level again pretty much killed my interest. I imagine I'll be more active again when v2 rolls around...

Name_Violation wrote:

Absolute Zero wrote:[
...and if you're leveling up guys below 300k and 6 strength, do not enter the arena against a majority of the bots and cons. I lost 100k in a week because my low end guys were getting slaughtered.

i actually rocked with 5 str for a while at 3rd level. it can be done, but only on a heavy avoid build. even now stafers get raped in the L3 arena

Why do you think I switched over to rammers? Doing 75% damage in 2 hits was a bonus (those unfortunatly where the only 2 hits Rikou landed and they came early in the mission)

Rat Convoy wrote:Sorry guys, I haven't been around much. Busy in RL, and I've found the game almost painfully dull since the reset. I HATE HATE HATE being level 2; I hated it the first time and I can't imagine how I slogged through it then, never mind having to do it again. The builds are dull, half the tactics are useless and it's a such a time-consuming trudge just to get an upgrade.

Being high level was fun, being low level again pretty much killed my interest. I imagine I'll be more active again when v2 rolls around...

Yeah, I miss being level 8 (or even level 4 at this point) but ya go with whatcha got I guess.

And you slogged through level 2 by absolutely destroying all the 1-2 Cons. >P

418,013xp on a level 1?, hunter alt mode. i'm flabbergasted. can someone come up with any good reason? i can't comprehind this. this is enough xp to make a damn good lvl 3

Name_Violation wrote:Where are you guys?

Hibernating till V2.

Name_Violation wrote:418,013xp on a level 1?, hunter alt mode. i'm flabbergasted. can someone come up with any good reason? i can't comprehind this. this is enough xp to make a damn good lvl 3

Waz that?

Rat Convoy wrote:Sorry guys, I haven't been around much. Busy in RL, and I've found the game almost painfully dull since the reset. I HATE HATE HATE being level 2; I hated it the first time and I can't imagine how I slogged through it then, never mind having to do it again. The builds are dull, half the tactics are useless and it's a such a time-consuming trudge just to get an upgrade.

Being high level was fun, being low level again pretty much killed my interest. I imagine I'll be more active again when v2 rolls around...

I hear that man!!!

I had just got my top six into the lvl 5-6 range with almost all of the rest of my team up to lvl 3. And now I'm back slogging around in the 0-1's and this time its a horribly slow grind. At least the first time I did it we had the quint missions... that really helped my team power through lvl 1, with out the huge chunks of exp here and there it seems like its taking me a hell of a lot longer to get anywhere.

Guess it doesn't really matter to much with V2 on the way...its just hard to get excited when a good pull used to be +100,000 exp and now its +500

Absolute Zero wrote:

Name_Violation wrote:418,013xp on a level 1?, hunter alt mode. i'm flabbergasted. can someone come up with any good reason? i can't comprehind this. this is enough xp to make a damn good lvl 3

Waz that?

Absolute dommination of the lvl 1 arena?

Seeing your tf with +300k unspent exp?

How the hell is that even allowed by the game to be a level one? Bluevolt has reset all his guys, and they were all on 0 stats and Im sure all the 400k+ ones were lvl 2...

A certain maxi whose name i'll withhold, has a wolf with almost 420k xp and still level 1. it hurts my head

Next time the Lion alt pops up, I'll reset Rikou and see if he gets bumped to level 2.

lion alt is up
strong land animal

From what i've gathered the auto-levelling system only applies if you reset.

If you don't upgrade to the next level you can sit on however much xp you want.

And if people want to do that, it's their decision. There's no real benefit, if anything they're missing out on better xp.

Oh and don't waste your time or my time with the argument that it gives them an advantage over their weaker opponents because it doesn't.

So let's move off that particular topic and go back to mocking Maximals.

Name_Violation wrote:A certain maxi whose name i'll withhold, has a wolf with almost 420k xp and still level 1. it hurts my head

450 might be the cut off to level 2, since Rikou's over 460 and is a level 2 with 0 upgrades.

Burn wrote:From what i've gathered the auto-levelling system only applies if you reset.

If you don't upgrade to the next level you can sit on however much xp you want.

And if people want to do that, it's their decision. There's no real benefit, if anything they're missing out on better xp.

Oh and don't waste your time or my time with the argument that it gives them an advantage over their weaker opponents because it doesn't.

So let's move off that particular topic and go back to mocking Maximals.

The auto-leveling system shouldn't only apply if you reset. That's kinda half arsed.

The arguement is only invalid if they're sitting on the XP. There have been people in the past, like (name deleted to protect the guilty) who ran level 2s with 10 strength.

Absolute Zero wrote:The auto-leveling system shouldn't only apply if you reset. That's kinda half arsed.

Yes, and as has been explained numerous times in the past, the auto levelling system was one of the functions that got a little bit bjorked!

