The Energon Pub

Hasbro added schedules and panel descriptions for their 2021 Pulsecon. The Transformers panel starts at 12:30 ET this Friday, the 22nd, and we now know that it will include them revealing the first wave of next Transformers Generations line. The other reveal will be the Unicron Galvatron pack which we've seen a review of already. Since there is no mention of any "Kingdom wave 5", it begs to question when that will be revealed.

Transformers Fan Product Panel
Join the Hasbro Transformers team as we kick off the celebration of the Transformers legacy and officially reveal toys from the first wave of the next Transformers Generations line. We’re bringing together fan-favorite characters from across the multiverse, so get ready; the Energon will be electric! The celebration continues with the 2021 Transformers Hall of Fame. This year we will celebrate the past and present as we induct two amazingly talented contributors to the brand and announce the fan voted favorites for both Best WFC Kingdom Toy and Favorite Beast Wars Season 1 Character. Lastly, Behold, as we unveil a Unicron companion pack to help you bring the epic final battle of The Transformers: The Movie to life with Ben Burnley, lead singer of Breaking Benjamin. Be prepared for huge surprises and exclusive reveals seen first here! We can’t wait to share it all with you!

Panelists:

Rachel, Marketing
Mark, Design
Ben, Marketing
Special Guest: Ben Burnley, Lead Singer of Breaking Benjamin

So the figures we will see are most probably:

Core:
Skywarp
Hot Rod
Iguanus

Deluxe:
Skids
Dragstrip
Prime Arcee
Kickback

Voyager:
Blaster
Bulkhead

Leader:
Lazer Optimus Prime

And that Pulsecon exclusive reformatting Galvatron

william-james88 wrote:Since there is no mention of any "Kingdom wave 5", it begs to question when that will be revealed.

My guess is it won't be. Pipes and Slammer will just start appearing at retail out of nowhere and then pre-orders will unceremoniously go up on the Internet something like a month or two later once Hasbro realise the cat's out of the bag. Keep in mind Hasbro never officially announced Shadow Panther, Waspinator or the main retail version of Tigatron. The brand team chose instead to ignore new Kingdom product and focus all of their marketing on Haslab Victory Saber. I don't think it's a coincidence that A) the Golden Disk Collection figures didn't start getting revealed until a point where it was obvious that Victory Saber would meet its minimum funding goal, B) pre-orders for Shadow Panther, Waspinator and Tigatron didn't start appearing on sites like Hasbro Pulse until after that minimum goal was met, and C) Hasbro didn't start the 2021 Hall of Fame vote (their first official acknowledgement of Pipes and Slammer by the way) until after the backing period for Victory Saber ended.
Either way, I'm looking forward to the Transformers panel for PulseCon, but I probably won't watch it live because I hate how visibly uncomfortable the presenters and brand team always are during these streams. My main hope is that Legacy wave 1 is revealed in its entirity, and it isn't just one Deluxe, one Voyager and one Leader, with the rest of the stream being awkward, nervous babbling from the designers about how great Transformers: Prime is.

Just by Coincidence I have this day off: Good
I'll likely be traveling for our weekend getaway so I'll probably miss all of this: Bad (?)
The First wave dosen't really have anything that I'll likely want: Good

If there are any unforseen surprises, I'll probably be able to catch up with them sooner than later .

Wasn't one of the *Energon Monsters* (Core or Deluxe) supposed to be in the first wave?

I hope we get a Laser Ultra Magnus later in the line.

Munkky wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Since there is no mention of any "Kingdom wave 5", it begs to question when that will be revealed.

My guess is it won't be. Pipes and Slammer will just start appearing at retail out of nowhere and then pre-orders will unceremoniously go up on the Internet something like a month or two later once Hasbro realise the cat's out of the bag. Keep in mind Hasbro never officially announced Shadow Panther, Waspinator or the main retail version of Tigatron.

Waspinator and Shadow Panther were officially announced through retailers, as happens a lot of the times.

o.supreme wrote:Just by Coincidence I have this day off: Good
I'll likely be traveling for our weekend getaway so I'll probably miss all of this: Bad (?)
The First wave dosen't really have anything that I'll likely want: Good

If there are any unforseen surprises, I'll probably be able to catch up with them sooner than later .

Wasn't one of the *Energon Monsters* (Core or Deluxe) supposed to be in the first wave?

Not according to the wave breakdown we got.

Wow there packing a lot into that forty minute panel time. I am very interested to see what the legacy figures look like.

I'm excited to see a lot of these figures, but especially Laser Prime. Really hope he lives up to my lofty expectations, lol.

These will be fairly interesting to see. Some of them I'm sure we have a fairly good idea of what they look like, like Skywarp, the others I can't wait to see.

Hopefully some Armada reveals!

Day 657 of waiting for Transformers Armada Masterpiece news.

TulioDude wrote:Hopefully some Armada reveals!

