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Postby OptimusN1701 » Thu Sep 27, 2007 1:51 am

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
OptimusN1701 wrote:I watch DS9 every now and then on Spike. I was watching it fairly consistantly for a bit a while back

i remember back when TNN had Trek uncut, I loved watching TNG every Friday night back then.
When i saw the DS9 pilot, i initially hated Sisko though as he was a dick to Picard initially(we talked about this in the old thread come to think of it) I was always so-so w/ him. That whole emissary thing w/ him I really didn't care for


I loved the way he treated Picard........It showed that not everybody was able to over look his being a member of the Borg.That not everybody was able to just forgive and forget.The emissary thing didnt bother me so much.


But he's Picard. Riker should have just came in there and decked his ass. Sisko was just being a bitch.

On a side note, i miss TNN, they were so much better than Spike. They should re-air Trek Uncut again and put at least TNG on on weeknights again
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Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Thu Sep 27, 2007 1:56 am

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sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
OptimusN1701 wrote:I watch DS9 every now and then on Spike. I was watching it fairly consistantly for a bit a while back

i remember back when TNN had Trek uncut, I loved watching TNG every Friday night back then.
When i saw the DS9 pilot, i initially hated Sisko though as he was a dick to Picard initially(we talked about this in the old thread come to think of it) I was always so-so w/ him. That whole emissary thing w/ him I really didn't care for


I loved the way he treated Picard........It showed that not everybody was able to over look his being a member of the Borg.That not everybody was able to just forgive and forget.The emissary thing didnt bother me so much.


But he's Picard. Riker should have just came in there and decked his ass. Sisko was just being a bitch.

On a side note, i miss TNN, they were so much better than Spike. They should re-air Trek Uncut again and put at least TNG on on weeknights again


Dude Riker would have gotten his a$$ kicked!!!!!!!I loved Sisko.......but that might be because he was also on a show back in the 80's that I loved, it was called Spencer for Hirrer and he played Hawk and he was a true bad a$$.
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Postby OptimusN1701 » Thu Sep 27, 2007 2:06 am

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
OptimusN1701 wrote:
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
OptimusN1701 wrote:I watch DS9 every now and then on Spike. I was watching it fairly consistantly for a bit a while back

i remember back when TNN had Trek uncut, I loved watching TNG every Friday night back then.
When i saw the DS9 pilot, i initially hated Sisko though as he was a dick to Picard initially(we talked about this in the old thread come to think of it) I was always so-so w/ him. That whole emissary thing w/ him I really didn't care for


I loved the way he treated Picard........It showed that not everybody was able to over look his being a member of the Borg.That not everybody was able to just forgive and forget.The emissary thing didnt bother me so much.


But he's Picard. Riker should have just came in there and decked his ass. Sisko was just being a bitch.

On a side note, i miss TNN, they were so much better than Spike. They should re-air Trek Uncut again and put at least TNG on on weeknights again


Dude Riker would have gotten his a$$ kicked!!!!!!!I loved Sisko.......but that might be because he was also on a show back in the 80's that I loved, it was called Spencer for Hirrer and he played Hawk and he was a true bad a$$.


Psssh, Riker could beat the **** out of Sisko anyday of the week
This gives me an idea for a fantasy battle :-?
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Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Thu Sep 27, 2007 2:14 am

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OptimusN1701 wrote:
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
OptimusN1701 wrote:
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
OptimusN1701 wrote:I watch DS9 every now and then on Spike. I was watching it fairly consistantly for a bit a while back

i remember back when TNN had Trek uncut, I loved watching TNG every Friday night back then.
When i saw the DS9 pilot, i initially hated Sisko though as he was a dick to Picard initially(we talked about this in the old thread come to think of it) I was always so-so w/ him. That whole emissary thing w/ him I really didn't care for


I loved the way he treated Picard........It showed that not everybody was able to over look his being a member of the Borg.That not everybody was able to just forgive and forget.The emissary thing didnt bother me so much.


But he's Picard. Riker should have just came in there and decked his ass. Sisko was just being a bitch.

On a side note, i miss TNN, they were so much better than Spike. They should re-air Trek Uncut again and put at least TNG on on weeknights again


Dude Riker would have gotten his a$$ kicked!!!!!!!I loved Sisko.......but that might be because he was also on a show back in the 80's that I loved, it was called Spencer for Hirrer and he played Hawk and he was a true bad a$$.


