The Energon Pub

I think Primes call to all survivng Autobots will be key. When new autobots arrive from whereever they have come from I think something should happen here like one of the Autobots will bring news of a new threat or news of another All-Spark. In some way they will be able to create life again. I think the news will make them want to go back to Cybertron and they will make preparations to depart when Starscream and new decepticons show up to destroy the Autobots once and for all and take the new discovery for themselves. The Decepticons will be at odds with Starscream when they suggest resurrecting Megatron. This new quest will take both sides into a new conflict for survival.

Somethings I'd like...

-Starscream returning to Earth with some more Decepticons(Skyfire, Constructicons, Soundwave, and Shockwave) while Barricade spies on the Autobots and Sam

-Some Autobots answering Prime's call, hopefully Grimlock and his Dynobots Slag, Sludge, Swoop, and Snarl.

-A few mysterious Transformers show up, one a futuristic car, a futuristic tank, futuristic helicopter, a bulldozer/minesweeper type thing, and then a massive purple cybertronian jet. (Jazz, Brawl/Devastator, Blackout, Bonecrusher, and then Galvatron)

-That leaves three separate factions, The Starscream led Decepticons, The Autobots, and then the new Decepticons led by Galvatron.

-Starscream's 'Cons and the 'Bots start to work together to do away with Galvy's team.

-After they win(Jazz rejoins the 'Bots and helps them beat Galvy), Starscream reiniates his attack on the 'Bots and almost has them beat.

-Realizing how evil is "best" friend is, Skyfire turns on him and with his help, the 'Bots are able to ward off Starscream and his Decepticons, but Starscream lives setting up for another sequel...

I've had to much time to think about this...

Venomous Prime wrote:Somethings I'd like...

-Starscream returning to Earth with some more Decepticons(Skyfire, Constructicons, Soundwave, and Shockwave) while Barricade spies on the Autobots and Sam

-Some Autobots answering Prime's call, hopefully Grimlock and his Dynobots Slag, Sludge, Swoop, and Snarl.

-A few mysterious Transformers show up, one a futuristic car, a futuristic tank, futuristic helicopter, a bulldozer/minesweeper type thing, and then a massive purple cybertronian jet. (Jazz, Brawl/Devastator, Blackout, Bonecrusher, and then Galvatron)

-That leaves three separate factions, The Starscream led Decepticons, The Autobots, and then the new Decepticons led by Galvatron.

-Starscream's 'Cons and the 'Bots start to work together to do away with Galvy's team.

-After they win(Jazz rejoins the 'Bots and helps them beat Galvy), Starscream reiniates his attack on the 'Bots and almost has them beat.

-Realizing how evil is "best" friend is, Skyfire turns on him and with his help, the 'Bots are able to ward off Starscream and his Decepticons, but Starscream lives setting up for another sequel...

I've had to much time to think about this...

Not a bad idea, but why are Galvatron's 'cons futuristic, and why would Jazz be with them? I love the Sky/Jetfire idea, too, and I'd love to see them have a dogfight Michael Bay style. Hopefully, with less shaky cam.

Futuristic because I was trying to convey that the Allspark transformed them into more then just mere Transformers

and I put Jazz there because Megs/Galvy would be harnessing the power of the Allspark to reformat/mutate the "fallen" Transformers from the first movie.

I love when characters are faced with the idea of having to fight their friends

Aha. I'd like to see something like that to add depth, but, it looks like Jazz is indeed dead. That's too bad he went down like a punk bitch. But hey, there bound to bring in some Auto-bruisers for the sequel, because that's what sequels are about.
I think it would be cool to have Ultra Magnus show up, and be leading a squad of bots like Prowl, Skyfire, and Wheeljack, and at the same time, Grimlock shows up with two of the other Dinobots, who are considered rogue Autobots, and you have a clash of "by the book" and "whatever it takes" methods of leadership, which they have to reconcile to take down an Allspark-empowered Megatron. I say only three Dinobots because there would just be too many bots, otherwise, I'm afraid. I think that if the Dinobots are portrayed as being "rebels" or going against the flow, they could pull of Dinosaur modes, maybe. Anywho, just my thoughts.

Come to think of it, if you want to stay more in tune with the classic series, the Dinobots could actually result from the residual effects of the All Spark and be created on Earth. They wouldn't be as technically or mentally evolved as the other Transformers, and perhaps the Autobots are struggling with the Dinobots near the beginning of the movie before real s#!t hits the fan.

