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Postby Robinson » Sun Jul 01, 2007 6:40 pm

Spoon wrote:
Bottom Out wrote:lol, your so bitter over a cartoon...you dont see something wrong with that?
...What? Yay for baseless assumptions?

Robinson wrote:So if we chose to like the lips and not get all pissy about prime having lips then we are on the bandwagon or is it us having our own opinion about how they look?

You've told 2 other people to speak for themself when it comes to their broad generalization comments. I think perhaps you should do the same and not critisize us for not being nit picky and complaining about every little detail such as flames and mouthpieces and fangs.
I was mostly referring to the dozends screaming "OMGWTFTHISMOVIEISGONNASUCK" and a couple of months later that same bunch is now screaming "DUDETHISISSOTOTALLYSWEETANDALL" = most of em bandwagoning. A lot of those people were also the people that screamed that primes lips were an abomination and are now suddenly content with it.
I'm not keeping track on who is having an actual opinion or who is bandwagoning nor did I accused any of you personally of it. You all know who you are :P


Thats fine and all, I was just making sure you werent doing exactly what you were telling others to do. As far as people bandwagoning though, like someone said in this thread earlier(I think it was this thread)about complaining before seing the finished product. Alot of people were bitching about primes lips based on unfinished footage, now that some of those that bitched have seen it the opinions they had may have changed. I never really had a big issue with it and just saw it as the next evolutionary step in tformers.
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Postby Nico » Sun Jul 01, 2007 6:50 pm

Dude, im a fan from the Beast Era, so n "Optimus" whit a mouth isn't the ned of the world for me...
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Spoon, you're a great guy. Love the sigs, love the avatars, love the sense of humor.

But honestly, right now, you need to settle down.


By all means, have your opinion. Just have it after you've seen it. Everything you say are your worst fears are in the movie. And they suck. Some of them even more than they already seem to in this thread.

But the movie makes up for that. It really does.

And yeah, the view is pretty nice from up here on the bandwagon, and I chose to climb onto it because most of us up here have other things in our lives to focus on and therefore don't really mind if the movie f'ed up royally in several places.

Not saying you're one of those obsessed people, just that the band wagon is not so bad. I'm proudly on it, because it is, coincidentally enough, my own opinion.
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Postby qwailo » Sun Jul 01, 2007 7:31 pm

Dark Zarak wrote:Spoon, you're a great guy. Love the sigs, love the avatars, love the sense of humor.

But honestly, right now, you need to settle down.


By all means, have your opinion. Just have it after you've seen it. Everything you say are your worst fears are in the movie. And they suck. Some of them even more than they already seem to in this thread.

But the movie makes up for that. It really does.

And yeah, the view is pretty nice from up here on the bandwagon, and I chose to climb onto it because most of us up here have other things in our lives to focus on and therefore don't really mind if the movie f'ed up royally in several places.

Not saying you're one of those obsessed people, just that the band wagon is not so bad. I'm proudly on it, because it is, coincidentally enough, my own opinion.


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Postby Sonray » Sun Jul 01, 2007 7:32 pm

Spoon wrote:I was mostly referring to the dozends screaming "OMGWTFTHISMOVIEISGONNASUCK" and a couple of months later that same bunch is now screaming "DUDETHISISSOTOTALLYSWEETANDALL" = most of em bandwagoning. A lot of those people were also the people that screamed that primes lips were an abomination and are now suddenly content with it.
I'm not keeping track on who is having an actual opinion or who is bandwagoning nor did I accused any of you personally of it. You all know who you are :P


Yeah, exactly. Those people are mostly now all eating their words as they have seen more footage, more trailers and have been given more information and have seen that the movie will, and has, blown people away.

What was initially shock, and the typical fanboy outcry whining, people calmed down, stood back and realized its not such a big deal and everything kept looking better and better as time, and the movie, progressed nearer to a completed stage.

But it seems people like you cant get any enjoyment out of anything and arent happy unless they are critisizing something stupid or meaningless when everyone else has moved on and dealt with it.