Psssh, Riker could beat the **** out of Sisko anyday of the week
This gives me an idea for a fantasy battle :-?


I've seen Sisko take on 5 Kligons and also saw him fight 3 Jem'Hadar.Riker was beaten by his old man dad an 1 Romulan.And he was pretty much beaten by that Remen in that last movie he just got lucky.
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Postby OptimusN1701 » Thu Sep 27, 2007 2:19 am

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
OptimusN1701 wrote:
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
OptimusN1701 wrote:
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
OptimusN1701 wrote:I watch DS9 every now and then on Spike. I was watching it fairly consistantly for a bit a while back

i remember back when TNN had Trek uncut, I loved watching TNG every Friday night back then.
When i saw the DS9 pilot, i initially hated Sisko though as he was a dick to Picard initially(we talked about this in the old thread come to think of it) I was always so-so w/ him. That whole emissary thing w/ him I really didn't care for


I loved the way he treated Picard........It showed that not everybody was able to over look his being a member of the Borg.That not everybody was able to just forgive and forget.The emissary thing didnt bother me so much.


But he's Picard. Riker should have just came in there and decked his ass. Sisko was just being a bitch.

On a side note, i miss TNN, they were so much better than Spike. They should re-air Trek Uncut again and put at least TNG on on weeknights again


Dude Riker would have gotten his a$$ kicked!!!!!!!I loved Sisko.......but that might be because he was also on a show back in the 80's that I loved, it was called Spencer for Hirrer and he played Hawk and he was a true bad a$$.


Psssh, Riker could beat the **** out of Sisko anyday of the week
This gives me an idea for a fantasy battle :-?


I've seen Sisko take on 5 Kligons and also saw him fight 3 Jem'Hadar.Riker was beaten by his old man dad an 1 Romulan.And he was pretty much beaten by that Remen in that last movie he just got lucky.


He could not see when he was fighting his dad, and his dad cheated

and Picard was a better captain than Sisko anyway :P

and with that I bid you farewell for the night as I must get up in 5 hours

as you Klingons would say, may you die well
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Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Thu Sep 27, 2007 2:21 am

Motto: "Today is a good day to die......but the day is not yet over!"
OptimusN1701 wrote:
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
OptimusN1701 wrote:
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
OptimusN1701 wrote:
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
OptimusN1701 wrote:I watch DS9 every now and then on Spike. I was watching it fairly consistantly for a bit a while back

i remember back when TNN had Trek uncut, I loved watching TNG every Friday night back then.
When i saw the DS9 pilot, i initially hated Sisko though as he was a dick to Picard initially(we talked about this in the old thread come to think of it) I was always so-so w/ him. That whole emissary thing w/ him I really didn't care for


I loved the way he treated Picard........It showed that not everybody was able to over look his being a member of the Borg.That not everybody was able to just forgive and forget.The emissary thing didnt bother me so much.


But he's Picard. Riker should have just came in there and decked his ass. Sisko was just being a bitch.

On a side note, i miss TNN, they were so much better than Spike. They should re-air Trek Uncut again and put at least TNG on on weeknights again


Dude Riker would have gotten his a$$ kicked!!!!!!!I loved Sisko.......but that might be because he was also on a show back in the 80's that I loved, it was called Spencer for Hirrer and he played Hawk and he was a true bad a$$.


Psssh, Riker could beat the **** out of Sisko anyday of the week
This gives me an idea for a fantasy battle :-?


I've seen Sisko take on 5 Kligons and also saw him fight 3 Jem'Hadar.Riker was beaten by his old man dad an 1 Romulan.And he was pretty much beaten by that Remen in that last movie he just got lucky.


