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I saw the new Transformers movie Friday night. I have to say I was a little disappointed. I was with my friend, and I told him that it was going to be awesome. He said "we'll see", and then I jokingly told him that I'd have to hurt him if he dared say it wasn't good. I mean after all, Optimus Prime is in it! He's the man... or "bot" I guess I should say!
Initially I was surprised at how quickly the movie seemed to pick up, but it was only a temporary feeling. After the first hour, I still wasn't at the edge of my seat. I became rather bored watching it. It just wasn't very exciting. One problem was there was too much focus on the humans, and minimal focus on the transformers. There was also very minimal battle in the movie. Even the battle between Megatron and Optimus Prime left me feeling a little empty. Optimus Prime seemed to give up too easily, which is certainly not like him when you look at how he was in the original cartoon.
Finally, there was way too much hype throughout the movie. They tried way to hard to make it look "cool" when there wasn't much backbone there to begin with. I love humor, but they used it a little too often in the movie, and that in my opinion took away from the potentially "cool" feeling of the movie. The humor was more of a distraction than anything.
I won't tell you it's a bad movie -- I modestly liked it, but it wasn't at all what it's been hyped up to be. If you go to see it, lower your expectations slightly and I think you'll tend to like it more.
Oh, and ironically my friend thought it was absolutely great. Maybe I should kill him for saying that... I'll think on it.
Mechanurgist wrote:I went in to see the movie with low expectations, and Michael Bay managed to limbo underneath even those. What is wrong with this man? Half the movie is a mixture of terrible teen comedy and melodrama, there are three badly-intersected plotlines, my beloved transformers are turned into bad jokes tip-toeing around a rose garden like some demented ninjas in a Peter Sellers comedy, and there are about 15 too many human characters.
And the action; don't get me started. How could Bay screw this up so badly? It's supposed to be his specialty! Most of the time you can't even tell which autobot or decepticon is flying (or rolling, for some stupid reason) across the screen. The military scenes are decent but not much better than what you'd see in a military documentary. Most of the autobots, and many of the decepticons, are indistinguishable in their robot forms, so you never know if it was Jazz or Barricade who just got a missile to the face. Since I couldn't tell who was doing what to whom, I stopped caring. It all became a blur of moving machinery and random explosions. Is Bay the Jackson Pollock of action movies?
Apart from Bumblebee, Optimus and Frenzy most of the transformers have as much personality as a fruit stand. They might as well be drones. The original series, within the first 20 minutes, managed to convey more characterization than this entire 2 1/2 hour Bay epic. The focus on the NSA bimbo is even worse; she gets more air time than any of the robots! The editing in the whole movie is disjointed, uneven and one of the worst post-production jobs I've ever seen. Just when some of the action scenes start to get good we cut to another godawful domestic scene.
The Onion is quite right; Bay turned what should have been a great action movie into a teen comedy commercial.
5/10
Bender Prime wrote:Saw it for the third time last night, and I enjoyed it more than the second time. Just such a fun film.
Still, all these cinema tickets and overpriced popcorn are hurting my wallet! But it's worth it.
Prime is just so damn cool. When he looks out over that landscape in the last shot of the film and says something along the lines of 'My name is Optimus Prime, and I send this message to all autobots taking refuge amongst the stars... We are here, we are waiting' - I get chills down my spine, THAT is effing Prime! Can't wait for the sequel.
tile_mcgillus wrote:D-340 wrote:tile_mcgillus wrote:The number of weird racist things in this movie:
1. Indian stereotype *edited*phone*edited* operator
2. Bernie Mac threatening physical violence against his "classy" Momma.
3. The Black hacker living with his momma and being lazy playing video games. Then the guys running from the cops.
4. "Iranian scientists are too stupid to figure this out..."
5. Every single stereotypical thing that came out of Jazz's mouth.
6. "WE DONT SPEAK SPANISH! STOP IT!"
I am not just searching these things out here. I know Tyrese's character is strong and a warrior and the smartest hacker in the world is Anthony Anderson. However, AA never says anything intelligent and just eats donuts and cries.
I think you're reading too much into this. If you truely believe this, then by your account, Star Wars is racist. Star Trek is racist. Hell, even Spaceballs would be racist. Come on, it's ok to not like the movie, but to see things and call them racist is insane. Step back, and ease up a bit. Hate the flick all you want, but don't accuse it of being something it isn't.
I understand what you are saying. I was just pointing out those things together. I am not calling anyone racist but just noticing the weird things that play into stereotypes. It was interesting that all of those things appeared in the same movie. I probably should have used the word stereotypical.
Mojo was exposed to the Allspark by Sam's mom with the hope that his leg would be healed. Instead he turned into Movie Wheelie.Friend of Da Panda Symbol wrote:Mojo--Where is he after the feds cart him off? I don't recall seeing him in the those end credits with the parents.