I suggest you should do the same. Get the heck over it and stop whining! Its over, move on with your life! There are more important things to bitch/whine/complain about.
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Postby YouFearGalvatron » Sun Jul 01, 2007 7:47 pm

Sonray wrote:
Spoon wrote:I was mostly referring to the dozends screaming "OMGWTFTHISMOVIEISGONNASUCK" and a couple of months later that same bunch is now screaming "DUDETHISISSOTOTALLYSWEETANDALL" = most of em bandwagoning. A lot of those people were also the people that screamed that primes lips were an abomination and are now suddenly content with it.
I'm not keeping track on who is having an actual opinion or who is bandwagoning nor did I accused any of you personally of it. You all know who you are :P


Yeah, exactly. Those people are mostly now all eating their words as they have seen more footage, more trailers and have been given more information and have seen that the movie will, and has, blown people away.

What was initially shock, and the typical fanboy outcry whining, people calmed down, stood back and realized its not such a big deal and everything kept looking better and better as time, and the movie, progressed nearer to a completed stage.

But it seems people like you cant get any enjoyment out of anything and arent happy unless they are critisizing something stupid or meaningless when everyone else has moved on and dealt with it.

I suggest you should do the same. Get the heck over it and stop whining! Its over, move on with your life! There are more important things to bitch/whine/complain about.


Spoon is not bitching. He did not start this thread. He is just tossing in his two cents, as all of us have.

I happen to agree with him TOTALLY.

So everyone, please just calm it down.
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Postby Miken Ayers » Sun Jul 01, 2007 8:33 pm

YouFearGalvatron wrote:
Sonray wrote:
Spoon wrote:I was mostly referring to the dozends screaming "OMGWTFTHISMOVIEISGONNASUCK" and a couple of months later that same bunch is now screaming "DUDETHISISSOTOTALLYSWEETANDALL" = most of em bandwagoning. A lot of those people were also the people that screamed that primes lips were an abomination and are now suddenly content with it.
I'm not keeping track on who is having an actual opinion or who is bandwagoning nor did I accused any of you personally of it. You all know who you are :P


Yeah, exactly. Those people are mostly now all eating their words as they have seen more footage, more trailers and have been given more information and have seen that the movie will, and has, blown people away.

What was initially shock, and the typical fanboy outcry whining, people calmed down, stood back and realized its not such a big deal and everything kept looking better and better as time, and the movie, progressed nearer to a completed stage.

But it seems people like you cant get any enjoyment out of anything and arent happy unless they are critisizing something stupid or meaningless when everyone else has moved on and dealt with it.

I suggest you should do the same. Get the heck over it and stop whining! Its over, move on with your life! There are more important things to bitch/whine/complain about.


Spoon is not bitching. He did not start this thread. He is just tossing in his two cents, as all of us have.

I happen to agree with him TOTALLY.

So everyone, please just calm it down.


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Postby i_amtrunks » Sun Jul 01, 2007 9:38 pm

Ive seen the film twice, and I still really really dislike the missing faceplate on Prime. I understand why they chose to keep him plateless, to try and give him emotion and feeling, yet they failed in that aspect, and the face looks bland and flat.

The fact that there was abhorrent lip syncing as well does not help.

Bumblebee was able to communicate easily enough through only his eyes. They could have and should have done the same with Prime. He looks far better with his faceplate up.
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Postby Emperor Galvatron » Mon Jul 02, 2007 12:41 am

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I'm still not feeling the faceplate or Megatron or Starcream's redesigns. Most of the TFs can't be identified individually and are bland.

Why haven't I said anything in a while? Well, I feel about it the same way I do when I tell people my political views. Most of the time it results in personnal attacks from the 'open-minded' among us, and I just would rather read something else.
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Postby Spoon » Mon Jul 02, 2007 12:56 pm

YouFearGalvatron wrote:
Sonray wrote:
Spoon wrote:I was mostly referring to the dozends screaming "OMGWTFTHISMOVIEISGONNASUCK" and a couple of months later that same bunch is now screaming "DUDETHISISSOTOTALLYSWEETANDALL" = most of em bandwagoning. A lot of those people were also the people that screamed that primes lips were an abomination and are now suddenly content with it.
I'm not keeping track on who is having an actual opinion or who is bandwagoning nor did I accused any of you personally of it. You all know who you are :P
A lot of angry rabbeling without actually reading and understanding what the post was about + the power of assuming random things


Spoon is not bitching. He did not start this thread. He is just tossing in his two cents, as all of us have.