He could not see when he was fighting his dad, and his dad cheated

and Picard was a better captain than Sisko anyway :P

and with that I bid you farewell for the night as I must get up in 5 hours

as you Klingons would say, may you die well


Ka pla
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Postby Wheeljack35 » Thu Sep 27, 2007 6:21 am

Still Picard is a Federation Captian

I know he will not trust him because Picard was the cause of his wifes death and the crew

But he was going to a new assignment he should of been a little more professional like Starfleet officers are supposed to be
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Postby Moonbase2 » Thu Sep 27, 2007 9:04 am

Yay! More Star Trek! Look at all this I missed last night!
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Postby OptimusN1701 » Thu Sep 27, 2007 10:50 am

Wheeljack35 wrote:Still Picard is a Federation Captian

I know he will not trust him because Picard was the cause of his wifes death and the crew

But he was going to a new assignment he should of been a little more professional like Starfleet officers are supposed to be


Yep. I mean Picard was abducted and has suffered enough because of all of it. The last thing he needed was Sisko being a dick and rubbing it in his face.
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Postby Insurgent » Thu Sep 27, 2007 12:02 pm

Sisko has balls though, you have to give him that.

After all, he did deck Q in a boxing match.
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Postby Moonbase2 » Thu Sep 27, 2007 12:24 pm

Sisko is probably my favorite captain, followed closely by Kirk. That episode where Sisko decks Garak because Garak did some serious dirty work to get the Romulans in the war is just golden. Sisko had a lot of emotional depth, and what cooler way to end a Star Trek show than by making the captain a god.
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Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Thu Sep 27, 2007 2:57 pm

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Moonbase2 wrote:Yay! More Star Trek! Look at all this I missed last night!


Dont worry I save some for you. 8)
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Postby OptimusN1701 » Thu Sep 27, 2007 10:49 pm

Moonbase2 wrote:Sisko is probably my favorite captain, followed closely by Kirk. That episode where Sisko decks Garak because Garak did some serious dirty work to get the Romulans in the war is just golden. Sisko had a lot of emotional depth, and what cooler way to end a Star Trek show than by making the captain a god.


That's interesting. I've never heard anyone say he was their fav before.

What did you think of Archer?
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Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Thu Sep 27, 2007 11:06 pm

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Moonbase2 wrote:Sisko is probably my favorite captain, followed closely by Kirk. That episode where Sisko decks Garak because Garak did some serious dirty work to get the Romulans in the war is just golden. Sisko had a lot of emotional depth, and what cooler way to end a Star Trek show than by making the captain a god.


That's interesting. I've never heard anyone say he was their fav before.

What did you think of Archer?


Are you asking All or just MB2?????
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Postby OptimusN1701 » Thu Sep 27, 2007 11:12 pm

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
OptimusN1701 wrote:
Moonbase2 wrote:Sisko is probably my favorite captain, followed closely by Kirk. That episode where Sisko decks Garak because Garak did some serious dirty work to get the Romulans in the war is just golden. Sisko had a lot of emotional depth, and what cooler way to end a Star Trek show than by making the captain a god.


That's interesting. I've never heard anyone say he was their fav before.

What did you think of Archer?


Are you asking All or just MB2?????


Initially her, but what the hell, lets open it up to everyone
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Postby Moonbase2 » Thu Sep 27, 2007 11:12 pm

Oh, I don't watch Enterprise. No sir, I won't do it.

My favorite Star Trek shows are DS9 and TOS. TNG is somewhat watchable, though I prefer the movies, and Voyager is mediocre. But Enterprise, no no. It doesn't FEEL like Star Trek, and even Voyager, for its complete meh-ness, managed to pull that off. Voyager just didn't have compelling characters or stories. DS9 is incredible. TOS, for its time, is quite wonderful. They had lots of (for the silly little show it was) intelligent stories and a lot of social messages. It was ahead of its time.
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Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Thu Sep 27, 2007 11:24 pm

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I watched Enterprise but I didnt like it that much........To me its like Pizza........even when its bad its still pretty good :P
But Archer and crew sucked.
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Postby OptimusN1701 » Thu Sep 27, 2007 11:28 pm

Moonbase2 wrote:Oh, I don't watch Enterprise. No sir, I won't do it.

My favorite Star Trek shows are DS9 and TOS. TNG is somewhat watchable, though I prefer the movies, and Voyager is mediocre. But Enterprise, no no. It doesn't FEEL like Star Trek, and even Voyager, for its complete meh-ness, managed to pull that off. Voyager just didn't have compelling characters or stories. DS9 is incredible. TOS, for its time, is quite wonderful. They had lots of (for the silly little show it was) intelligent stories and a lot of social messages. It was ahead of its time.


