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Official Movie Reviews Thread (Spoilers!)

Discuss anything and everything related to the Transformers Live Action Films franchise, which are directed by Michael Bay. Join us to discuss the movies and stuff up to date with news for the 2017 release of Transformers 5. Check out our Live Action Film section here.

Postby saxman727 » Sat Jul 07, 2007 7:48 pm

Here's my review take from my blog.

Source: http://dgrove.blogspot.com/2007/07/tran ... elmed.html

I saw the new Transformers movie Friday night. I have to say I was a little disappointed. I was with my friend, and I told him that it was going to be awesome. He said "we'll see", and then I jokingly told him that I'd have to hurt him if he dared say it wasn't good. I mean after all, Optimus Prime is in it! He's the man... or "bot" I guess I should say!

Initially I was surprised at how quickly the movie seemed to pick up, but it was only a temporary feeling. After the first hour, I still wasn't at the edge of my seat. I became rather bored watching it. It just wasn't very exciting. One problem was there was too much focus on the humans, and minimal focus on the transformers. There was also very minimal battle in the movie. Even the battle between Megatron and Optimus Prime left me feeling a little empty. Optimus Prime seemed to give up too easily, which is certainly not like him when you look at how he was in the original cartoon.

Finally, there was way too much hype throughout the movie. They tried way to hard to make it look "cool" when there wasn't much backbone there to begin with. I love humor, but they used it a little too often in the movie, and that in my opinion took away from the potentially "cool" feeling of the movie. The humor was more of a distraction than anything.

I won't tell you it's a bad movie -- I modestly liked it, but it wasn't at all what it's been hyped up to be. If you go to see it, lower your expectations slightly and I think you'll tend to like it more.

Oh, and ironically my friend thought it was absolutely great. Maybe I should kill him for saying that... I'll think on it.
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Postby YouFearGalvatron » Sat Jul 07, 2007 8:48 pm

Mechanurgist wrote:I went in to see the movie with low expectations, and Michael Bay managed to limbo underneath even those. What is wrong with this man? Half the movie is a mixture of terrible teen comedy and melodrama, there are three badly-intersected plotlines, my beloved transformers are turned into bad jokes tip-toeing around a rose garden like some demented ninjas in a Peter Sellers comedy, and there are about 15 too many human characters.

And the action; don't get me started. How could Bay screw this up so badly? It's supposed to be his specialty! Most of the time you can't even tell which autobot or decepticon is flying (or rolling, for some stupid reason) across the screen. The military scenes are decent but not much better than what you'd see in a military documentary. Most of the autobots, and many of the decepticons, are indistinguishable in their robot forms, so you never know if it was Jazz or Barricade who just got a missile to the face. Since I couldn't tell who was doing what to whom, I stopped caring. It all became a blur of moving machinery and random explosions. Is Bay the Jackson Pollock of action movies?

Apart from Bumblebee, Optimus and Frenzy most of the transformers have as much personality as a fruit stand. They might as well be drones. The original series, within the first 20 minutes, managed to convey more characterization than this entire 2 1/2 hour Bay epic. The focus on the NSA bimbo is even worse; she gets more air time than any of the robots! The editing in the whole movie is disjointed, uneven and one of the worst post-production jobs I've ever seen. Just when some of the action scenes start to get good we cut to another godawful domestic scene.

The Onion is quite right; Bay turned what should have been a great action movie into a teen comedy commercial.

5/10


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Postby Covenant » Sat Jul 07, 2007 10:28 pm

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I went, I saw, I considered. FYI, there's spoilers galore to follow.

First off, the theater was a madhouse. Packed to the brim. And the snack line was a nightmare I had to endure twice since I'm incapable of carrying two hotdogs, the big sized popcorn (which sadly tasted a bit burnt), two cokes and a box of BunchaCrunch (which was a bit old too, el yucko). Still, let me just say the film held enough of both my wife's & my own interest that neither of us took a pit stop until the credits were rolling (and if you're wondering, yes we'd stayed long enough to see LAM Starscream taking flight into the cosmos).

Now let me next say that when creating a film based on a preexisting media, the goal is to both make a film all can enjoy and remain true enough to the fiction you're adapting from. The designs present in the film indicate the latter was not done at all, about as on the mark as Chaney's quail hunting rifle. But before more on that note, I have to admit honestly that I liked (not loved) this movie a great deal. Not as much as I'd been hoping and certainly not to a degree I'd been wanting for years now (with a thought of big budget Transformers movie still nothing but an imagination), but to say I didn't like it or I hated it would be a flat out lie.

LaBeouf surprised the heck out of me. His character of "Sam Witwicky" was great and I enjoyed just about every second he was on the screen. Never saw that coming. The majority of actors hit their mark even through most of the cliche lines, the action was truly intense at moments, and I laughed at just about every single joke along with the rest of the packed-in audience. It was fun, and I mean that in every positive way possible. For example, when Cullen spoke through a faceplate-less Transformer and said, "My name is Optimus Prime," I gave out a loud & honest, "WOO!" which started a couple of seconds worth of hoots & hollers...which led to a few, "shut up"s. ^_^ Oops, but oops without regret. One thing; Hated BB's peeing thing. Probably the one joke I didn't even crack a smile at, mostly due to me just not finding it that funny. It got a few laughs from the crowd though.

The wifey loved it, and I mean she loved it. Chalk this one up to a favorite of hers I'd go so far to say. And keep in mind she's by no means some kind of Transformers fan, until now that is. In our four years of marriage she's never been so hungry to know info & trivia about TFs, and I'm really happy I had the IDW prequel stuff to help explain this new continuity. She dug all the Sam/Mikaela interactions, every last joke. I didn't catch everything, my spanish sucks, but all that "Jorge" (I think that was his name) said she got a kick out of, every word of it. I suppose the "boy & his car" angle worked well enough being as she thought is was both cool & sweet. Oh, and we both loved the parents. The scene where Sam & his mom and dad were rambling back & forth hilariously then Mikaela stood up? The parents reaction was one of my favorite funny moments of the film.

That said, the action oriented shaky camera method, at times, works great to put the feel of the explosive action into your senses, and I mean really nail it in there, but in the case of Michael Bay's Transformers there was far, far, far, far, far tooo much of it in many areas and I'd go so far as to say the ones that really counted. Couple that with the ludicrous amount of too-close-up shots when the Bots & Cons were battling and it's just a big cluster**** of motion. It's disappointing in the end as I really wanted to see just what these new Transformers could do, and after watching the film wide-eyed to make sure I caught every second I still feel like I wasn't privy to everything that happened.

