OptiMagnus10 wrote:Dagon wrote:OptiMagnus10 wrote:Burn wrote:I understand what you are saying, ok, but being open minded and accepting and stuff is a two way street. People probably shouldn't hope that a movie you like will fail, but not everyone is going to like everything. Sure some people have been jags about the Bay movies, but that's not fair to me either.
I didn't like Revenge of the Fallen, and I've stated that before. I have never yelled and screamed about how it sucks or it's for morons or anything, but I get yelled at because people do that. So, if I'm not supposed to say that I didn't like something you liked, why can people yell at me because some other guy was less than considerate? Some one told me I had a persecution complex and did this whole psycho analysis on me like they know me as a person because I didnt like a movie, but it's me who's the closed minded and insensitive one? Right. I didn't like the movie. I never got loud and wild about it, and I didn't let other peoples' crybabying "ruin the franchise" for me. Sometimes, you liking something needs to be good enough for you, and not the approval of every other Internet persona.
Well, I'm glad you haven't yelled and screamed that it sucks. That says you are open minded. But I don't understand what you mean by you getting yelled at for something you didn't do. Also, I'm not saying we shouldn't say we don't like something, but it's when we hound people for something they like, and our only reason is "because it sucks and it's for morons". Those aren't real reasons. And yes, I have a few issues with TF2. The stupid sexual jokes, the high mom, Jolt had almost NO SCREEN TIME. I really wanted Jolt to have a big role...ok I got off track there. I hope when you discuss with others why you don't like the movies, you also give real reasons as to why you don't. Just saying it sucks is a close minded statement.
And someone tried to do some psycho analysis on you? Ok that's just a little out there.
Yeah, someone listed all my lifes' problems, based on my dislike of ROTF. For the record, they were wrong on every point, as far as I remember.
I'd like to think that I can express my dislike of ROTF in a sensible and rational fashion, but look man, this whole discussion and all of its' peripherals boils down to a matter of perception. Whether you're right or you're wrong, or you like something or don't, those are matters of your perception. I can explain something to you in the calmest, most rational way possible. But if you perceive it differently, then I'm being antagonistic. It kind of boils down to what really matters more, what I mean or what you interpret. If I call you a jerk but I mean it as a joke, what''s more important? That it was supposed to be a joke, or that you don't like being called a jerk? Yes yes, politeness and everything, but what I'm talking about is the logic of the example. What means more, intent or interpretation? What if I call you a jerk maliciously and you take it as a compliment? Am I still Hitleresque for calling you a jerk even though you've taken it as a positive?
In the end, Burn is right, among other people,but it's early and I didn't get much sleep, so Burn stuck in my head. IF you like some thing and other people don't, so what? I typed it somewhere last night and while it may have been seen as antagonistic, it wasn't meant to be. If you need the approval of others to validate your enjoyment maybe your enjoyment isn't as genuine as you try to portray it as. Yous are general, not specific to you, ok? Yes it's irritating to have people slag things you like, but if you like them then why are you so dependant on the views of others to validate you?
Ultimately we're typing on the internet. We are faceless people here. Sure we have screen names but so what? Dagon isn't my name, it's Don, and I'm living in Chicago and I prefer G1 because I grew up with it and not because I didn;t love some dumb summer action movie. I am a collection of my various parts and elements and thoughts, and I project those things onto text I read off my computer screen. I make a typing mistake and suddenly a word has too many capital letters or the wrong punctuation mark or a number and suddenly you read it and think you percieve hostility or joviality or whatever, and all it was was a typo. If I use an exclamation mark it doesn't mean I'm angry at you, but if that's what you percieve it as, then what am I going to say? If I see your sig pic and don't like it or it reminds me of someone I hate in real life, then I'm going to read your post differently, and no amount of trying to persuade me out of it is going to change that, because it's human nature, not personal.
Nobody's ever going to see it your way, because that's YOUR WAY of seeing, and that's a part of the human mind. We are most definately entitled to our opinions, but that really doesn't mean we are beholden to accept the opinions of others. I don't even have to try to agree with you, or see things your way, but as a decent person I should at least respect that you have a differing opinion and I do. And as for ROTF, the people who scream lunacies about it are far fewer than people like me who just didn't like it, and the same with Animated and even with real life issues. If we want a place to express our opinions then we need to be ready to deal with opposing opinions. A discussion board where everyone is made to agree, whether it's by rules or other nefarious means, is boring. I'm glad you like the Bay movies, I really am. But I don't have to, and you have no right to try to make me, or to insinuate that I must, or insinuate that I'm an awful person becasue I dont. I said it before: opposition is true friendship.
Ya gotta go to bed sometime.
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