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No0wbish Questions From A No0b

Postby SKYBLADEPRIME1 » Wed Oct 29, 2008 2:50 am

These may sound like no0bish questions, but then i am a newb.

1: I bought aload of weapons, all of them needed 0Skill 0Firepower, but i still cant figure out how to get my TFs to hold them! can anyone help?

2:I made a charactor, then i had to change the name, what i didnt realise was that the Alt Mode reset aswell, and my TF doesnt have an Alt mode...how do i give it one???
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Re: No0wbish Questions From A No0b

Postby Absolute Zero » Wed Oct 29, 2008 2:55 am

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SKYBLADEPRIME1 wrote:These may sound like no0bish questions, but then i am a newb.

1: I bought aload of weapons, all of them needed 0Skill 0Firepower, but i still cant figure out how to get my TFs to hold them! can anyone help?

2:I made a charactor, then i had to change the name, what i didnt realise was that the Alt Mode reset aswell, and my TF doesnt have an Alt mode...how do i give it one???


1: There is a drop down on the character page for the bot to give them the weapon you bought for them. Same weapons stack so don't be shocked if you don't see all of them there.

2: On the upgrade link on the character page, scroll down and you can see the alt modes available to you. They just changed a few hours ago.
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Re: No0wbish Questions From A No0b

Postby SKYBLADEPRIME1 » Wed Oct 29, 2008 3:00 am

thanks
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Re: No0wbish Questions From A No0b

Postby Neo Crusader » Wed Oct 29, 2008 3:25 am

uve been signed up to HMW for about a year, have long has it been since u last logged on? :-?
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Re: No0wbish Questions From A No0b

Postby Neo Crusader » Wed Oct 29, 2008 3:28 am

i mean no offence but it must have been a while if uve forgot how to apply weaps :P
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Re: No0wbish Questions From A No0b

Postby Burn » Wed Oct 29, 2008 3:37 am

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The forum join date doesn't reflect the date they started playing HMW.
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Re: No0wbish Questions From A No0b

Postby Neo Crusader » Wed Oct 29, 2008 3:44 am

point conceeded
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Re: No0wbish Questions From A No0b

Postby crazyfists » Wed Oct 29, 2008 8:47 am

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Quick point, you can change names without resetting. Under the Edit Character link, you can change the character name without resetting. You can also edit their bio, motto, and color. This way you will not lose the alt and armor.
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Re: No0wbish Questions From A No0b

Postby neliz » Wed Oct 29, 2008 11:09 am

crazyfists wrote:Quick point, you can change names without resetting. Under the Edit Character link, you can change the character name without resetting. You can also edit their bio, motto, and color. This way you will not lose the alt and armor.


On the Other hand, resetting a bot does NOT reset his Name and Bio. so the question "reset bot to get a new name"... DOES NOT COMPUTE
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Re: No0wbish Questions From A No0b

Postby SKYBLADEPRIME1 » Wed Oct 29, 2008 2:56 pm

Well actually i am a reterning player, but even befor i left i could never figure out how to give new alt-modes and weapons to my team...25k of energon washed down the drain..untill now!
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Re: No0wbish Questions From A No0b

Postby maximusprimal81 » Wed Nov 05, 2008 6:49 am

i have been a while for a while so i could be classed as a noob why did we have a massive reset and what has changed
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Re: No0wbish Questions From A No0b

Postby Wingspan » Wed Nov 05, 2008 7:25 am

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Why? Not precisely sure but in essence an error was made and was not recoverable when making an upgrade to the site, but because of the upgrade that error is no longer possible.

What's changed? Nothing; game's the same. All characters are at level 2 or lower though, favoring the 0s so it's a good time to rejoin.
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Re: No0wbish Questions From A No0b

Postby crazyfists » Wed Nov 05, 2008 10:18 am

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The site crashed during the hurricane that hit Texas a few months back. There was no back-up of information for HMW so we lost all of our player information and old threads on the forum. Thats why the game was reset.

Code wise, nothing was changed to the game so it's the same was it was pre-reset. Just now we're all lower levels.
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Re: No0wbish Questions From A No0b

Postby quetzalcoatl » Wed Nov 05, 2008 11:12 am

crazyfists wrote:The site crashed during the hurricane that hit Texas a few months back. There was no back-up of information for HMW so we lost all of our player information and old threads on the forum. Thats why the game was reset.

Code wise, nothing was changed to the game so it's the same was it was pre-reset. Just now we're all lower levels.

So if this is true, then the original level coding is still the same, right? Then why do we not have level specific battles (0, 1, etc), instead of only mixed (0-2 mishmash example) missions?
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Re: No0wbish Questions From A No0b

Postby Chaoslock » Wed Nov 05, 2008 11:14 am

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The game is not really the same: the alt. classes got a complete re-structure, there's a lot more of the alts now than there were before the reset.