I happen to agree with him TOTALLY.

So everyone, please just calm it down.
Sonray, really take YouFearGalvatron's advice and calm down boy. You are producing so much aggresion on these boards.
Oh and I do thank you for your support YFG.

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Thanks, that makes me all warm and fuzzy inside or like my flame warrior profile says, it makes me purr loudly :)

Dark Zarak wrote:But honestly, right now, you need to settle down.

By all means, have your opinion. Just have it after you've seen it. Everything you say are your worst fears are in the movie. And they suck. Some of them even more than they already seem to in this thread.

But the movie makes up for that. It really does.

And yeah, the view is pretty nice from up here on the bandwagon, and I chose to climb onto it because most of us up here have other things in our lives to focus on and therefore don't really mind if the movie f'ed up royally in several places.

Not saying you're one of those obsessed people, just that the band wagon is not so bad. I'm proudly on it, because it is, coincidentally enough, my own opinion.
*mumblemumble* Just know that i'll be back once ive seen it! Next time gadget! next time...

Emperor Galvatron wrote:I'm still not feeling the faceplate or Megatron or Starcream's redesigns. Most of the TFs can't be identified individually and are bland.

Why haven't I said anything in a while? Well, I feel about it the same way I do when I tell people my political views. Most of the time it results in personnal attacks from the 'open-minded' among us, and I just would rather read something else.
Oh I hear you there.
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Postby Sonray » Mon Jul 02, 2007 1:02 pm

Spoon wrote:
YouFearGalvatron wrote:
Sonray wrote:
Spoon wrote:I was mostly referring to the dozends screaming "OMGWTFTHISMOVIEISGONNASUCK" and a couple of months later that same bunch is now screaming "DUDETHISISSOTOTALLYSWEETANDALL" = most of em bandwagoning. A lot of those people were also the people that screamed that primes lips were an abomination and are now suddenly content with it.
I'm not keeping track on who is having an actual opinion or who is bandwagoning nor did I accused any of you personally of it. You all know who you are :P
A lot of angry rabbeling without actually reading and understanding what the post was about + the power of assuming random things


Spoon is not bitching. He did not start this thread. He is just tossing in his two cents, as all of us have.

I happen to agree with him TOTALLY.

So everyone, please just calm it down.
Sonray, really take YouFearGalvatron's advice and calm down boy. You are producing so much aggresion on these boards.
Oh and I do thank you for your support YFG.

Dark Zarak wrote:Spoon, you're a great guy. Love the sigs, love the avatars, love the sense of humor.
Thanks, that makes me all warm and fuzzy inside or like my flame warrior profile says, it makes me purr loudly :)

Dark Zarak wrote:But honestly, right now, you need to settle down.

By all means, have your opinion. Just have it after you've seen it. Everything you say are your worst fears are in the movie. And they suck. Some of them even more than they already seem to in this thread.

But the movie makes up for that. It really does.

And yeah, the view is pretty nice from up here on the bandwagon, and I chose to climb onto it because most of us up here have other things in our lives to focus on and therefore don't really mind if the movie f'ed up royally in several places.

Not saying you're one of those obsessed people, just that the band wagon is not so bad. I'm proudly on it, because it is, coincidentally enough, my own opinion.
*mumblemumble* Just know that i'll be back once ive seen it! Next time gadget! next time...

Emperor Galvatron wrote:I'm still not feeling the faceplate or Megatron or Starcream's redesigns. Most of the TFs can't be identified individually and are bland.

Why haven't I said anything in a while? Well, I feel about it the same way I do when I tell people my political views. Most of the time it results in personnal attacks from the 'open-minded' among us, and I just would rather read something else.
Oh I hear you there.


I dont cause aggresion, i speak my mind in an honest manner and it people get aggrivated by that, thats their problem.

Also, none of those comments you quoted were mine just so ya know...
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Postby Spoon » Mon Jul 02, 2007 2:08 pm

Sonray wrote:I dont cause aggresion, i speak my mind in an honest manner and it people get aggrivated by that, thats their problem.

Also, none of those comments you quoted were mine just so ya know...
I also speak my mind in an honest manner yet for some reason I do not have this aggressive tone in all of my posts.