The Decepticons were nothing more than cannon fodder, as suspected well over a year before Bay even came on to the project. And that's both a blessing and too bad at the same time. I'm rather fond of what I consider to be disappointing Cons (with the exception of Blackout & possibly Barricade) done away with so easily & thoroughly. But at the same time Decepticons aren't suppose to be just your throwaway bad guys, they've always been character driven what with their banter at one another & with the Autobots as they fought. I'd been hoping deep down, what with Orci giving false hopes at TFL off & on, there would have been a decent gathering scene of Cons providing at least some interaction. The brief words between LAM Megatron & LAM Starscream only left one wanting.

Hated Frenzy all the way through. I just don't get the minute amount of appeal of his spindly metal arse. Barricade though, that Decepticon grew on me quick. The quick interaction with Sam was bad to the bone. I'm nuts about the new Mustangs that have been coming out for the last few years, so a cop car Decepticon with a kickass paintjob, a slogan of "To punish & enslave", that turns into one and has a more than intense personality displayable within just a few seconds of dialogue is a slice of nice in my book. I don't know that I so much like his robotic design, but I certainly can see me getting into him in the end... ...that didn't sound right.

I want to love Starscream, I really do, but I just cannot get into his robotic mode. I can only hope some alterations will occur on him before he makes his way back to Earth in a sequel. Given Transformers are so toy driven & I don't see Hasbro selling the same Screamers toy twice in a row for the movie venture, there's hopefully that chance. His flight scene with the battling F-22s was impressive if not short-lived.

I love Blackout, other than the head design (which translated horribly onto the figure, an item already purchased btw). One thing though, near the end of the film, and I may just not have caught something right even though my eyes never left the screen; When Blackout had his blades weapon going in his hand, were his rotor blades still on his back?

The rest of the Cons were throwaway characters and sadly presented as such. Show up & die, all the way. Something on the tank though; I know the intent & toy release say Brawl (which is the perfect name for a tank Decepticon) and the film made the mistake of not changing that fictionally claimed placeholder name of Devastator, but it if were to come up, which would be the definitive name carried on? Brawl or Devastator? Which is law, the ticket seller or the toy purchase?

I'd have thought I'd have hated Megatron all around, and it's not the way it should be. So I'm happy that's not the way it is, entirely anyhoo. The only time you should hate a villain in a media is when he or she is just so damned villainous it gets to you a little bit perhaps, just a little in a "what if this guy really existed" sense of mind. That's not the case here. It's not that I love or really like this new Megatron, but it's more he's neither all that bad as expected. His texturing in the film was very well done and the inner workings looked nice enough that for something I still consider a very ugly design it was done quite well and looked far better than in any art or rendering seen prior. Still a bit bland on the aesthetics, too spiky as well, but not as bad as I thought. And yet, in the end, they might as well have gotten Welker to voice the character. Would have been a draw for me. You can neither tell it's Weaving nor would you expect the new Welker's Megatron to sound exactly like the old (much the case with Cullen/Prime) though in honesty it would still work for this new incarnation if you ask me.

Perhaps the biggest disappointment on the Decepticon tyrant comes from his demise in the film. With the bit of scene where Jazz pumps a couple of shots into Megatron with his advanced Cybertronian weaponry with no effect right before he's yanked in half with ease, the bit later where a few Earthen shots manage to somehow put this staggering affect & worried look on the supposed badass of badasses' mug is ridiculous. Don't quite get how pushing the Allspark Cube into a (painfully/ludicrously/stupidly overly exposed-in-bot-mode) Spark kills both mystical device of life and Transformer, but hey, Optimus seemed convinced & sadly he was right. Farewell Megatron, your apparently a hack of a tyrant that just got lucky until a teenager from Earth nailed you. Ugh. Seriously, I get that it was suppose to be a triumph for Sam and a "Go us!" moment for mankind in this film's Earth but when Sam almost casually thrust the Cube into Meg's chest, it proved to not only kill Megatron but to disappoint severely. King of Cons as throwaway as his minions.

As for the Autobots, eh, I'm 50/50 on them (and we're not talking designs for the mostpart).

It seemed the only time Prime talked was to say something heavily expositional or simply "the Cube", "the glasses", "the Cube", "the glasses", "the Cube", "the glasses". But, no lies here, I loved listening to every second of it. Still don't like the flames and I would have preferred less silver showing on Optimus' robotic form, but at least the film made that paintjob out to be coincidental. That works better for me, the reason provided in the film that is, over the actual reasoning of Bay just wanting the paintjob.

But here's the big shocker. As odd as it is to say so, I really liked Prime sans faceplate. And I mean I really, really liked it. Go figure. While items like the original toon Prime, the Marvel DW and IDW Prime, and Masterpiece Prime will forever be preferred with an iconic faceplate, I'm almost preferring this new incarnation without it. Quite bluntly, if the fairly impressive Optimus figure available in stores right now had a removable faceplate with a likeness matching what I saw in theaters, I would more than likely break my own collecting rule on "no TFs with the same name twice" and nab him..

...

..that figure in stores doesn't have a removable faceplate, does he?

BB, on the other hand, I'd have much preferred to keep that "battlemask" as his actual face the entire time. I'd been hoping since seeing a preview image of the battlemask down that the movie would have shown Sam naming him Bumblebee rather than that just being his name as said by Optimus, but that just didn't happen. Love the look of that new Camaro, even if I don't think it right for Bumblebee. And for the record I don't think BB should have been a VW Bug either.

Something I noticed in the way of inconsistencies, and maybe it was just me but I noticed right off the bat and caught it each time. Bumblebee's robot mode seemed to still be that of the old camaro well after the point in which he takes on the new Camaro form. I can't help but think the alteration scene was pushed up in the movie? And before we digress from LAM Bumblebee, what the heck was with him just up & speaking suddenly at the end??? Buh?!

Didn't care for Ironhide, who's southern-styled crimson incarnation remains a long time favorite of this Texan. The personality was undesirable to me & the voice far from impressive as a chosen update. I mean, couldn't put at least a little drawl on there? Jazz can go ghetto with words, but Ironhide can't have a little country? Heck, with how independent Cullen's new Prime voice is from the original, more John Wayne-like one, couldn't let him bust out with some Ironhide, switch it up a little? The man's got that kind of talent after all.