Blackout  wrote:

rainshadow wrote:It's the nature of trilogies, really, but I see what you're saying. The Spider-man movies didn't follow that plot for the second movie. Perhaps things are bleak so much as both sides are mounting for all-out war.

I hope you didn't take offense to my observation. Your idea doesn't make for a bad movie. And I kind of like the 'bleak ending' element.

No, no absolutely no offense taken at all.

I think Transformers is the right story to have the last two movies of the trilogy filmed back to back and released in a 6- to 12-month span, like Pirates and Matrix, which is kind of why the idea works, to tell you the truth.

Here's my idea.

I'd bring in 4 new Decepticons: Soundwave (Emotionless and twisted) paired with Rumble (an agent of chaos), Thundercracker (Genius with a cynical side, but unsure of his loyalties and ethics), and Sixshot (Quintessential "Strongarm" of the new Decepticons). The 4 of them arrive with Starscream on earth, and rejoin Barricade, Frenzy, and Scorponk. The Decepticons launch an attack against the Autobots, crippling their depleted forces, and irrepearably damaging Ironhide. Throughout the fight Thundercracker had numerous opertunities to inflict further damage on the Autobots and finish Ironhide, but does not press his advantage. Just when things look grim, two protoforms hit the battle ground, scanning a nearby motorcycle and police cruiser, and Arcee (Sapper and Sharpshooter), Prowl (Information officer and self styled knight), and Steeljaw (Prowl's companion) join the battle, driving back the Decepticons. The Autobots gathered around the fallen Ironhide as he passes. Optimus and the others discover that Arcee, Prowl, and Steeljaw were sent by Springer to find the fate of Optimus Prime, and it seems that Springer has assumed command of the Autobots in Prime's absence.

Very quickly, the Prowl/Barricade rivalry comes to light, where the two police cruisers battle out to see who's view of justice will reign. Thundercracker's constant questioning of where his allegiance lies won't also be of significance. Eventually Prowl and Barricade destroy eachother, as do thier minions. Thundercracker is also given an opertunity to finish Arcee, but instead destroys Scorponok, while everybody is looking the other way. Bumblebee is also severly damaged and Optimus, Ratchet, Arcee, and the damaged Bumblebee are forced to retreat. Starscream proclaims himself king of the Decepticons.

At the end of the movie Ratchet is seen rebuilding Bumblebee, and Megatron self reformatting, the scenes flip between the two, until Goldbug and Galvatron are completed, Galvatron swimming to the surface, and Goldbug rises to rejoin Optimus Prime, Ratchet, and Acree, as they wait and hope Springer will find them in time. The scene of Starscreams coronation is filmed, and a stranger interupts it. "Coronation Starscream? You never cease to fail me." Starscream is destroyed in a heartbeat, and the newcomer indentifies himself as Galvatron, the other Decepticons bowing before him, Thundercracker the last to do so.

In the backdrop of a space a voice is heard: "Galvatron... my champion... Cyclonus, find him."

Notes
- Nothing about Arcee suggesting a different physical sex. I think we all agree that robots with different sexes is ridiculous. Merely a more feminine in personality.
- Nothing on Megatron/Galvatron till the end
- I am not the biggest fan of either Ultra Magnus or Dinobots. Hence, they are not used.
- My reason for using Springer as interm commander is because he is amongst the most powerful of the Autobots and third-in-command in G-1 (Season three). And there is the whole Wreckers thing too.
- Yes, I am aluding to Unicron, and Cyclonus is his minion, or messenger if you will.
- There is no definative proof that either Frenzy or Scorponok were destroyed. Frenzy got a blade in the head but like an evil energizer bunny he been seen to have Waspinator-like endurance, and Scorponok was last seen burrowing under the sand, leaving parts on himself behind.

No no no no no, I say 1 Dinobot and thats Grimlock. You cant have too many characters in a 2 hour movie. If they made a TV series or a cartoon based on the movie with crappy effects, yeah sure. But not a movie.

You guys are forgetting this movie has to be aimed at a wide variety of audiences, not just die hard fans to make it work. If they clutter the movie, and make it too much like G1 cartoon, it may put off potential movie goers and next thing you know, NO 3rd movie.