I find this really depressing. I don't mind listing the big namers first, but by God, give Cullen and the others their dues! The man is literally a VA legend, and most of the others, if I recall, aren't strangers to the VA world, either. Give them some respect, li'l bitches (to quote Jazz). Sorry, I had to say that.Friend of Da Panda Symbol wrote:Not one V/A after the main stars in the credits. What in the world were the credit listers thinking?????
I find this really depressing. I don't mind listing the big namers first, but by God, give Cullen and the others their dues! The man is literally a VA legend, and most of the others, if I recall, aren't strangers to the VA world, either. Give them some respect, li'l bitches (to quote Jazz). Sorry, I had to say that.[/quote]Sentinel Pax wrote:Not one V/A after the main stars in the credits. What in the world were the credit listers thinking?????
Skowl wrote:...probably my biggest complaint about the film (aside from monkey-lips on Prime) is his use of stereotypes for cheap laughs (like in most of his other films). Bay especially has a bad habit of portraying hispanics in a bad light (Bad Boys I & II, now Transformers). They're just cheap laughs pandering to the lowest common denominator. Stuff like that should never have been in the film, especially with the raging debate in the US on immigration - and if it did end up in the film, it should have been cut to make room for more robots.
Hanch Prime wrote:unfortunately in most movies you can only really flesh out a few characters. Bumblebee has a nice progression, I hated the cartoon version he was just a pussy. This bumblebee is actually cool. Sam is developed really well. Then you have the supporting characters that are some what developed like Prime and Megan Fox. also too I thought Sam's parents (especially Mom) were hilarious. But the theme of the movie is a boy and his car and Sam and Bumblebee are the main characters.
There was not enough time to develop every character, In a series you can develop every character over a course of a few episodes and by concentrating on a certain character in a particular episode. I think the movie did a good job of developing the key characters. It's a very entertaining movie and was allot of fun. Thats the way it should be. Now that it's made 122 million already and its not even into its first weekend, we know we will get sequels so the characters can progress more.
Tusko wrote:I watched the movie and was unimpressed by the film making.
I left frustrated and the changes in the POV were offsetting. The action from the ground level was confusing and I wanted more shots that pulled back to show the action.
It wasn't good, but it wasn't bad. I think all the elements for making it good are in there somewhere but the way things were put together on film resulted in an experience I didn't like.
galvason wrote:Hey i sorta wrote up a fan scrip for the sequel, it involves Soundwave! he turns into a comunications tower and intercepts primes transmission and then reports to Shockwave, also if they dont include Galvatron in the sequel i will be annoyed.
(I know about everyone will disagree with me on the Galvatron issue but any way)
moonwalker wrote:What i dont get is why the people that didnt like the film pick on some stupid details and brand that as the worst part of the movie when the flick is so bad it doesnt even need describing. Its Independence day meets Godzilla, Meets the Gremlins. Its about everything but the transformers. Its about brave us military, the brave pilot that has a newborn baby, the outsider kid that wants to get a hot gir, an equaly hot girl that realises what noone else does the goverment, the secret goverment projects, the pun oooooh the pun and commedy of a teenager home, and all the things you can possible make important to avoid showing the main thing , the transformers.
This is not a new aproach to filmmaking. Its very spilbergesque in fact. Dont show the jaws in the first frame of the picture. Less means more etc. It works for many films and some of these films are among my favourite movies of all time. It doesnt work here, and it doesnt work cause the movie indeed has source meaterial. You can make a movie about alien robots or make godzilla 3 or whatever you want. Maybe then there would be sense in reviewing the film for its action value. But why Transformers? This is godzilla with giant robots with borrowed names from the transformers. I mean why didnt they use the names from He-Man or Charlie **** Brown. Its just a mindless stupidity galore with poor atemts of attaching pieces of what used to be the TFs on it. Its like a contemporary artist making a modern version of Mona Lisa by painting a porn orgy with 2 guys playing chess on top of it an then adding a leonardo sticker in the bottom just so that it bares at least some resemblance with the original intended to portray.
No there is no Transformers here. Theres good looking cinematography(even top-gun esque shots) , and some comedic performances that dont completly suck but they are thrown into this big mess of inconsistency and stupidity that its really hard to admire them. Its like michael bay was in the middle of making bad boys 3 and someone knocked on his door towards the last week of shooting and said : hay can you put the transformers in that movie, steve says its gonna rock the toy sales. And so he did. He put those things he hates and despizes there and tried to make them fit his film as much as they can and didnt make it work.