Ratchet almost started to grow on me a bit. Not the red & white doc I'd have cared for, but the emergency vehicle paint job (accurate enough to real life) was a decent take. Were the toy/figure representation of the character no so disappointing, I'd likely add him or his red & white repaint to my personal & modest collection as Ratchet. Still, I have to question his abilities as a doctor. In the prequel comics a simple crushing hand relieves BB of the ability to speak, and Ratchet can't fix it. "Still working on it," or some such he says. Jazz gets snapped in two and Ratchet can't save him. Like I said, almost started to grow on me a bit.

There were a few other things that didn't sit right, like all the coincidences, too many in fact. Especially with Bumblebee's reformatting. There just happened to be a concept car of the same brand name, same coloring, same stripes passing through the tunnel at the exact moment homegirl says something? Cheezy. Another thing was this Cube. I get that it's the new Vector Sigma, the new Matrix, in that it's the plot device being sought. But still; Anything created by this Allspark is just suddenly a monster robot that attacks everything? What's up with that? A couple of other things were Fox's delivery of "I'll drive, you shoot," and the pathetically cliche, "no matter what happens.." lines which were weak, way weak. And Sector 7 was a joke, Agent Simmons being a pathetic man in black, sorry. The little back & forth with Mr. Sector Seven & Sam just didn't feel like it worked onscreen, and I just feel like Turturro's heavily responsible. Or maybe it was both of them, though I can't recall thinking ill of Sam's speech there. If Optimus had broken down the deal to me, I know I'd be able to recite it later. ^_^ The two computer hackers/programmers, despite one being quite hilarious as usual, were throwaway characters set into throwaway roles that offered little to nothing to the film. Could have done without it, especially the "there's only one" line. There's never only one person in the world that can do anything, and if there was I doubt you'd find them in an American suburb.

Now the biggie. The designs. I gotta admit, those fairly ugly, undesirable, at times unsightly designs were spectacularly rendered & animated. But no matter how well lit & textured they were, they remain too busy in most TF's cases. The two biggest comments I keep hearing from folks, mostly outside of the fandom please keep in mind, is how fun & funny the movie was and how great the effects were. Did you catch that? The effects, as in level of visual quality, were great. Not so much on the design mentions.

When it comes to the Transformers aesthetics for the film, which are the biggest of the aspects of interests for both the film itself and the Transformers individually (because lets face it, explosions are explosions and characterization wasn't the biggest strong suit for everybody in the limelight of the flick) naturally, as expected, despite being open to being wrong, I was disappointed. There was absolutely no reason to redesign the characters this heavily.

You can say what you will about the hows & whys but the fact is (especially given the shaky camera throughout) the aesthetics used weren't necessary in the end. Such realistic texturing and lighting could easily have been applied to more recognizable designs and I doubt with every bit of ability I have that no one would have complained about it. Yet, on par, "that's not the way they decided to go".

But I guess many wouldn't pay attention to all that. Since I don't like the movie designs I must simply want a cg carbon copy of the original cartoon designs. Still. *Sigh* Some people.

So, in the end, do all the better points of this film make me feel any better about how it came to pass? Certainly not. Do I feel this indeed is the Transformers film awaited for over two decades, or even better, a TF movie that managed surpassed my long developed expectations? Not at all. Am I suddenly onboard the Bay-train from here on out? Probably never going to happen. But has Michael Bay managed to manufacture a brand spanking new Transformers universe that establishes itself? Many out there may not like the fact, but the answer is a resounding yes.

Michael Bay's Transformers is not the greatest movie of all time by far, but it's certainly one of the better ones I've seen in a while. If it was just a little less based on coincidence & convenience, it could have won me over in the end I suspect. After the disappointment of Venom in the recent Spiderman flick, Transformers didn't bring me down like I thought it would. With the cheez, the cliches, the action, the Bots versus Cons, the plot device sought, the robotic aliens speaking English, mass-shifting present after all, and many other items that were deemed detrimental & undesirable in an effort to discredit more traditional & certainly non-detrimental bits not to find their place in the film, this is more like the original Transformers material than I think the production team intended, and in all the ways I probably wouldn't have preferred. But for what it is, it works, and many fans out there should have no trouble getting into this new TF universe.

So, for being an introductory story for a brand new, entirely separated continuity/universe of Transformers, it's a good one and I'm honestly interested. Even if the guy that made it has a severe lack of respect for prior incarnations & lack of care for the fans those incarnations produced. Or maybe it's a lack of care with his words in interviews in the end. Bay's Transformers are certainly not what I wanted, not what I would've cared for, and not even something outside of what I would prefer that remains in something more akin to what the film's nostalgia factor played off of. But what it is is fun, exciting at times, interesting other times, and something within the franchise of my interest that I can now share with my wife, a woman that's always respected my hobby but never been into it until now. When the DVD hits, as the boy's too young for theater sitting (we've tried), my little boy will no doubt be all that more into what glimpses he's caught in various commercials. It's, surprising as it is for me to feel this way right now, not just another Bay movie, it's a Bay movie. Sans the "just".

This flick is not The Transformers as we've known them. No matter the preference, it is what it is and it stands among the other continuities dating from '84 to now on its own merits as such. This is a new reality of Earth, one that until the just passed release date was a modern society untouched by Transformers. The ones that arrived weren't incarnations of the comics or the cartoons or even the toys with their tech specs. This is the adaptation of ideas and elements that are based in various core elements of the 80's cartoon and comic Transformers as well as the Transformers we've applied the label of "G1" to in the past as they were/are. The amount of "based on" will likely forever remain controversial among the fans, but Bayformers have undoubtedly made their mark.


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Postby Bender Prime » Sat Jul 07, 2007 11:04 pm

Saw it for the third time last night, and I enjoyed it more than the second time. Just such a fun film.

Still, all these cinema tickets and overpriced popcorn are hurting my wallet! But it's worth it.

Prime is just so damn cool. When he looks out over that landscape in the last shot of the film and says something along the lines of 'My name is Optimus Prime, and I send this message to all autobots taking refuge amongst the stars... We are here, we are waiting' - I get chills down my spine, THAT is effing Prime! Can't wait for the sequel.
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Postby YouFearGalvatron » Sat Jul 07, 2007 11:07 pm

Bender Prime wrote:Saw it for the third time last night, and I enjoyed it more than the second time. Just such a fun film.

Still, all these cinema tickets and overpriced popcorn are hurting my wallet! But it's worth it.

Prime is just so damn cool. When he looks out over that landscape in the last shot of the film and says something along the lines of 'My name is Optimus Prime, and I send this message to all autobots taking refuge amongst the stars... We are here, we are waiting' - I get chills down my spine, THAT is effing Prime! Can't wait for the sequel.