I also think that it will be wise for Bay to not make this a to be continued movie like Empire strikes back, matrix, and so forth. But instead lay the foundation for the 3rd movie and forshadow it but in the background. Let the main plot to this movie end in this movie but their can be a subplot or two that leads to the 3rd movie though.

One could say that a scout was sent before Megs and that decepticon scout was Soundwave.... The autobot who was sent to stop Soundwave was Grimlock and when soundwave wasnt heard from , Megs went to Earth to search... A volcanic erruption left Soundwave and Grimlock burried alive and to survive they both shut down... A dinosaur dig found soundwave and Grimlock and when the autobots get there, Soundwave is missing and he scans what ever he becomes but Grimlock when reactivated remains a T-Rex for its brute strength fits his personality.

Soundwave meets up with Starscream and a few other decepticons who are building a underwater base while Soundwave finds megs and allspark eventually changes him but he remains megs or turns to Galvy...Bay's choice.

There are paths you can go down for the autobots and humans like maybe you can focus this movie on two humans, Sam ofcourse but how about making "Spike" a seperate character and have him meet Hot Rod/Rodimus ..whatever name they can give him... and you can have that whole car meets teen/early 20's guy again but do it differently. Maybe Arcee , Hot Rod and Ultra Magnus or just Magnus come to earth and Hot rod is seperated from them and in the fall his communications and sensors are damaged leaving him to the point he has to search the hard way and finds a young man nick named Spike to help him. This could also lead to a kick ass race scene between Bumblebee/Sam and Hot Rod/Spike Or maybe Hot Rod finds one of the other characters from the first movie.

Either way, no more than 8 new characters should show up in this movie that you hear their names.....you can have more decepticons but dont focus on them at all and make them cannon fodder.

You have to find a mix of new with old in there. Its 20 years later and you have to make it appealing to the world of today but you also have to throw in some tidbits for the hardcore fans as well.

The Quintessons and Unicron need to stay in the cartoons and comics.

This is a new continuity, and IMO it's the best one.

I have a great idea.


don't make it.

Wow, for once, i'm not going to write a story, just drop some plot ides...this assumes that the Movie Franchise will end at 4 movies.

Transfomrers Movie 2:

1. The Allspark regenerates and is put into a housing built by Ratchet called the "Matrix", and placed into Prime's chest for safe keeping, for it is the Last hope for Cybertron.

2. The Dinobots are some how created, and constructicons arrive under Starscreams leadership.

3. Ultra Magnus, Arcee, and Hotrod come to Earth.

4. Megatron having been in stasis lock due to the enrgy recieved from the Allspark, is reformatted, and uses a small burst which changes Bonecrusher, Blackout into Sweeps and Megatron comes back as "Galvatron!"

5. Galvatron seeks the Matrix.

Transformers movie 3:

1. The drifting ark makes its way to Earth, is cloaked but crashes in the Nevada Desert. Teletran if claimed can infiltrate and take over all computers on the Earth, and can give the Decepticons a clear advantage.

2. Race against time to get to the Ark.

3. Secret Military sector 7, becomes a splinter from the Government and seeks to rule the world by a director Archie Evilie "Archevil"

4. Galvatron succeeds in Killing Optimus Prime, Hot rod joins with the Matrix.

5. Galvatron sends a massive signal from Teletran One into space calling more Decepticons..

Transformers movie 4:

1. Shockwave made a deakl with unicron to help save his Planet Cybertron from destruction, in so doing he promised him the Allspark..which made Shockwave his Herald.

"Note" unicron seeks the Allspark, which is the only thing that can satisfy his hunger and sustain him without eating everything..

2. teletran's Signals, Unicron, whose a large Meteor sized parasite, that crashes into planets and eats their core out, which causes them to cave in on itself.

3. the Autobots lead by Rodimus Prime, fight off Galvatron, and destroy the sweeps along with unicron, and use Unicron technology to leave earth and rebuild Cybertron, thus ending the "Great War"

Continuation of partial script idea:

It's two years since TF1 ended. In TF2 we find the transformers living in the desert away from the prying eyes of society. They spend most of their time continuing to learn about their new home on earth as well as the human species, always with the hope of being contacted by surviving autobots. They are visited often by Sam and Mikaela but this does not ease the autobots suspicions about the possibility of surviving decepticons mounting an attack again on earth. We see a vast ocean, the one where the remains of Megatron we buried. The camera plunges deep into the sea and we can see the ruins of the once feirce leader of the decepticons rusted and overgrown with barnacles. However, as we get closer, we can see a slight glow coming from the gash in megatron's chest where sam thrusted the allspark. What Optimus doesnt know is that the shard that he plucked out of Megatron's chest at the end of TF1 was not the only shard left embedded. A tiny peice of the allspark remained, and it has been regenerating itself slowly, and with it, the rebirth of Megatron as well.

