Autobot Strider wrote:@Autobot32:
Hmmm... interpreting much? I don't think I used any verbage to indicate she was in any state near to becoming physically ill. That is a complete invention on your part because you have ZERO idea what my relationship with my wife is like, and unless you live in my house, you never will.
I hit a nerve, my sincerest apologies. That was completely unintentional. Tolerance doesn't always have a positive ring to it. That's the mindset I was coming from.
Autobot Strider wrote:Perhaps I shouldn't have used the word 'tolerate'. I didn't mean to imply that she can barely function because I have some toys, which is not at all the case but apparantely, in 'Jerry Springer-ish' fashion, it's the conclusion that you jumped to because it would get the best audience reaction.
Okay, you're beginning to carry this a bit too far. You didn't mean to imply, yet you did. Nothing in my post was even remotely "Jerry Springer-ish" as you put it.
Not once did I say she could barely function because of their existence in your home, either.
YOU are making leaps of grand size that would make Evel Kineval jealous.
Part of this little bit here is because you felt personally offended by my comments towards your situation, and because of that, I'll let this rather rude post slide, but I most certainly didn't appreciate it. It was unnecessary. And you know it.
Autobot Strider wrote:You really fail to see the other side of the issue? So what if your wife was as passionate about shoes (and I'm not talking expensive, designer ones either) as you are about TFs? So much so that they were taking up tons of closet space and costing you money that could be going to more important things, like your mortgage... you would be completely fine with that, because it's her passion? I know I sure as hell wouldn't, and would ask her to reign in her spending.
Yes, I do fail to see her argument. She tolerates TWO Masterpiece figures on display? Tolerates? Do you see how ridiculous that sounds? They're two action figures, not the end of the world.
And oh good. You assumed. You know what happens when you assume, here's the catch though, nothing was made out of me in this instance. This time, it's all you.
Never once did I say that a collection should be more important than the bills. In fact, I said to another poster that if there's roof over their heads, food on the table, clothing on their backs, etc (this includes the bills), first...then I see no problem with spending on a hobby. I didn't specify to which degree, because each person has their own ability/comfort level when it comes to money. In no way, not once did I say anything of the sort that you're implying or assuming.
Now, you ARE going too far, and far worse than my original comment was. Congratulations, you've succeeded in angering me. Good job.
Autobot Strider wrote:Would that make me a bad husband? No, it would make me an equal partner in a relationship that has equal say in where the money goes, and what goes where in our house. I'm not saying that I would ban her from every buying shoes again, but if it was out of control then I would feel like I had the right to let her know; just as if my spending (be it on TFs, Video games, Cars... whatever - the hobby is irrelevant) was creating a problem. If you can't discuss as adults what bothers you to your partner, then you are just sitting on a relationship powder keg, IMHO.
No one said you'd be a bad husband, no one said you were. No one said your wife was a bad wife (which is where you were going with this, ultimately. Nice try, but no dice.) No one made a derogatory comment of that nature, most certainly not to your wife.
And I agree that you must be able to discuss it. Others have posted stating that they can't even have the talk without it destabilizing into something awful.
But that conversation has to work in favor of both parties. A relationship cannot make it unless it's 50/50. That doesn't mean money, that means emotional investment, love. Once you have that covered, the rest can be dealt with as it comes.
There's nothing wrong with me saying that. Sorry you disagree, but oh well.
Autobot Strider wrote:@Treetop Maximus:
Your self-righteous anti-feminisit "grow some balls" attitude is complete bullshit. As I said in the end of my post, You have no right to judge what is right or wrong for any other couple, because you have zero understanding of the dynamic between that couple. If you had some bad experiences, then I feel for you, I really do... but don't try and pound a circle into a square hole... because you'll just end up looking ignorant.
I cannot speak for TM. However, I can honestly tell you that I do not agree with anti-feminism. Not at all. Women and men are created equal. If a man and a woman are doing the exact same job, they should be paid the same. I know they're not. It should be fought tooth and nail. That's just the tip of the iceberg. Women deserve to be treated fairly and as an equal because they are just that. I want to make that clear. I also want to make it clear that I didn't respond to his comment. I felt no need to. I was completely indifferent to it. I was neither con, nor pro.
Autobot Strider wrote:I'm not trying to start any crap here... but if you guys feel the need to go around questioning everyone else's balls, then that is just so very sad to me.
Alright. NOW, I *AM* PISSED. You ARE trying to start crap, so cut the lies like that one, NOW. Don't you dare, DON'T YOU DARE say "you guys". I do not share his sentiment, I don't deserve to be labeled along with him. TM is his own person, and I am my own person. He applauded what I said, I made no response. I didn't agree, I didn't disagree, I just let it be. Indifferent. That's it. Nothing more, nothing less.
I have no need, want, desire or find any joy in going around questioning the manhood of my fellow posters. Again, I can't speak for TM, so I won't, but I can tell you again and again, that I do not feel a need to bust someone here, in the balls.
What's truly sad to me? My post struck a nerve, and it really shouldn't have, but it did, and I apologized, and yet you attack me. You label me. You impugn my character with these comments. HOW DARE YOU.
My previous post probably wasn't the most tactful, probably should've approached it from a different angle, but I didn't, and I apologized. Both in that post and in this one. With that in mind, there was no need, NO NEED for your post to be so despicable.
You jumped to conclusions, you assumed, you got angry with me, yet you said "I didn't mean to imply that she can barely function because I have some toys", and you expected no one to take notice of that? You didn't mean to, but you most certainly opened the door to a response.
I don't know what your problem is, but I've already apologized, and you've offended me far beyond what is necessary. You DO owe me an apology. I hope, somewhere deep down the gentleman in you will read these words and make you do it.
You went way too far. Way too far.
NOTE: Realize that I am not a perfect Christian, nor do I profess to be. I apologize if anyone's ever offended by me, I'm not perfect. Don't hold my posts and opinions against other Christians.
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