Laughing points: not from the atended humor. You know those moments in life where you feel so bad that you could puke and
then another tragedy hapens and its between a laugh and a puke and you just laugh out of your misery? Yeah i laughed so hard towards the end cause if i wasnt id prolly be crying. Hideous looking alien junk monster:Humans dont deserve to live!!! Monkey like can opener junk piece robot: Yes they Dooo! No they dont RAWWWWWWWR(jumps at the other piece of junk metal) At that point in the movie the ridiculousness of the entire movie just struck me and i started this enormous laughter which later left me with an ill feeling. Coordinates
get stuck on a pair of glasses!!!!!! My Word i mean MY WORD. What is that? Someone said superficial. Thats un understatement. Its not superficial its cardbord stereotyped characters brought to the extreme(and i mean every character) to such an extent that the movie borders parody. But then we all know its not so its tragic. Its like the script usen an AI program that goes a little like this:(Randomly insert hot chick, borrow the best joke from the tonights show, search movie database for interesting supporting roles but dont create much caus e the acting would be too demanding, insert more RANDOM hot chicks, delete any nerd transformers cartoon related bullshit, revive sub plots from deep impact and independence day, random insert action scenes, more action scenes, meessss beeep hot chick , lame humor, random action). You gotto admit with so many people pleased with the film the program is actually working. In fact i think you guys should all get it and become succseful screenwriters yourselves.
At the end of this big mess of a movie we hear the voice of the original optimus prime delivering some supposed noble and poetic lines that compared to many of his cartoon quotes are below par at best but they dont even do a below par job cause they are rendered sensless by the movie that just preceded them. I have seen courage in these humans!! AHAHAHAHHAHA . My god i couldnt believe it. Its just laugh out loud stuff.
So i considered not wathing this move at all after seeing the idiotic designs that should of made it clear to me that if someone considers these bug like mechanical creatures with milions of details on them to be good looking , hes not gonna make a good film. But i felt somehow oligated to watch it cause hay if a fan is not gonna watch it who is. So i started wtching with expectations of a brainless movie and despite my expectations it managed to disapoint me. For that i congratulate it. For that and for making me laugh. I guess an average or a just bad flm cant make you laugh so hard.
Non fim related i just to mention this cause someone said how optimus is now not perfect. He never was perfect thats one of the values of the original show. The show was concentrated on the transformers the humans were maggots. But through these transformers real human personalities were portrayed. This allowed the original creators to have a more adult themed show and present real and actual human personas in a more realistic light then any other cartoon show of the time, cause it could show death and get away with it, cause it could show war and get away with it. That and many other things to boot. You take this away from the series and or from the film and it has nothing. Not even the cool designs of the 80s could of replaced this lack of character. But here we have neither so needless to say the movie failed, cause it bares the name of something it has nothing to do with whatsoever.
And to all the people that start their post with : First of im a really big G1 fan, iv watched all that **** movie or series, whatever you say it was but lets face it those g1 chars really suck! Should i even mention you dont buy me with that crap for a microsecond!
Okay, look, the plot wasn't great. It's a toy commercial to these people. To fans, to us, it's legacy, it's magic. But to them? It's a toy commercial, and it shows. But did I hardcore nerdgasm tonight? I sure did. I mean, c'mon, the part when Optimus opens up his chest revealing part of the Matrix of Leadership is PURE GOLD. This is a Transformers movie, 200%.
See, MB's sense of action is pretty much impeccable here - is it as good as The Rock? No. Is it as good as Bad Boys 1? Better. Right there between Bad Boys and The Rock.
Did it hit the hype? For me, yes - I expected giant robots beating the sh*t out of each other, and an oppertunity to have a f*ckload of fun in the theatre. I got that. I applauded at least once every 10 minutes, along with the rest of the house. Kids around me screaming, "LOOK, IT'S MEGATRON!" That sort of thing makes you feel happy, feel excited. It's a fun movie, and it's one of those things that you just smile big and enjoy the ride.
It's definitely not disappointing - if you don't go in expecting a story. Go in expecting one Hell of a ride and a smile lasting for hours.
Is it exciting? YES. Is it funny? Cheesy, but yes - some relatively laugh out loud, audience pleaser moments there. Is it something where you can get attached to the characters, and really root for them and hollar for them? Yes. Is it open for a sequel? Wide open. Is it perfect?
Far from it. This thing had problems, yes - as I said, needed more Starscream. Needed less subplots (British technobabble subplot could have been totally erased.) Frenzy sucks - who the Hell came up with this piece of sh*t? If you want a little spy bot that does relatively nothing, bring in Laser Beak, damn it! Laser Beak, Rumble, Ravage, and Soundwave would've fit RIGHT in here.
What else did I like? Megatron's voice - after hearing Frank Welker in the game, I understand why they didn't use him - he sounds old. But Hugo Weaving fits the part - he works the character, and sounds like Welker - who doesn't reallly sound like his old self in the game. Jazz - what a great character! Just like in the series, and his entry quote is classic. However, they shouldn't have killed him - though I do think he'll be rebuilt by Ratchet, as described on the box of the Target exclusive G1 repaint.
I'm overall satisfied, and I'm probably going to see it again because I want a chance to nitpick it a bit more.
Oh, and the Cloverfield trailer - the one with the explosion and the Statue of Liberty's head. Yeah, that one. OH MY GOD I CAN'T WAIT FOR THIS MOVIE TO COME OUT.
One more thing I didn't like at all? Sam's parents. Should've been cut out. That entire scene where he's looking for the glasses? Cut that out.
Another thing I should've mentioned - a group of ILM guys who worked on the movie as animators were in the theatre tonight. Pretty neat.
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