(sadly, there's no cheap strafer - avoider class)
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Re: No0wbish Questions From A No0b

Postby Wingspan » Wed Nov 05, 2008 11:21 am

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Chaoslock wrote:The game is not really the same: the alt. classes got a complete re-structure, there's a lot more of the alts now than there were before the reset.

(sadly, there's no cheap strafer - avoider class)

Yes - that is totally changed. The alts are much more "balanced" - but that does mean there isn't anything cheap anymore.
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Re: No0wbish Questions From A No0b

Postby crazyfists » Wed Nov 05, 2008 11:38 am

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I mean the game code itself was not changed, like additional tactics, damage change, etc. When the server crashed, all the information was lost. The game CODE itself was was not changed, but the information like our bots, were lost. The alt-mode reclassification is/was to help with Mkall's tactics and future changes/balance. That doesn't change the code of how the game actually works and thank you Mkall for putting hard work into something he felt that needed to be done.

Missions still generate as they used to and everything works or doesn't work the way it was pre-crash. The mission text and level break down is not exactly part of the code of the game itself. We had to redo missions which is why the mission levels are not the same as before. The text might be the same or the names of missions, but they had to be re-done. Weapon and armor information was also lost, but thankfully some people had kept records so we were able to recover most of if not all of the lost information to run the game as it was pre-crash.

So all in all, we lost everything except for the game code itself and we had to redo missions, armor, weapons, alt modes, etc.
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Re: No0wbish Questions From A No0b

Postby Tammuz » Wed Nov 05, 2008 1:03 pm

er crazyfists....you might want to double check the tactic damages before and after the reset, they have changed.
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Re: No0wbish Questions From A No0b

Postby crazyfists » Wed Nov 05, 2008 3:53 pm

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Tammuz wrote:er crazyfists....you might want to double check the tactic damages before and after the reset, they have changed.


I was under the impression that damage was not changed, but I could be mistaken since I didn't actually look at the code before and after. Thats something OS would be best to answer and not me, I'm not a programmer or a doctor.

Again, that was not the point I was trying to make. The point I was trying to make was that we had to re-add missions, and armor, and weapons. So if things are different WITH MISSIONS, it's because they are different than they were pre-reset.
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Re: No0wbish Questions From A No0b

Postby Tammuz » Wed Nov 05, 2008 4:02 pm

i did point it out to mkall about a month or so ago. he said OS hadn't changed anything (but he could be lying) so they're either bugged now, or where bugged before. either way since the game's come back tactics have become alot more incnosistant as there lowe damage ranges have dropped considerably, overall rams lost about a 5th of it's damage, strafe's down about a 3rd.
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Re: No0wbish Questions From A No0b

Postby crazyfists » Wed Nov 05, 2008 4:17 pm

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Tammuz wrote:i did point it out to mkall about a month or so ago. he said OS hadn't changed anything (but he could be lying) so they're either bugged now, or where bugged before. either way since the game's come back tactics have become alot more incnosistant as there lowe damage ranges have dropped considerably, overall rams lost about a 5th of it's damage, strafe's down about a 3rd.


Don't think it might just be the results of being lower levels? You know, less support stats and less tactic upgrades.
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Re: No0wbish Questions From A No0b

Postby Dr. Caelus » Wed Nov 05, 2008 7:46 pm

I would guess that it's one of the improvements that was lost when the whole thing went kablooie.

That or Tammuz is wrong.
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Re: No0wbish Questions From A No0b

Postby Tammuz » Thu Nov 06, 2008 1:12 am

crazyfists wrote:
Tammuz wrote:i did point it out to mkall about a month or so ago. he said OS hadn't changed anything (but he could be lying) so they're either bugged now, or where bugged before. either way since the game's come back tactics have become alot more incnosistant as there lowe damage ranges have dropped considerably, overall rams lost about a 5th of it's damage, strafe's down about a 3rd.


Don't think it might just be the results of being lower levels? You know, less support stats and less tactic upgrades.


No.

Caelus wrote:I would guess that it's one of the improvements that was lost when the whole thing went kablooie.


maybe, it was better before however, tactics are now too inconsistent 10str ram will do 8damage right now agaisnt a 0 end target.

Caelus wrote:That or Tammuz is wrong.


it's a possibility. but i never recall doing as little as 8% damage with 10str ram before the reset.
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Re: No0wbish Questions From A No0b

Postby Dr. Caelus » Thu Nov 06, 2008 10:10 am

Someone has 10 strength already?!
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Re: No0wbish Questions From A No0b

Postby crazyfists » Thu Nov 06, 2008 10:16 am

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Caelus wrote:Someone has 10 strength already?!


I think it was meant to be a hypothetical 10 strength.
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