That was one of the few great moments in the film. On this, we agree.

Peter Cullen's VAing was very good. He put his soul into the film, it was very obvious.
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Postby Jetstreamx » Sun Jul 08, 2007 2:39 am

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I'll make it a simple review. I loved the movie, but the climax of it was too anti-climatic. And Sam's mom is an idiot.
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Postby Skowl » Sun Jul 08, 2007 10:09 am

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tile_mcgillus wrote:The number of weird racist things in this movie:
1. Indian stereotype *edited*phone*edited* operator
2. Bernie Mac threatening physical violence against his "classy" Momma.
3. The Black hacker living with his momma and being lazy playing video games. Then the guys running from the cops.
4. "Iranian scientists are too stupid to figure this out..."
5. Every single stereotypical thing that came out of Jazz's mouth.
6. "WE DONT SPEAK SPANISH! STOP IT!"

I am not just searching these things out here. I know Tyrese's character is strong and a warrior and the smartest hacker in the world is Anthony Anderson. However, AA never says anything intelligent and just eats donuts and cries.


I think you're reading too much into this. If you truely believe this, then by your account, Star Wars is racist. Star Trek is racist. Hell, even Spaceballs would be racist. Come on, it's ok to not like the movie, but to see things and call them racist is insane. Step back, and ease up a bit. Hate the flick all you want, but don't accuse it of being something it isn't.


I understand what you are saying. I was just pointing out those things together. I am not calling anyone racist but just noticing the weird things that play into stereotypes. It was interesting that all of those things appeared in the same movie. I probably should have used the word stereotypical.


I'll agree. It's probably my biggest complaint about the film (aside from monkey-lips on Prime) is his use of stereotypes for cheap laughs (like in most of his other films). Bay especially has a bad habit of portraying hispanics in a bad light (Bad Boys I & II, now Transformers). They're just cheap laughs pandering to the lowest common denominator. Stuff like that should never have been in the film, especially with the raging debate in the US on immigration - and if it did end up in the film, it should have been cut to make room for more robots.
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Postby Sentinel Pax » Sun Jul 08, 2007 10:54 am

The Hispanic wasn't used for laughs, he was simply a soldier who tended to slip into Spanish when he spoke. There was nothing racist about it at all. As for Anthony Anderson, his role was a little weak, in its practicality, but he made me laugh, which is all that matters, because that's what he was there to do. I wish his line from the T.V. spots was in it, though, because I laughed a lot at that.
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Postby ishmael » Sun Jul 08, 2007 12:53 pm

:CON: where was barricade in the last fight?
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Postby Friend of Da Panda Symbol » Sun Jul 08, 2007 3:31 pm

My take on the movie--Superb overall--Have gone to see it 3 times since 7/4 (The few things I didn't like outweighed the good)

Pros--

O.P. (Some award won or nomination for best supporting actor or V/A somewhere for P.C., please!) I could go on and on and on about Prime being aboslutely adorable but I'm an O.P/P.C fanatic. Learning I would be hearing THAT voice in this film was enough to send me rushing to theater via cab. (Was my "ear-candy", btw--ssssh.). The scene where he arrives in truck mode for the gathering of the team nearly brought a tear to my eye at the first viewing.

Sam--Typical down to earth, VERY FUNNY teenager. His detainment at the Police station is hands down is the funniest scene in the movie.

Maggie--Way less annoying than the know-it-all girl scientist that I've seen in way too many movies. I wish she
had been the one driving while BB did the shooting. In sequel, Bay, in sequel!

All the soldiers who survive the intial Decepticon rout. Loved their participation in the final battle and especially how the guy who had a child he had never seen wanted evil helicopter dead! Bring all these guys back for part II!!

SAM&BB -- Too cute and very, very ET-esque loved it.

Megatron--Was very disappointed with Bay for not choosing Welker but Hugo Weaving was better than I expected. Megatron in this film was also way more chilling than the one in G1. The part where he's talking to Sam while chasing after him: "I may keep you as my pet" and his plucking the running human away--yikes

Mojo--I own a Chihuahua.

Cons

The Decpticons. Except for Frenzy and Megatron--Zilch character development beyond causing chaos and destroying things. The infamously treacherous arrogant Starscream is nothing short of a fly-on aimable cameo. Regarding the rest of them I am still a bit confused who was who. More character developement for the Decepticons the next time around.

Jazz's fate-- :-x He best be back somehow in the sequel, Bay. I'll even take something ludicrous.

Prime's Mouth--Why not human lips on a lips not full at all instead of the trip to gorilla-ville? I had no choice but to focus on the voice coming out.

Bumblebee--Save his cute eyes--The horror, the horror!

Maggie--Too much Mikela and not enough of her. After the Frenzy attack she drops out the scene. She's one of the few humans I wish big time would return in the sequel.

Mikela--had more character and was more resourceful than I thought she would be but did we really need the to-the-guys fan service with her first get-up? Did the girl fans get any? I don't remember seeing Sam shirtless. Was he? Somebody correct me if I'm mistaken. Also did we need the ridiculously (sp) predictable love story angle that pulled so much away from developing the robot characters except for 3?

Sam's Parents--Stupid incarnate. Except the scene where father and son are picking out a car, at the police station and swapping the fist thing with Sam, he's a slap in the face to G1's Sparkplug. Though funny he's also comes off super lawn-loving, bumbling and clueless. As for Mommy, don't get me started! After they're carted of by the government people, we don't see them any more until the end credits where their dialogue made me wince. Where they saying this because they are hiding what they know about the alien robots or been hiding in a bunker for a month? I lay the uncertainty at Bay's door--Clear this up in the sequel!!!

Mojo--Where is he after the feds cart him off? I don't recall seeing him in the those end credits with the parents.

Not one V/A after the main stars in the credits. What in the world were the credit listers thinking????? We came to see the Robots of "Our War" not the human's of "their world"!
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Postby Sentinel Pax » Sun Jul 08, 2007 10:34 pm

Friend of Da Panda Symbol wrote:Mojo--Where is he after the feds cart him off? I don't recall seeing him in the those end credits with the parents.
Mojo was exposed to the Allspark by Sam's mom with the hope that his leg would be healed. Instead he turned into Movie Wheelie.
Friend of Da Panda Symbol wrote:Not one V/A after the main stars in the credits. What in the world were the credit listers thinking?????
I find this really depressing. I don't mind listing the big namers first, but by God, give Cullen and the others their dues! The man is literally a VA legend, and most of the others, if I recall, aren't strangers to the VA world, either. Give them some respect, li'l bitches (to quote Jazz). Sorry, I had to say that.
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Re: Official Movie Reviews Thread (Spoilers!)

