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Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Cheetron » Mon Mar 30, 2020 7:09 pm

Now that's how you go from one tantalizing toy to instant cancel without regrets in under 5 seconds.

Just one toasty Magnus. Pass
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby o.supreme » Mon Mar 30, 2020 8:53 pm

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Well I finally got myself a Rung today, so I can close the book on Siege (well almost...). I find it surreal that a character that has a mild fan following in North America due to IDW comics, is only decently affordable from Japan currently.

Yeah I know he's getting a re-release in Earthrise, but with the way things are going, who knows when that will be? I've still never seen Soundbarrrier or Smashdown on the pegs, only by goading Target employees was I able to get Soundbarrier (got Siege Smashdown thankfully the one time I saw him last year).

Because PotP, Siege & ER had pretty much the same releases in both Hasbro & TT markets, there's been little information of them online. This is the only TT Siege item I've picked up. The packaging differences are minimal, but I thought they were cool enough I'll probably keep it.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Mon Mar 30, 2020 9:04 pm

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I find it interesting that Takara's Siege logo is only similar to rather than exactly the same as Hasbro's Siege logo, when one would think that they wouldn't have bothered to change the logo's design in the first place since the name itself is still the same and there doesn't seem to be any valid reason for Takara to change the logo at all.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Mon Mar 30, 2020 10:12 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:I find it interesting that Takara's Siege logo is only similar to rather than exactly the same as Hasbro's Siege logo, when one would think that they wouldn't have bothered to change the logo's design in the first place since the name itself is still the same and there doesn't seem to be any valid reason for Takara to change the logo at all.


Not quite the same, but it's all semantics:

Hasbro: Transformers Generations War For Cybertron Trilogy: Siege
TakaraTomy: Transformers Siege

All the latter did was inflate the "Transformers" part of the logo to make it stand out more, really... in addition to reusing the US card backs for Battle Masters it looks like. >:oP
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Emerje » Mon Mar 30, 2020 10:18 pm

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I saw two Rungs at Target just this past Friday so they're still getting stock from their warehouses (doubt Hasbro is still shipping them in). I would have taken a picture, but I really didn't want to linger around the store too long and if it weren't for that coupon last week I wouldn't have gone at all. Maybe I'll check again tomorrow while I'm out scavenging for food.

BTW, here's the Netflix cast in their holomatter avatars:

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Really feels like fans came up with all of the best ideas and what we got was the worst case scenario. Oh well, I'll keep my pre-order because it isn't any worse than the other figures in the series. I guess it's really our own faults for building up expectations when Hasbro never actually said Magnus himself would be anything special. Rung is almost exactly what I expected, though I was thinking clear purple.

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Mon Mar 30, 2020 10:26 pm

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JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:I find it interesting that Takara's Siege logo is only similar to rather than exactly the same as Hasbro's Siege logo, when one would think that they wouldn't have bothered to change the logo's design in the first place since the name itself is still the same and there doesn't seem to be any valid reason for Takara to change the logo at all.


Not quite the same, but it's all semantics:

Hasbro: Transformers Generations War For Cybertron Trilogy: Siege
TakaraTomy: Transformers Siege

All the latter did was inflate the "Transformers" part of the logo to make it stand out more, really... in addition to reusing the US card backs for Battle Masters it looks like. >:oP
I meant the name in the logo is the same. They're both "Transformers: Siege - War For Cybertron Trilogy"

Compare the following:

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Same words, but Takara bizarrely saw fit to change the look of the logo's top half.
"When there's gold feathers, punch behind you!!"

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Mon Mar 30, 2020 10:30 pm

Motto: "The only good is knowledge, and the only evil is ignorance."
I guess to make it even more obvious it's "Transformers" and not some lookalike line I guess :P

And Magnus... eh, gonna wait for an Earth Mode one.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Deadput » Tue Mar 31, 2020 12:08 am

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So yes, RT have a part to play in this new series and rest assured of it goes wrong, there is plenty of people involved to pass the blame ball to.

Strange, I remember hearing awhile back that their role wasn't that big in the development of the show, but that was months ago so something might of changed.

They have a part to play but their not the main creators nor are they the ones doing the animation (that would be Polygon), they could probably mess something up sure but honestly when's the last time a Transformers show wasn't criticized to hell like Transformers was ever meant to be high art?
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Agent 53 » Tue Mar 31, 2020 12:29 am

-Kanrabat- wrote:Compared to the stellar deco on Megs and that Seeker, this Magnus look just dirty.

I think that's the idea, he's supposed to look dirty.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby ZeldaTheSwordsman » Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:48 am

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Agent 53 wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:Compared to the stellar deco on Megs and that Seeker, this Magnus look just dirty.

I think that's the idea, he's supposed to look dirty.
Thing is, he looks dirty in a "toy left out in the mud" way, not dirty in a "realistically weathered warrior robot" way.