Also, I quoted you alright.
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Postby tacogrande » Mon Jul 02, 2007 2:10 pm

Whaa? Prime doesn't have a faceplate?! I'M CANCELLING MY TICKETS RIGHT NOW!



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Postby Sonray » Mon Jul 02, 2007 3:37 pm

Spoon wrote:
Sonray wrote:I dont cause aggresion, i speak my mind in an honest manner and it people get aggrivated by that, thats their problem.

Also, none of those comments you quoted were mine just so ya know...
I also speak my mind in an honest manner yet for some reason I do not have this aggressive tone in all of my posts.

Also, I quoted you alright.


You didnt. The quote that i apparently said i never typed, youve gotten the text mixed up with somebody elses. I never said that thing about rambling. But whatever.
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Postby Spoon » Mon Jul 02, 2007 5:56 pm

Sonray wrote:You didnt. The quote that i apparently said i never typed, youve gotten the text mixed up with somebody elses. I never said that thing about rambling. But whatever.
You'll understand in due time... welcome to the internet.
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Postby Sonray » Mon Jul 02, 2007 5:59 pm

Spoon wrote:
Sonray wrote:You didnt. The quote that i apparently said i never typed, youve gotten the text mixed up with somebody elses. I never said that thing about rambling. But whatever.
You'll understand in due time... welcome to the internet.


Yeah...and maybe you will understand to quote someone correctly in the future and not put words in their mouths. :roll:
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Postby Spoon » Mon Jul 02, 2007 6:08 pm

Sonray wrote:
Spoon wrote:
Sonray wrote:You didnt. The quote that i apparently said i never typed, youve gotten the text mixed up with somebody elses. I never said that thing about rambling. But whatever.
You'll understand in due time... welcome to the internet.


Yeah...and maybe you will understand to quote someone correctly in the future and not put words in their mouths. :roll:
It's even more hilarious when you still don't get it :lol:
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Postby decepticonjon » Mon Jul 02, 2007 6:20 pm

tacogrande wrote:Whaa? Prime doesn't have a faceplate?! I'M CANCELLING MY TICKETS RIGHT NOW!



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Postby Sonray » Mon Jul 02, 2007 6:26 pm

Spoon wrote:
Sonray wrote:
Spoon wrote:
Sonray wrote:You didnt. The quote that i apparently said i never typed, youve gotten the text mixed up with somebody elses. I never said that thing about rambling. But whatever.
You'll understand in due time... welcome to the internet.


Yeah...and maybe you will understand to quote someone correctly in the future and not put words in their mouths. :roll:
It's even more hilarious when you still don't get it :lol:


No i dont "get it". What is there to get? All i see is immature behaviour, trolling and failed attempts at witty insults.

If there is something to "get" then please enlighten me. I am sure it'll be the biggest revelation i have ever experianced in my life time...

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Postby Robinson » Mon Jul 02, 2007 7:14 pm

Sonray wrote:
Spoon wrote:
YouFearGalvatron wrote:
Sonray wrote:
Spoon wrote:I was mostly referring to the dozends screaming "OMGWTFTHISMOVIEISGONNASUCK" and a couple of months later that same bunch is now screaming "DUDETHISISSOTOTALLYSWEETANDALL" = most of em bandwagoning. A lot of those people were also the people that screamed that primes lips were an abomination and are now suddenly content with it.
I'm not keeping track on who is having an actual opinion or who is bandwagoning nor did I accused any of you personally of it. You all know who you are :P
A lot of angry rabbeling without actually reading and understanding what the post was about + the power of assuming random things


Spoon is not bitching. He did not start this thread. He is just tossing in his two cents, as all of us have.

I happen to agree with him TOTALLY.

So everyone, please just calm it down.
Sonray, really take YouFearGalvatron's advice and calm down boy. You are producing so much aggresion on these boards.
Oh and I do thank you for your support YFG.

Dark Zarak wrote:Spoon, you're a great guy. Love the sigs, love the avatars, love the sense of humor.
Thanks, that makes me all warm and fuzzy inside or like my flame warrior profile says, it makes me purr loudly :)

Dark Zarak wrote:But honestly, right now, you need to settle down.

By all means, have your opinion. Just have it after you've seen it. Everything you say are your worst fears are in the movie. And they suck. Some of them even more than they already seem to in this thread.