Postby KoH4711 » Mon Jul 09, 2007 3:26 am

Sentinel Pax wrote:Not one V/A after the main stars in the credits. What in the world were the credit listers thinking?????
I find this really depressing. I don't mind listing the big namers first, but by God, give Cullen and the others their dues! The man is literally a VA legend, and most of the others, if I recall, aren't strangers to the VA world, either. Give them some respect, li'l bitches (to quote Jazz). Sorry, I had to say that.[/quote]

I agree, but this has a lot more to do with what's in each actor's contract than anything else. I forget which movie this was in, but there's a story of one producer raising a fit because, in the opening credits, another producer on the film had his credit come up as a major cue in the opening score came up. For Transformers, if memory serves, Tyrese Gibson is second up in the end credits cast listing. I liked Epps, but in terms of importance to the film, he wasn't the #2 guy.
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Postby Wolfguard » Mon Jul 09, 2007 4:26 am

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Skowl wrote:...probably my biggest complaint about the film (aside from monkey-lips on Prime) is his use of stereotypes for cheap laughs (like in most of his other films). Bay especially has a bad habit of portraying hispanics in a bad light (Bad Boys I & II, now Transformers). They're just cheap laughs pandering to the lowest common denominator. Stuff like that should never have been in the film, especially with the raging debate in the US on immigration - and if it did end up in the film, it should have been cut to make room for more robots.

Well I'm half Mexican, the girl I was with is 100% Mexican, and I don't believe either of us had any issue with the Spanish speaking guy. Seriously, if you're "Hispanic" and were offended, then that's fine if that's how you feel. If you're not, well, I don't think my date nor myself need people to be offended for us.


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Postby roguecds » Mon Jul 09, 2007 4:35 am

Hanch Prime wrote:unfortunately in most movies you can only really flesh out a few characters. Bumblebee has a nice progression, I hated the cartoon version he was just a pussy. This bumblebee is actually cool. Sam is developed really well. Then you have the supporting characters that are some what developed like Prime and Megan Fox. also too I thought Sam's parents (especially Mom) were hilarious. But the theme of the movie is a boy and his car and Sam and Bumblebee are the main characters.

There was not enough time to develop every character, In a series you can develop every character over a course of a few episodes and by concentrating on a certain character in a particular episode. I think the movie did a good job of developing the key characters. It's a very entertaining movie and was allot of fun. Thats the way it should be. Now that it's made 122 million already and its not even into its first weekend, we know we will get sequels so the characters can progress more.


I've been "burned" so many times by comic book and toon franchise films that by the time this film came out; I had NO ILLUSIONS :-? I did'nt believe any of the BS Bay/Orci/Murphy said. I was glad they put Cullen in the film but figured that the cast of G1 and Cullen were the only 'twinkies' we'd get. So none of things I guess that are pissing you guys off, are pissing me off.

:P They sure did when I saw XMEN, HULK, SUPERMAN RETURNS, BATMAN 3,4,5 ELEKTRA DAREDEVIL all those films aggravated me to no end? Other incarnations at least tried to give the 'true fan' their kudos in many ways; for what Batman, Batman Forever, Christopher Reeves "Superman", Batman Begins, V 4 Vendetta and even Spiderman lacked in Action/Special Effects/Explosions it more than made up for it character development;story-telling, or by being "true to their comic roots' or toon serials".

As for TRANSFORMERS GEN X 07 like I said I enjoyed for what it was a kick ass action movie that brought back alot of memories. 8) I am now Densentized, I enjoyed Spid. 1,2,3, as well as GhostRider, and will likely enjoy IronMan when it comes out. One thing you guys are Right about the Action Fight Scenes Do Move A little Too Fast: Its hard to See what's happening unless you know its coming. Bay should've slowed down the fight scenes like they do in Jet Li movies. . . :lol:
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Postby Tusko » Mon Jul 09, 2007 7:39 am

I watched the movie and was unimpressed by the film making.

I left frustrated and the changes in the POV were offsetting. The action from the ground level was confusing and I wanted more shots that pulled back to show the action.

It wasn't good, but it wasn't bad. I think all the elements for making it good are in there somewhere but the way things were put together on film resulted in an experience I didn't like.

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Postby Sunstar » Mon Jul 09, 2007 6:00 pm

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I saw the movie today. Matinee so there were about 15 people in the theater with me. That's the way I like it. I despise crowds.

In general the movie was fun but for me to say I loved it...naw, I didn't love it. I only enjoyed it.

It had fun CG effects, action and great humour but that is it. I am not saying this because it is not G1. In many respects it is much like G1. I just have to be wowed more than I was. So far, nothing has given me fangasms as much as LOTR the Return of the King—that was awesome.

It was like G1 in that it had some odd humour and had the plot holes you could drive a semi through. I found the transformers movie a bit disjointed and hard to follow. Particularly during the big battle scene where everyone looked alike and it was tough to tell who was who.

I found the method of filming the movie a bit unpleasant. Not sure what it is called... shaky cam perhaps. I found it a bit difficult to figure out what was going on because the cam was moving all around. This made it tough to figure out who was who.

There was a bit too much human element in it. I do not like romance...well sappy romance. I recalled myself icking at one spot in the movie. LOTR has romance in it, but it does not seem to be the main story behind it and I could ignore it.

I found it interesting with the Decepticon subtitles in the movie but I actually missed what Starscream said. It was too much going on. Despite his Monkey Scream appearance, and yes I still say that he does look a bit ape like...and pigeon like...His moves were pretty slick and his aerial fighting also slick. I am disappointed he played such a minor role...I would have enjoyed more of his fighting.

It was hilarious at times and I will say I did enjoy the humour.

Pros:

Humour
Transformer like characters
Ironhide and wanting to terminate parents and dog.
Action
Special Effects
Jets
Frenzy

Cons:

Poor character development.
Not enough Big fragging robots
Human Element
Romance
Plot Holes
Badly filmed (shaky cam)
Not enough Starscream
Difficulty in figuring out who was who in battle


I will get this on DVD, but I will not see it again in theatre. I will not say it sucked—that's not me, but I did feel it could have been much MUCH better. It was what I expected.