Hasbro should have put someone from their Star Wars team in charge of the weathering for SIEGE, I think that would have given better results. Alternatively, they could have used whoever did Armada Galvatron's deco:
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Observation I thought I'd share. Some have said that the transparent wheels on the SIEGE Datsuns make them look more Cybertronian. I disagree. Transparent wheels make them look alien, but to me such wheels suggest not Cybertronian but Velocitronian:
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I freely admit that part of that is bias from being a Cybertron fan. But still, all the characters designed as Velocitronians for Cybertron did have transparent wheels. Meanwhile in G1, every carformer who wasn't a hovercar had rubber tires even if they had a Cybertronian altmode:
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby no-one » Tue Mar 31, 2020 9:12 am

Sabrblade wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:I find it interesting that Takara's Siege logo is only similar to rather than exactly the same as Hasbro's Siege logo, when one would think that they wouldn't have bothered to change the logo's design in the first place since the name itself is still the same and there doesn't seem to be any valid reason for Takara to change the logo at all.
Not quite the same, but it's all semantics:

Hasbro: Transformers Generations War For Cybertron Trilogy: Siege
TakaraTomy: Transformers Siege

All the latter did was inflate the "Transformers" part of the logo to make it stand out more, really... in addition to reusing the US card backs for Battle Masters it looks like. >:oP
I meant the name in the logo is the same. They're both "Transformers: Siege - War For Cybertron Trilogy"

Compare the following:

[img]TakSiege.jpg[/img]
[img]HasSiege.jpg[/img]

Same words, but Takara bizarrely saw fit to change the look of the logo's top half.
To me the Takara box looks a little like a KO. Maybe because I'm just used to seeing Hasbro's packaging or maybe Hasbro's just looks aesthetically better to me. :-?
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby o.supreme » Tue Mar 31, 2020 12:21 pm

Motto: "Quis custodiet ipsos custodes"
Sabrblade wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:I find it interesting that Takara's Siege logo is only similar to rather than exactly the same as Hasbro's Siege logo, when one would think that they wouldn't have bothered to change the logo's design in the first place since the name itself is still the same and there doesn't seem to be any valid reason for Takara to change the logo at all.


Not quite the same, but it's all semantics:

Hasbro: Transformers Generations War For Cybertron Trilogy: Siege
TakaraTomy: Transformers Siege

All the latter did was inflate the "Transformers" part of the logo to make it stand out more, really... in addition to reusing the US card backs for Battle Masters it looks like. >:oP
I meant the name in the logo is the same. They're both "Transformers: Siege - War For Cybertron Trilogy"

Compare the following:

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Same words, but Takara bizarrely saw fit to change the look of the logo's top half.


Yeah I noticed that. Also While Hasbro's packaging has TT logo, TT didn't bother to return the favor on their toys :lol: the back is also interesting, they just slapped a white sticker with all TT legal verbiage/warnings etc... but only half covers the original hasbro card heh....
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby o.supreme » Tue Mar 31, 2020 12:26 pm

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Yeah, I'm pretty sure there was a resounding sigh of disappointment at a basically 90% the same looking Ultra Magnus.

I am still interested in getting the 5 Battlemasters separately. I was able to get the others from Exclusive sets sold last year as long as I jumped on them fast, these might be a little harder to obtain though...
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby TF-fan kev777 » Wed Apr 01, 2020 2:34 pm

Well great, got an update from Walmart. Scrapface and Mirage should ship tomorrow, but Hotlink is delayed until June. :HEADHURTS:
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby 1984forever » Wed Apr 01, 2020 2:36 pm

TF-fan kev777 wrote:Well great, got an update from Walmart. Scrapface and Mirage should ship tomorrow, but Hotlink is delayed until June. :HEADHURTS:

Yeah, delayed until 6/16. I ordered them on 2/22.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby AcademyofDrX » Wed Apr 01, 2020 2:44 pm

I only ordered the multipacks, and all three of those were delayed. I got a separate email for each, so don't read too much into it if only some show new dates at first.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Flashwave » Wed Apr 01, 2020 2:56 pm

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby sol magnus » Wed Apr 01, 2020 3:19 pm

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Rodimus Knight » Wed Apr 01, 2020 3:25 pm

Magnus 5/28 and apparently it was so important they sent the email to me twice.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby 1984forever » Wed Apr 01, 2020 3:48 pm

I'm not waiting until June for my 3 Hotlinks. If USA scalpers get them first in the $60 range, then I'm cancelling.
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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Emerje » Wed Apr 01, 2020 3:49 pm

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Weird that we're all getting different ship dates. I didn't get any emails, but I now have 4 shipments coming:

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Evil Eye » Wed Apr 01, 2020 3:51 pm

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ǝuoǝɥʇʎɹɐɔ wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:I find it interesting that Takara's Siege logo is only similar to rather than exactly the same as Hasbro's Siege logo, when one would think that they wouldn't have bothered to change the logo's design in the first place since the name itself is still the same and there doesn't seem to be any valid reason for Takara to change the logo at all.
Not quite the same, but it's all semantics:

Hasbro: Transformers Generations War For Cybertron Trilogy: Siege
TakaraTomy: Transformers Siege

All the latter did was inflate the "Transformers" part of the logo to make it stand out more, really... in addition to reusing the US card backs for Battle Masters it looks like. >:oP
I meant the name in the logo is the same. They're both "Transformers: Siege - War For Cybertron Trilogy"

Compare the following:

[img]TakSiege.jpg[/img]
[img]HasSiege.jpg[/img]

Same words, but Takara bizarrely saw fit to change the look of the logo's top half.
To me the Takara box looks a little like a KO. Maybe because I'm just used to seeing Hasbro's packaging or maybe Hasbro's just looks aesthetically better to me. :-?

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Re: Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Discussion Thread

Postby Rodimus Knight » Wed Apr 01, 2020 4:21 pm

1984forever wrote:I'm not waiting until June for my 3 Hotlinks. If USA scalpers get them first in the $60 range, then I'm cancelling.


I'm hoping Hot Link shows up in store at some point. I'm hoping it'll be safe to go to stores at some point too though. :D

But I realized how I missed him when I did my order, I used the links from one of the articles here and they didn't have him in the list. :*(
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