I personally thought Voyager was a good show. And no not because of Seven of Nine, I actually don't like her. I thought that the Doctor was a really great character.

I also really like TNG. Sure it could have used more action, but it was a good drama and show all around. I think that they had some of the best characters in TNG. Picard, Worf, Data. I thought they were great
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Postby OptimusN1701 » Thu Sep 27, 2007 11:33 pm

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:I watched Enterprise but I didnt like it that much........To me its like Pizza........even when its bad its still pretty good :P
But Archer and crew sucked.


I thought Archer was way overrated. It was like he was always being made into the savior of the future of the Star Trek universe. I did like Reed though

I liked the way that Enterprise's finally was basically a big "screw you, we're gonna make it about Riker and TNG with you all as holograms"
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Postby Moonbase2 » Thu Sep 27, 2007 11:40 pm

So what do you think of DS9 and TOS then? I've been a fan of both since I was 12 and 14, respectively. I used to watch Voyager back in the day when it was on and I couldn't get into it as much. And now, I gave it a chance and it doesn't do it for me.

Every one of DS9's main characters had some serious character development, mainly with Sisko. Making the Federation go through a costly war was a fantastic way to develop the characters, and I appreciated how every episode wasn't just a stand-alone episode.
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Postby OptimusN1701 » Thu Sep 27, 2007 11:49 pm

Moonbase2 wrote:So what do you think of DS9 and TOS then? I've been a fan of both since I was 12 and 14, respectively. I used to watch Voyager back in the day when it was on and I couldn't get into it as much. And now, I gave it a chance and it doesn't do it for me.

Every one of DS9's main characters had some serious character development, mainly with Sisko. Making the Federation go through a costly war was a fantastic way to develop the characters, and I appreciated how every episode wasn't just a stand-alone episode.


I like TOS a lot, especially the movies
DS9 is good in my opinion. I havent seen much of it, but I do like the Dominion War's action.

Speaking of which, have you ever played Star Trek Armada or Armada ?
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Postby Moonbase2 » Thu Sep 27, 2007 11:56 pm

A video game? No. I'm not much for gaming.

You really should watch more of DS9. It's the only show I own in its entirety. I mean, there are definitely some duds, but overall the show is top notch. Personally, I prefer seasons 5-7, because of the Dominion War (gotta love the female shapeshifter and Weyoun) and their finally getting rid of Jadzia. My favorite character in the show is Odo, and boy did he change over the seven seasons.
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Postby OptimusN1701 » Fri Sep 28, 2007 12:11 am

Moonbase2 wrote:A video game? No. I'm not much for gaming.

You really should watch more of DS9. It's the only show I own in its entirety. I mean, there are definitely some duds, but overall the show is top notch. Personally, I prefer seasons 5-7, because of the Dominion War (gotta love the female shapeshifter and Weyoun) and their finally getting rid of Jadzia. My favorite character in the show is Odo, and boy did he change over the seven seasons.


Thats a shame. Nothing is more satisfying than building you own armada and blowing the **** out of some Cardassians
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Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Fri Sep 28, 2007 12:39 am

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OptimusN1701 wrote:
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:I watched Enterprise but I didnt like it that much........To me its like Pizza........even when its bad its still pretty good :P
But Archer and crew sucked.




I liked the way that Enterprise's finally was basically a big "screw you, we're gonna make it about Riker and TNG with you all as holograms"


I think that was only for that episode.I've never read anything anywhere that suggests that the whole series was ment to be like that.
What I didnt like was that they didnt even design a new ship for the NX-01 Enterprise on that show.
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Postby OptimusN1701 » Fri Sep 28, 2007 12:41 am

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
OptimusN1701 wrote:
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:I watched Enterprise but I didnt like it that much........To me its like Pizza........even when its bad its still pretty good :P
But Archer and crew sucked.




I liked the way that Enterprise's finally was basically a big "screw you, we're gonna make it about Riker and TNG with you all as holograms"


I think that was only for that episode.I've never read anything anywhere that suggests that the whole series was ment to be like that.
What I didnt like was that they didnt even design a new ship for the NX-01 Enterprise on that show.


Oh, I was referring to just the last episode there
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