Its a good movie and I recommend anyone seeing it at least once.

Tusko wrote:I watched the movie and was unimpressed by the film making.

I left frustrated and the changes in the POV were offsetting. The action from the ground level was confusing and I wanted more shots that pulled back to show the action.

It wasn't good, but it wasn't bad. I think all the elements for making it good are in there somewhere but the way things were put together on film resulted in an experience I didn't like.



Yes I agree with you on this. But I would recommend folk ot see it at least once.
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Postby galvason » Tue Jul 10, 2007 2:43 am

Hey i sorta wrote up a fan scrip for the sequel, it involves Soundwave! he turns into a comunications tower and intercepts primes transmission and then reports to Shockwave, also if they dont include Galvatron in the sequel i will be annoyed.



(I know about everyone will disagree with me on the Galvatron issue but any way)
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Postby YouFearGalvatron » Tue Jul 10, 2007 9:34 am

galvason wrote:Hey i sorta wrote up a fan scrip for the sequel, it involves Soundwave! he turns into a comunications tower and intercepts primes transmission and then reports to Shockwave, also if they dont include Galvatron in the sequel i will be annoyed.



(I know about everyone will disagree with me on the Galvatron issue but any way)


Not me, bring on Galvatron!

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Postby moonwalker » Tue Jul 10, 2007 9:28 pm

What i dont get is why the people that didnt like the film pick on some stupid details and brand that as the worst part of the movie when the flick is so bad it doesnt even need describing. Its Independence day meets Godzilla, Meets the Gremlins. Its about everything but the transformers. Its about brave us military, the brave pilot that has a newborn baby, the outsider kid that wants to get a hot gir, an equaly hot girl that realises what noone else does the goverment, the secret goverment projects, the pun oooooh the pun and commedy of a teenager home, and all the things you can possible make important to avoid showing the main thing , the transformers.
This is not a new aproach to filmmaking. Its very spilbergesque in fact. Dont show the jaws in the first frame of the picture. Less means more etc. It works for many films and some of these films are among my favourite movies of all time. It doesnt work here, and it doesnt work cause the movie indeed has source meaterial. You can make a movie about alien robots or make godzilla 3 or whatever you want. Maybe then there would be sense in reviewing the film for its action value. But why Transformers? This is godzilla with giant robots with borrowed names from the transformers. I mean why didnt they use the names from He-Man or Charlie **** Brown. Its just a mindless stupidity galore with poor atemts of attaching pieces of what used to be the TFs on it. Its like a contemporary artist making a modern version of Mona Lisa by painting a porn orgy with 2 guys playing chess on top of it an then adding a leonardo sticker in the bottom just so that it bares at least some resemblance with the original intended to portray.
No there is no Transformers here. Theres good looking cinematography(even top-gun esque shots) , and some comedic performances that dont completly suck but they are thrown into this big mess of inconsistency and stupidity that its really hard to admire them. Its like michael bay was in the middle of making bad boys 3 and someone knocked on his door towards the last week of shooting and said : hay can you put the transformers in that movie, steve says its gonna rock the toy sales. And so he did. He put those things he hates and despizes there and tried to make them fit his film as much as they can and didnt make it work.

Laughing points: not from the atended humor. You know those moments in life where you feel so bad that you could puke and
then another tragedy hapens and its between a laugh and a puke and you just laugh out of your misery? Yeah i laughed so hard towards the end cause if i wasnt id prolly be crying. Hideous looking alien junk monster:Humans dont deserve to live!!! Monkey like can opener junk piece robot: Yes they Dooo! No they dont RAWWWWWWWR(jumps at the other piece of junk metal) At that point in the movie the ridiculousness of the entire movie just struck me and i started this enormous laughter which later left me with an ill feeling. Coordinates
get stuck on a pair of glasses!!!!!! My Word i mean MY WORD. What is that? Someone said superficial. Thats un understatement. Its not superficial its cardbord stereotyped characters brought to the extreme(and i mean every character) to such an extent that the movie borders parody. But then we all know its not so its tragic. Its like the script usen an AI program that goes a little like this:(Randomly insert hot chick, borrow the best joke from the tonights show, search movie database for interesting supporting roles but dont create much caus e the acting would be too demanding, insert more RANDOM hot chicks, delete any nerd transformers cartoon related bullshit, revive sub plots from deep impact and independence day, random insert action scenes, more action scenes, meessss beeep hot chick , lame humor, random action). You gotto admit with so many people pleased with the film the program is actually working. In fact i think you guys should all get it and become succseful screenwriters yourselves.

At the end of this big mess of a movie we hear the voice of the original optimus prime delivering some supposed noble and poetic lines that compared to many of his cartoon quotes are below par at best but they dont even do a below par job cause they are rendered sensless by the movie that just preceded them. I have seen courage in these humans!! AHAHAHAHHAHA . My god i couldnt believe it. Its just laugh out loud stuff.

So i considered not wathing this move at all after seeing the idiotic designs that should of made it clear to me that if someone considers these bug like mechanical creatures with milions of details on them to be good looking , hes not gonna make a good film. But i felt somehow oligated to watch it cause hay if a fan is not gonna watch it who is. So i started wtching with expectations of a brainless movie and despite my expectations it managed to disapoint me. For that i congratulate it. For that and for making me laugh. I guess an average or a just bad flm cant make you laugh so hard.

Non fim related i just to mention this cause someone said how optimus is now not perfect. He never was perfect thats one of the values of the original show. The show was concentrated on the transformers the humans were maggots. But through these transformers real human personalities were portrayed. This allowed the original creators to have a more adult themed show and present real and actual human personas in a more realistic light then any other cartoon show of the time, cause it could show death and get away with it, cause it could show war and get away with it. That and many other things to boot. You take this away from the series and or from the film and it has nothing. Not even the cool designs of the 80s could of replaced this lack of character. But here we have neither so needless to say the movie failed, cause it bares the name of something it has nothing to do with whatsoever.