The arguement is only invalid if they're sitting on the XP. There have been people in the past, like (name deleted to protect the guilty) who ran level 2s with 10 strength.

And if people really feel that there are people out there doing that, PM A MOD!

Let us deal with it instead of these snippy little innuendo's of "cheating" on the forums.

Either put up, or shut up.

the peron i'm talking about isn't cheating. i did the math on thir build. its 2 str 4 avoid some other stuff. they just got 300,000+ unspent xp

Burn wrote:

Absolute Zero wrote:The auto-leveling system shouldn't only apply if you reset. That's kinda half arsed.

Yes, and as has been explained numerous times in the past, the auto levelling system was one of the functions that got a little bit bjorked!

I missed that memo.

The arguement is only invalid if they're sitting on the XP. There have been people in the past, like (name deleted to protect the guilty) who ran level 2s with 10 strength.

And if people really feel that there are people out there doing that, PM A MOD!

Let us deal with it instead of these snippy little innuendo's of "cheating" on the forums.

Either put up, or shut up.

I'm not accusing anyone of anything. I'm just saying your statement was flawed.

Absolute Zero wrote:I'm not accusing anyone of anything.

"Name deleted to protect the guilty"?

Whatever AZ.

Like I said (and you seemed to have ignored), get back to mocking Maximals.

so it looks like the maxi's landed on a farm, cuz they've all transformed into chickens

Bada bmm dssh!

whats a maximals favorite kind of nimber? a PPRIME number

how many maxi's does it take to fill a mission? no one knows, we haven't seen it.

why did the maxi cross the road? to run away from combat.

Name_Violation wrote:the peron i'm talking about isn't cheating. i did the math on thir build. its 2 str 4 avoid some other stuff. they just got 300,000+ unspent xp

I am the one being talked about..

My character: Alpha Fang
http://www.seibertron.com/heavymetalwar ... r_id=88389

There are MANY reasons why. The main reason is tht I am experimenting with rate of xp gain vs time online.

I live and work in South Korea. So often when I can play, it's not a busy for the game. Those in eurpoe and north america - I am sure you all know what I am talking bout.

There always seems to be those times of the day when a considerable ammount of fellow faction members are online.

Clearly I would be doing more damage and what not if I levels my stats.

However, from experience back before the crash - I learned the following:

1) The less time spent in CR - the more time you spend actively gaining xp.

2) Don't join a mission vs cons unless there is only a couple minutes to go and the # of participants as pretty even. Cons always fill their missions (seemingly) and with only a couple minutes to go, as long as my faction had 4 (outta a 6vs6 mission for example) - I would hop in.

3) Don't join ANY fresh mission (20 minutes to start) - too much time available for the mission to become a lop-sided beat down. the one exception is when the arena queue is full of my faction members. THATS when I join fresh missions. I hope they pull themselves outta queue ans jump in with me.

4) Arena does not pay out much in Xp - we know this. HOWEVER, why should I risk a complete brutalizing in a 6 vs 1 (me being the 1) mission when I can go arena and roughly expect that even is I DO NOT win the arena bout - I *KNOW* I will make more xp than if I was in a mission situation like above. The plus side is that should I come out the victor in arena - then less time in CR and soon enough I will be able to join a more fair mission.

5) I know I am maxed on my stats right now at level 1. This improoves my odds of xp gain when I am forced to oto the arena. I prefer missions MUCH MORE -I would even join a mission where my side has NO opponents at mission start than goto arena. Makes since to me - grab the free 100xp, come back in 20 minutes, look for some better mission.

6) I am seeing that at lvl 1 it is much easier to find arena bouts vs opposing factions. Sometimes my lvl 2s have waited up to 30 minutes for a challenge - while my lvl 1 - can find a fight in 5 minutes. The sooner I am into battle (trying to earn xp) - the sooner I will be outta CR again and hence get a shot at more missions.

The list goes on, but I am compairing the time spend online playing and attempting to figure out (for my limited game time) - the best RATE to which I can gain XP. I'd rather risk less XP gains if it means I can put in more chances to go back into battle (missions).

I understand people my think this way of playing without putting levels into stas (and leveling up when I can) is dumb. However, please consider the fact I play at odd hours and like EVERYONE, I wish to make progress when gaining xp. For build concept - once I have enough to "max out lvl 2" - I will level up.

Yes, so I can hopefully dominate in arena. I'm sitting at 80% win ratio in area now. Not perfect - and often I just barely win. But why should I spend an hour in CR after dying when I can spend 45 minutes? In the LONG term my XP rate gain is larger.

BTW, I only arena when I have no good possibilities for missions. I agree it drives me absolutely nuts when I see a stack of MAXI's in arena and plenty of good missions that if they would just join - would tip the favor of victory towards my side.

Am I stupid for trying to calcutale the best way to play for my location?