Starscream finds and recruits other decepticons and proclaims himself new leader of the decepts. being that he believes the allspark is gone, he wants to continue Megatron's work on earth but knows he cant turn earth's technology into transformers without it, thus he decides to enslave the human species thus building a new cybertron on earth. He realizes that the human's technology is vast, therefore he targets the strongest armies of the world because Starscream knows the humans cannot defend themselves against the decepticons without their weaponry. Using Frenzy and Soundwave, they hack the computwer systems of the armies around the entire world and systematically disable military capabilities. Once the world's respective armies are non functional, Starscream's decepticon forces attack. The autobots who have been secretly monitoring the decpeticons movements, mount a counter strike against them, teamed with the remaining operational militaries.
Meanwhile, Megatron is now almost fully reginerated as well as the cube and is aware of Starscream's plans. During the regeneration process, Megatron and the cube merge into one entity, thus giving him limitless powers. He seeks revenge against Starscream's disloyalty and cowardice as well as the rest of the decepticons seeming indifference. He is also enraged that non of the Decepticons sought to resurrect and repair him once he had been dumped into the ocean.
An incredible scene in which Megatron appears enraged and Starscream is in shock and goes into full tail-between-his-legs-mode would be great. Megatron regains leadership of the Decepticons, but not before punishing the cons who betrayed him. That's all I have so far...

This is what we need to see in the sequal...

1. DINOBOTS
2. SOUNDWAVE
3. Constructicons
4. Wheeljack
5. Inferno
6. Less humans...more TF's

Here's what i would like:

TF The movie 2'

The Dinobots join Optimus Prime and the other autobots on earth, because Starscream is on hes way with and armada ( all the other seekers, Thundercracker, Skywarp, Ramjet, Trust and Dirge ). Grimlock has a mini-version of the Allspark with him, the little-brother to the allspark, and Starscream has made his crown out of a new powerfull artifact he found far far away in the galaxy ( Could be what they fight for this time, but now Starscream has the power and will Destroy Grimlock and Prime. But the new mini-allspark is much more rough and can only be destroyed with Starscreams crown artifact, so the Autobots want the crown so they can destroy both things. Starscream wants to rule over them.

But what they do not know is that Megatron is ressurected because the Allspark had an weird side effect, so does some of the old Decepticons. Hes more powerfull now, and he scans a new earth form. He builds the Contructicons with hes new powers.

So its a battle with 3 sides now, Autobots, Decepticons and Team Megatron.

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That could be awesome if you ask me ... But well ... i think it wont be like my idea

I would love to see fot TF sequel:
1) Ultra Magnus
2) Arcee
3) Elite-One
4) ALpha Trion
5) The Dinobots
6) Constructicons
7) Omega Supreme
Wheeljack
9) Prowl
10) The Stunticon, esp. MotorMaster!
(MotorMaster Vs. Prime)

NO to everyone planning on killing Prime! I would be so ungodly pissed off if Prime died...AGAIN. Besides, Cullen's signed on for another two movies, if I remember right. I was thinking that maybe the second movie shouldn't be exactly like the first one, so maybe...no human military at all. Or if there is military involvement, have them attacking every Transformer they can. They could kill a 'con or two, severely injure one of the 'bots, leaving Ratchet to fix him, and then the Autobots have to protect the ungrateful humans, showing that they aren't evil. Just badass. And Grimlock could be wanting to kill the humans, but Prime stops him...maybe a Grimlock and Prime scuffle? I'd like to see that.

More screen time for all the TF's, Starscream returning to their spaceship provisional base, placed on Mars...

And the Autobots building their base in a remote place like the mountains in Oregon ¿?, or the desert, or in a small island of the Pacific far away from the humans..., or maybe they still had a moonbase, or a spaceship placed there...