And to all the people that start their post with : First of im a really big G1 fan, iv watched all that **** movie or series, whatever you say it was but lets face it those g1 chars really suck! Should i even mention you dont buy me with that crap for a microsecond!
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Postby YouFearGalvatron » Tue Jul 10, 2007 9:55 pm

moonwalker wrote:What i dont get is why the people that didnt like the film pick on some stupid details and brand that as the worst part of the movie when the flick is so bad it doesnt even need describing. Its Independence day meets Godzilla, Meets the Gremlins. Its about everything but the transformers. Its about brave us military, the brave pilot that has a newborn baby, the outsider kid that wants to get a hot gir, an equaly hot girl that realises what noone else does the goverment, the secret goverment projects, the pun oooooh the pun and commedy of a teenager home, and all the things you can possible make important to avoid showing the main thing , the transformers.
This is not a new aproach to filmmaking. Its very spilbergesque in fact. Dont show the jaws in the first frame of the picture. Less means more etc. It works for many films and some of these films are among my favourite movies of all time. It doesnt work here, and it doesnt work cause the movie indeed has source meaterial. You can make a movie about alien robots or make godzilla 3 or whatever you want. Maybe then there would be sense in reviewing the film for its action value. But why Transformers? This is godzilla with giant robots with borrowed names from the transformers. I mean why didnt they use the names from He-Man or Charlie **** Brown. Its just a mindless stupidity galore with poor atemts of attaching pieces of what used to be the TFs on it. Its like a contemporary artist making a modern version of Mona Lisa by painting a porn orgy with 2 guys playing chess on top of it an then adding a leonardo sticker in the bottom just so that it bares at least some resemblance with the original intended to portray.
No there is no Transformers here. Theres good looking cinematography(even top-gun esque shots) , and some comedic performances that dont completly suck but they are thrown into this big mess of inconsistency and stupidity that its really hard to admire them. Its like michael bay was in the middle of making bad boys 3 and someone knocked on his door towards the last week of shooting and said : hay can you put the transformers in that movie, steve says its gonna rock the toy sales. And so he did. He put those things he hates and despizes there and tried to make them fit his film as much as they can and didnt make it work.

Laughing points: not from the atended humor. You know those moments in life where you feel so bad that you could puke and
then another tragedy hapens and its between a laugh and a puke and you just laugh out of your misery? Yeah i laughed so hard towards the end cause if i wasnt id prolly be crying. Hideous looking alien junk monster:Humans dont deserve to live!!! Monkey like can opener junk piece robot: Yes they Dooo! No they dont RAWWWWWWWR(jumps at the other piece of junk metal) At that point in the movie the ridiculousness of the entire movie just struck me and i started this enormous laughter which later left me with an ill feeling. Coordinates
get stuck on a pair of glasses!!!!!! My Word i mean MY WORD. What is that? Someone said superficial. Thats un understatement. Its not superficial its cardbord stereotyped characters brought to the extreme(and i mean every character) to such an extent that the movie borders parody. But then we all know its not so its tragic. Its like the script usen an AI program that goes a little like this:(Randomly insert hot chick, borrow the best joke from the tonights show, search movie database for interesting supporting roles but dont create much caus e the acting would be too demanding, insert more RANDOM hot chicks, delete any nerd transformers cartoon related bullshit, revive sub plots from deep impact and independence day, random insert action scenes, more action scenes, meessss beeep hot chick , lame humor, random action). You gotto admit with so many people pleased with the film the program is actually working. In fact i think you guys should all get it and become succseful screenwriters yourselves.

At the end of this big mess of a movie we hear the voice of the original optimus prime delivering some supposed noble and poetic lines that compared to many of his cartoon quotes are below par at best but they dont even do a below par job cause they are rendered sensless by the movie that just preceded them. I have seen courage in these humans!! AHAHAHAHHAHA . My god i couldnt believe it. Its just laugh out loud stuff.

So i considered not wathing this move at all after seeing the idiotic designs that should of made it clear to me that if someone considers these bug like mechanical creatures with milions of details on them to be good looking , hes not gonna make a good film. But i felt somehow oligated to watch it cause hay if a fan is not gonna watch it who is. So i started wtching with expectations of a brainless movie and despite my expectations it managed to disapoint me. For that i congratulate it. For that and for making me laugh. I guess an average or a just bad flm cant make you laugh so hard.

Non fim related i just to mention this cause someone said how optimus is now not perfect. He never was perfect thats one of the values of the original show. The show was concentrated on the transformers the humans were maggots. But through these transformers real human personalities were portrayed. This allowed the original creators to have a more adult themed show and present real and actual human personas in a more realistic light then any other cartoon show of the time, cause it could show death and get away with it, cause it could show war and get away with it. That and many other things to boot. You take this away from the series and or from the film and it has nothing. Not even the cool designs of the 80s could of replaced this lack of character. But here we have neither so needless to say the movie failed, cause it bares the name of something it has nothing to do with whatsoever.

And to all the people that start their post with : First of im a really big G1 fan, iv watched all that **** movie or series, whatever you say it was but lets face it those g1 chars really suck! Should i even mention you dont buy me with that crap for a microsecond!


Wow. Just. Wow.

I did not like the film, but I did not hate it as you do.

That said, you make many, many VALID points.

For this, I congratulate you, and welcome to Seibertron.com!
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Postby iuchewie » Wed Jul 11, 2007 1:40 pm

ok... will take this step by step and try not to spoil the story. please keep in mind that i saw this in a DLP theatre so it was essentially like watching a high definition version of the movie.

first off... this is NOT a kids movie. yeah yeah yeah, i know that it's based on the kids toys from the early 80's but this is a serious action movie (or as serious as one can get basing a story on robots from another planet that transform into other objects)

this LOOKS like a michael bay movie from the beginning. for those of you that aren't familiar with his work, he directed bad boys, the rock, armageddon & pearl harbor. (also note that i'm super excited that the next movie has already been approved for 2009)

if you're looking for the cartoon storyline you're going to be dissapointed. gone is the story of the matrix of leadership and the cybertronian wars. while they do make reference to cybertron the reason that they are on earth to begin with is completely different from the cartoon storylines. i won't go into it here, but suffice to say it's pretty much just a macguffin.

the transformers - overall i think they looked great. there actually aren't THAT many characters in the movie. of course you've got optimus prime, bumblebee, megatron & starscream, but you're missing some of my favorites including soundwave (who i hear is going to be in the next flick). the transformation sequences are done REALLY well and you even get to hear the tell-tale transform noise a couple of times.

they brought back peter cullen as the voice of optimus prime which is SO **** COOL ITS NOT EVEN FUNNY. yes, i'm a geek and a fanboy, but it was so worth it.

the humans

Shia LaBeouf plays an awesome character though it seems as if he's talking in **** warp speed for most of the movie. i'm guessing that his character is based on "spike" from the cartoons, but the link is never clearly made.