There will ne none. The article states everything we might see and none of it is Armada.

So bizarre to me that they just...never officially revealed large chunks of the Kingdom line. Such an odd choice.

Doesn't seem to have hurt them too bad, though, Tigatron preorders were gone in like 1 day. Hope he makes it to retail so I can grab one.

TulioDude wrote:Hopefully some Armada reveals!

Day 657 of waiting for Transformers Armada Masterpiece news.

There should be an Armada Starscream in Legacy, but not in this wave

Hey does anybody know how much Ravage is gonna be? And if he's the only exclusive Transformers figure I need to worry about securing?

I'm a little surprised that I'm most excited for DRAGSTRIP and SKIDS instead of Bulkhead or Arcee, but that's because of what we've heard they're doing for the non-G1 characters. Hopefully they turn out better than I'm fearing, but I'm not optimistic

Mistaken_Table wrote:Hey does anybody know how much Ravage is gonna be? And if he's the only exclusive Transformers figure I need to worry about securing?

$52,99 and probably.

william-james88 wrote:

TulioDude wrote:Hopefully some Armada reveals!

There will ne none. The article states everything we might see and none of it is Armada.

william-james88 wrote:So the figures we will see are most probably:

New Stunticons, eh? While I have a problem with CW Motormaster, the rest were fine. I guess we'll see how Dragstrip looks and if he's CW compatible.

Kickback's welcome. We need deluxe class Insecticons!

Blaster - I may get just to have. I'm happy with Label Blaster.

Bulkhead - welcome. I don't have him. But I still may not get him.

Laser OP - Make it Scourge and we'll talk.

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

Mistaken_Table wrote:Hey does anybody know how much Ravage is gonna be? And if he's the only exclusive Transformers figure I need to worry about securing?

$52,99 and probably.

There's also Unicron/Reformatting Galvatron.

Gauntlet101010 wrote:Laser OP - Make it Scourge and we'll talk.

Rumored/leaked as a Walmart exclusive.

Do you all think that they would have copies at pulse con or tfcon?

Rysquad wrote:I hope we get a Laser Ultra Magnus later in the line.

We'll get Scourge (named Black Convoy). As for Magnus, we are getting a SG Magnus. Now smart money is on him using the Kingdom magnus mold, but you never know, they might use the Laser OP mode to better match the original comic.

Mistaken_Table wrote:Hey does anybody know how much Ravage is gonna be? And if he's the only exclusive Transformers figure I need to worry about securing?

The price was written above. I already secured my copy from EB Games which will be waiting for me friday morning. And yes, there is another exclusive, it's in the article. It's the Unicron Galvatron pack. Price should be around the $70 mark.

Gauntlet101010 wrote:New Stunticons, eh? While I have a problem with CW Motormaster, the rest were fine. I guess we'll see how Dragstrip looks and if he's CW compatible.

Laser OP - Make it Scourge and we'll talk.

I'm pretty sure he won't be CW compatible. Still don't get why people are hoping it is. I'd rather they give us something good and not force the integration of something from the past.

TulioDude wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

TulioDude wrote:Hopefully some Armada reveals!

There will ne none. The article states everything we might see and none of it is Armada.

william-james88 wrote:So the figures we will see are most probably:

You're fun.

And sadly what I meant was that we aren't sure if we are seeing all those figures from wave 1 or just some of them. But yeah, any figure revealed would be a figure mentioned on the list in the article.

But don't worry, you'll get an Armada Starscream later.

One of the strong play features of the Combiner Wars was that they could mix and match with anyone else ( homaging Scramble Combiners). Having "better" Stunticons/Menasor in Legacy that are not compatible lessens the desirability. Or may be a back door test to see if there is a market to do combiners All over again, which, as a fan of Combiners, I really don't want.

Personally, I'm hoping for CW compatibility for the sake of Menasor not standing out too much, and so that while we wait for the Commander Motormaster I could use CW Motormaster as a torso. Plus, if they are CW compatible, that also opens the door for more custom limbs that aren't the same CW shells

Combiner Wars ports are desirable because you can, in theory, mix and match.

Also, I'd rather just get Motormaster over all 5 Stunticons since I'm fine with the Stunticons I already have. And linewise, I wouldn't want Combiners to take over again. If they have all new ports I worry we'll get new versions of everyone eventually and that'd be a waste. The CW versions are fine.

o.supreme wrote:One of the strong play features of the Combiner Wars was that they could mix and match with anyone else ( homaging Scramble Combiners). Having "better" Stunticons/Menasor in Legacy that are not compatible lessens the desirability. Or may be a back door test to see if there is a market to do combiners All over again, which, as a fan of Combiners, I really don't want.

Funny. As a fan of Combiners, I want new ones. I have a feeling they will all still connect via some sort of Scramble City klooge, anyway. That's part of the gimmick. Plus, Menasor sucked.