And I would like to continuate seeing (is that expresion correct¿?) that progression from the G1 characters...

Prowl, Wheeljack, Hound, Sunstreaker, Sideswipe, Mirage...

Thundercracker, Soundwave, Shockwave, Rumble (not so small as Frenzy),...

Sentinel Pax wrote:NO to everyone planning on killing Prime! I would be so ungodly pissed off if Prime died...AGAIN.

I agree, we are feed up of seeing he die so many times...

here's my idea:

it starts a few months after the end of the first movie. by then, the autobots have fit into society quite well, having acquired drivers as well jobs, when one day, they see five of what appear to be meteors crash down to earth in a way similar to the Autobots arrival. during the approach, two stray far off course, resulting in three landing in a nearby field, and the other two landing somewhere in another town. the Meteors are revealed to be autobot protoforms, who take the form of a car carrier, a sports bike, and a police cruiser. they reveal themselves as Ultra Magnus, Arcee, and Prowl. Optimus is glad to see Magnus, who is an old friend.


meanwhile, Starscream returns to earth with two new Decepticons, Soundwave and Thundercracker, then meets Barricade and Scorponok on Alcatraz island, discovering that they have some new recruits, Ransack, Crumplezone, and Tidal Wave. with Megatron out of the way, Starscream starts out a plan to take over the world

back in Tranquility, the new autobots are introduced to life with humans. Prowl gladly and respectfully accepts working with the law enforcement, while Ultra Magnus feels that it's a hassle moving around cars for people when they could just drive them instead. Arcee and Mikaela have started to become very close friends, and Bumblebee has become attracted to Arcee, but is very shy and can't even get near her. Sam tries to help BB out, but to some rough results.

later, the Decepticons attack Las Vegas in an attempt to steal great amounts of money. the autobots race there, but are overpowered and in damaged well. out of the blue, A speeding Ferrari and a bomber jet appear and manage to help drive off the Decepticons. the vehicles reveal themselves to be Autobots named Hot Shot and Wing Saber. a young man is with the two, who introduces himself as Chad Jones, who tries to hit on Mikaela, as well as HotShot on Arcee. this sparks a rivalry between him and Sam.

eventually, Galvatron, a new and improved reincarnation of Megatron rises from the sea, and there is a giant battle between Autobots and Decepticons

Justicity wrote:

DavidT wrote:I guess Prime might die in the next movie and we can be introduced to Ultra Magnus and Hot Rod (Please don't let them be whiney babies )

They could introduce Unicron and have the 2nd movie end with them goin' into battle and leave you hanging to see it until the 3rd movie

Yes, Arcee should definitely be there

If they don't get to go back to Cybertron, at least show flashbacks of what it looked like before it got trashed

NO!!! No Prime Dying. No Unicron.
And for the love of Primus, NO HOT ROD!!!

I do agree however that Magnus should be introduced, but as a friend of Prime's, without either dying. Arcee would be a cool new character. I like the idea of flashbacks too.

I think but please correct me, Peter Cullen signed on for 2 more sequels, So Prime can't die until TF3. Let's make it happen.

Agreed 200%!

NO prime dying! AT ALL! (the voice actor could be signed for flashbacks or some kind of guiding voice to the new leader) AGAIN... I do not want to see this. Done WAAAAYYY to many times.

I would limit the amount of new TF's introduced to 3 autobots and 4 or 5 decepts. Flesh them out some more though.

The spark should be a side story AKA: bring megs back and the beginning of the spark inside OP.

I would write it as a foreign power, influenced by the decepts (directly or indirectly), starting to make trouble. The humans can hurt the TF's and if you get them to destroy themselves so they can no longer give the autobots a home base. (I assume the TF war is still going) If the autobots are allowed to regroup then they would have a huge advantage in the war. Sprinkle this with TONS of action and you have yourself something with substance...

I dunno just pulling things out of my arse here. *shrug*

Burnup Prime wrote:here's my idea:

later, the Decepticons attack Las Vegas in an attempt to steal great amounts of money.

Why do the Decepticons need money

Dont know, save Unicron for the third movie!

i just hope the 3rd one isn't like X-men the last stand, and everybody dies except Bumblebee and sam , unicron eats half the planet, or prime dies and makes rodimus the new permanent new leader...

oh and the dinobot thing was cool, but how are they gonna hide from humans?