Megan Fox is **** SMOKING and get hotter as the damn movie goes on. i woudl LOVE to be the dude that's in charge of spraying her with water so it appears as if she's sweating... are you **** kidding me? hot

Josh Duhamel (danny from nbc's las vegas) was in there to get the teenie bopper girl fans. his particular story line was pretty overdone if you ask me - hence the reason we've got a 2.5 hour plus action movie - but i'm a fan of las vegas so i was pulling for the character.

Rachael Taylor is in the movie pretty much just to be hot i think... nuff said.

visuals - as i said before it looked like a mike bay flick and overall it looked awesome. the battle scenes were done really well, and there was nothing "toyish" about the transformers themselves. the one BIG BITCH that i had about the movie was some of the camera angles. the last battle scene is about 30-40 minutes long - and it's shot with the "shaky camera" (think the first 20 minutes of saving private ryan and you've got it). it was so bad that i actually had to look away at one point, but that MAY have been due to the theatre i was in.

ok, i've rambled on long enough, but i'd give this flick a STRONG 4/5 stars... well worth the $$$, especially if you were a fan of a the cartoon (though definitely not necessary)
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Postby Wheeljack35 » Wed Jul 11, 2007 1:56 pm

All I got to say is I LOVED this movie and its refernces to G1

I want to see it again
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Postby ralphatron » Thu Jul 12, 2007 9:05 pm

I actually enjoyed the shaky camera for the most part because it made me feel like I was in the action. Just imagine how messed up your point of view would be if you were really in that situation.

There were things I didn't care for, like the whole "I'm Josh Duhamel and I'm gonna slide under Blackout's crotch and shoot'im in the cyber-nutties." That was lame and I saw it coming from a mile away. Mostly I try not to over-analyze and pick it apart because it's not going to change it and in the end I'll probably enjoy it less if I do that. There are some movies that get better the more you analyze them, but this isn't one of them. This movie is just plain fun. I have too much invested in this franchise to sabotage my love for these geeky toys and cartoons.

Overall, I thought it was a great movie and I can say that I loved it. Personally, I didn't expect a big plot and really didn't want one. I wanted action and robots that turned into stuff. I got it. Very pleased and can't wait for the sequels.

The best part of the movie is that people actually died. Nobody ever died in the cartoon. There was huge robots and lasers everywhere and nobody died. What is the real threat if there's no death toll.

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Postby tricky » Sat Jul 14, 2007 1:57 am

After waiting so long for this movie to actually be made, i don't think i could actually claim dissapointment at any rate. It was exactly what i thought it would be and is almost stupid to discuss it. I could have done with a little less product placement. Come on, you never see anyone just walking down the street with an xbox 360. At least throw in a best buy bag or something so i can believe it.
Going in i knew i would see lots of explosions cause michael bay loves to blow stuff up. Also i would see a scantily clad megan fox. I almost convinced my friend who refuses to still watch star wars to go see it on account of her. Lots of giant robots transforming and fighting all over the place is also a plus. No surprises really. Can't wait to see it at home. Lately i have had trouble watching movies with lots of cg effects in the theatres. It looks like the frame rate is noticably different on the cg objects than real objects. Its probably due to my movie theatre being new but not that new or it is that i have a lazy eye or is that i sit way to close to multiple monitors all the time. i will never know cause i don't care that much cause i hate theatres.
Good movie all around. Best i will see this year to say the least. Would have probably enjoyed it a little more in 2005 or 2006. Obviously will never see it as much as the g1 movie though, It is just not possible. It will be a little easier to memorize this one word for word though. Very predicable dialog but again megan fox=hot. I got to give it to her over arcee.
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Postby PrimeSuspect » Sat Jul 14, 2007 3:04 am

Here's what I posted on another board when I saw it last Monday:

Okay, look, the plot wasn't great. It's a toy commercial to these people. To fans, to us, it's legacy, it's magic. But to them? It's a toy commercial, and it shows. But did I hardcore nerdgasm tonight? I sure did. I mean, c'mon, the part when Optimus opens up his chest revealing part of the Matrix of Leadership is PURE GOLD. This is a Transformers movie, 200%.

See, MB's sense of action is pretty much impeccable here - is it as good as The Rock? No. Is it as good as Bad Boys 1? Better. Right there between Bad Boys and The Rock.

Did it hit the hype? For me, yes - I expected giant robots beating the sh*t out of each other, and an oppertunity to have a f*ckload of fun in the theatre. I got that. I applauded at least once every 10 minutes, along with the rest of the house. Kids around me screaming, "LOOK, IT'S MEGATRON!" That sort of thing makes you feel happy, feel excited. It's a fun movie, and it's one of those things that you just smile big and enjoy the ride.

It's definitely not disappointing - if you don't go in expecting a story. Go in expecting one Hell of a ride and a smile lasting for hours.

Is it exciting? YES. Is it funny? Cheesy, but yes - some relatively laugh out loud, audience pleaser moments there. Is it something where you can get attached to the characters, and really root for them and hollar for them? Yes. Is it open for a sequel? Wide open. Is it perfect?

Far from it. This thing had problems, yes - as I said, needed more Starscream. Needed less subplots (British technobabble subplot could have been totally erased.) Frenzy sucks - who the Hell came up with this piece of sh*t? If you want a little spy bot that does relatively nothing, bring in Laser Beak, damn it! Laser Beak, Rumble, Ravage, and Soundwave would've fit RIGHT in here.

What else did I like? Megatron's voice - after hearing Frank Welker in the game, I understand why they didn't use him - he sounds old. But Hugo Weaving fits the part - he works the character, and sounds like Welker - who doesn't reallly sound like his old self in the game. Jazz - what a great character! Just like in the series, and his entry quote is classic. However, they shouldn't have killed him - though I do think he'll be rebuilt by Ratchet, as described on the box of the Target exclusive G1 repaint.

I'm overall satisfied, and I'm probably going to see it again because I want a chance to nitpick it a bit more.

Oh, and the Cloverfield trailer - the one with the explosion and the Statue of Liberty's head. Yeah, that one. OH MY GOD I CAN'T WAIT FOR THIS MOVIE TO COME OUT.

One more thing I didn't like at all? Sam's parents. Should've been cut out. That entire scene where he's looking for the glasses? Cut that out.

Another thing I should've mentioned - a group of ILM guys who worked on the movie as animators were in the theatre tonight. Pretty neat.


And as I mentioned in the review, the ILM animators were in the theatre. There were about 16 or 17 of them. Pretty freaking awesome to talk with them in line before the show. We didn't talk much about the actual movie though, just the fandom and the hype surrouding the movie, and the old cartoons.
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