But the movie makes up for that. It really does.

And yeah, the view is pretty nice from up here on the bandwagon, and I chose to climb onto it because most of us up here have other things in our lives to focus on and therefore don't really mind if the movie f'ed up royally in several places.

Not saying you're one of those obsessed people, just that the band wagon is not so bad. I'm proudly on it, because it is, coincidentally enough, my own opinion.
*mumblemumble* Just know that i'll be back once ive seen it! Next time gadget! next time...

Emperor Galvatron wrote:I'm still not feeling the faceplate or Megatron or Starcream's redesigns. Most of the TFs can't be identified individually and are bland.

Why haven't I said anything in a while? Well, I feel about it the same way I do when I tell people my political views. Most of the time it results in personnal attacks from the 'open-minded' among us, and I just would rather read something else.
Oh I hear you there.


I dont cause aggresion, i speak my mind in an honest manner and it people get aggrivated by that, thats their problem.

Also, none of those comments you quoted were mine just so ya know...



Sonray this is what you put:

Yeah, exactly. Those people are mostly now all eating their words as they have seen more footage, more trailers and have been given more information and have seen that the movie will, and has, blown people away.

What was initially shock, and the typical fanboy outcry whining, people calmed down, stood back and realized its not such a big deal and everything kept looking better and better as time, and the movie, progressed nearer to a completed stage.

But it seems people like you cant get any enjoyment out of anything and arent happy unless they are critisizing something stupid or meaningless when everyone else has moved on and dealt with it.

I suggest you should do the same. Get the heck over it and stop whining! Its over, move on with your life! There are more important things to bitch/whine/complain about.


and it was turned into this:
A lot of angry rabbeling without actually reading and understanding what the post was about + the power of assuming random things


Basically he reworded what you said.

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Postby Spoon » Mon Jul 02, 2007 8:19 pm

Sonray wrote:No i dont "get it". What is there to get? All i see is immature behaviour, trolling and failed attempts at witty insults.
Time for some self reflection here Sonray. The above is written by you. This contains a lot of aggression and makes you seem very very hostile. Now I know you are new to these boards but thats no excuse for acting like this. It's okay to be a newbie but not to be a noob.
ATM you are acting like a noob. You scream, yell and insult everyone that doesn't share you opinion of the movie. Calling them whining fanboys and such. Not to mention making wild and baseless accusations like: "But it seems people like you cant get any enjoyment out of anything and arent happy unless they are critisizing something stupid or meaningless when everyone else has moved on and dealt with it." which pretty much proves that you didn't actually read and understood the posts made here but merely conclude "He doesn't like the movie = Him being a stupid fanboy = greenlight for me to bitch on those movie haters"
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Postby Optimus Primevil » Mon Jul 02, 2007 9:48 pm

Blitzwing the warrior wrote:Once people saw the lips in action, people got excited


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Postby Sonray » Tue Jul 03, 2007 11:05 am

Spoon wrote:
Sonray wrote:No i dont "get it". What is there to get? All i see is immature behaviour, trolling and failed attempts at witty insults.
Time for some self reflection here Sonray. The above is written by you. This contains a lot of aggression and makes you seem very very hostile. Now I know you are new to these boards but thats no excuse for acting like this. It's okay to be a newbie but not to be a noob.
ATM you are acting like a noob. You scream, yell and insult everyone that doesn't share you opinion of the movie. Calling them whining fanboys and such. Not to mention making wild and baseless accusations like: "But it seems people like you cant get any enjoyment out of anything and arent happy unless they are critisizing something stupid or meaningless when everyone else has moved on and dealt with it." which pretty much proves that you didn't actually read and understood the posts made here but merely conclude "He doesn't like the movie = Him being a stupid fanboy = greenlight for me to bitch on those movie haters"


Thats just YOUR opinion. That doesnt make it the truth. I am fully aware of my actions and how i act so no one, especially someone like you, is going to tell me otherwise.

I can say all the same things about you, especially when you go around re-wording things.

So basically, for lack of being able to say what you really feel on these boards due to lagnuage limitations, you know what you can go and do with yourself.
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Postby Starscreams bad comedy » Tue Jul 03, 2007 11:30 am

Because the CG eye candy did it job and has distracted everyone from the sucky lips.
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