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Well lets see. I have the money to buy said Transformer, but can't because jerk-off over here hid it because he/she is broke. And you call "scalpers" bad. Your no better.

Obvious Prime wrote:

DorkimusPrime wrote:you people are asshats, hiding figures from people who actually have the money to buy them.

Yeah, were asshats. But were PROUD asshats.

Amen!

fnlrun wrote:Well lets see. I have the money to buy said Transformer, but can't because jerk-off over here hid it because he/she is broke. And you call "scalpers" bad. Your no better.

hey if u have the money u should u have gotten there first, if u didnt too bad, if we need to hide transformers to get them later that day and avoid paying a super high price for it on ebay then we'll just do that

my friend, I go to both walmarts at 6:15 am each morning on my way to work. I have bought and re-sold close to 15, 09 Camaro Bumblebee's. And my auctions ALWAYS start at $9.99

Each time I look for TFs like wally world, I go to furniture to look for a hidden tf. Who cares if people hide figures, so much fun to find that figure and stomp on their hopes of getting when they get paid.

Ahh the joys of watching shinies and buying a figure you want and can find.


And to the ones who do hide figs..Ignore the bashers, least we're not rude and asshats like the hotwheels and starwars collectors who get escorted out kicking and screaming making threats that the jedi council will not be pleased.

Today at Belton wal mart behind a few other tf toys was a voyager class Optimus Prime.Some poor person must of hid it but not very well ha ha ha.

DorkimusPrime wrote:

The Master Blaster wrote:It's called keeping tabs. When we don't have money with us and find something we want, we're gonna make sure nobody else gets it till we come back for it.

And that's just bullshit. Total five-year-old nonsense pulled off by immature little brats that run through stores. "I'm going to hide something because if I can't have it, nobody else can, either." I hope that if another collector catches you doing it, that they take it from your hiding spot and then punch you in the face.

So let's say you see a tf you really want, but you're short.
There's only one left, and you're unlikely to ever see it again.

Are you gonna let some punk get it, that will more than likely break it before the week is over? Or let a scalper get hold of it and sell it at an inflated price?



I seriously doubt it.

And if someone wants to throw down with me over a toy, I'll punch THEM in the face.

Finders keepers, losers weepers.

Nobody else has the same consideration as you, so why should I be left short for the doing the 'right' thing?

The Master Blaster wrote:

DorkimusPrime wrote:

The Master Blaster wrote:It's called keeping tabs. When we don't have money with us and find something we want, we're gonna make sure nobody else gets it till we come back for it.

And that's just bullshit. Total five-year-old nonsense pulled off by immature little brats that run through stores. "I'm going to hide something because if I can't have it, nobody else can, either." I hope that if another collector catches you doing it, that they take it from your hiding spot and then punch you in the face.

So let's say you see a tf you really want, but you're short.
There's only one left, and you're unlikely to ever see it again.

Are you gonna let some punk get it, that will more than likely break it before the week is over? Or let a scalper get hold of it and sell it at an inflated price?



I seriously doubt it.

And if someone wants to throw down with me over a toy, I'll punch THEM in the face.

Finders keepers, losers weepers.

Nobody else has the same consideration as you, so why should I be left short for the doing the 'right' thing?

your right master blaster, were doing good by saving the toys from being broken by small kids

Ploptimus Prime wrote:

The Master Blaster wrote:

Ploptimus Prime wrote:If you have no money, what are you doing at the store in the first place?

It's called keeping tabs. When we don't have money with us and find something we want, we're gonna make sure nobody else gets it till we come back for it.


Here's one for you.

The topic disinterests you. What are you doing posting in it?

Disinterest has nothing to do with it. I simply don't understand the motivation. I guess I'm just not a cheap sh*t who would deny a kid/other collector who actually has some money the chance to buy the toy. But hey, you go ahead and keep on hiding crap around the store like a retarded squirrel burying his nuts. Very mature. Don't call greed "keeping tabs". Big difference.

Most of you bitch and moan about scalping, but have no problem denying others the toy they want, simply out of selfishness, by hiding it away in a drawer like a 5 year old who has to wait for his birthday money. Grow up.

I'm also not buying for a second the idea that you're at the store buying groceries, clothes, etc. and can't afford an extra $10-$20 toy and so you hide it. Please. If that's the case, you have bigger problems and should be spending your time and money in more productive ways than hiding toys in retail stores.

I am not a cheap ****. Living in the UK, I pay twice as much for my tfs than you. So I could hypothetically call you the cheap ****.

In fact, my income is very constricted, but I don't see why my value of life should suffer for it. If there's something I want for can't afford at that point in time, I'll make sure I put it somewhere I can get it later.

Later being anything from an hour to two or three days.



Really, this pisses me off. Because I have to make a run home to grab the money I need, I should just hand the toy over to YOU?!

Suuuuuuuuure.
What gives you the right to deny me something I've found and want, because you want it? Who sounds like the 5 year old now?




And I would ask the staff to hold on to items for me.
But, because they are asshats, it doesn't work.


Not everyone on this god-foresaken rock is a saint.

autobot commander wrote:

The Master Blaster wrote:

DorkimusPrime wrote:

The Master Blaster wrote:It's called keeping tabs. When we don't have money with us and find something we want, we're gonna make sure nobody else gets it till we come back for it.

And that's just bullshit. Total five-year-old nonsense pulled off by immature little brats that run through stores. "I'm going to hide something because if I can't have it, nobody else can, either." I hope that if another collector catches you doing it, that they take it from your hiding spot and then punch you in the face.

So let's say you see a tf you really want, but you're short.
There's only one left, and you're unlikely to ever see it again.

Are you gonna let some punk get it, that will more than likely break it before the week is over? Or let a scalper get hold of it and sell it at an inflated price?



I seriously doubt it.

And if someone wants to throw down with me over a toy, I'll punch THEM in the face.

Finders keepers, losers weepers.

Nobody else has the same consideration as you, so why should I be left short for the doing the 'right' thing?

your right master blaster, were doing good by saving the toys from being broken by small kids

Ya that is why i got the Optimus I found today.Wich is funny cuz I saw a kid older that 4 that much I know,but I'm 15 what do I care.Ops is mine now

I hide my toys in my car after I bought them.

Hah ... hiding. Some of those places are pretty good. But I operate under a philosophy: if I ain't modivated enough to buy it when it's there then it just wasn't worth it to begin with. If I can't afford it, then I can't afford it. I usually don't regret passing something up.

But I can't begrudge people who hide things. In a hobby where people buy an entire skid of figures just to sell online ... I even had one guy who INTNETIONALLY bent the box of the last figure from a toyline he was interested in JUST to ruin it for a collector who might want it MISB later. So, hiding seems fair. And if someone else finds your figure then that's fair too.

Although. there's always just asking to put the thing on hold....

remember to go back for the toys you hide. if you leave them there and forget about them they wont be sold, thus on the store's comp it will still say they have them in stock. and if it says theyre still in stock, the store wont re-order more.

megatron7 wrote: ...and before u judge people who hide toys, just think about it, maybe its a parent who went to walmart to just get some home stuff, or grocery, or whatever, and happens to see a toy that their kid keeps complaining but just had enough money for what they went for in the first place, shouldnt they be able to maybe hide it and return for it that same day later?? wouldnt that kid getting the toy be better than the parent leaving it behind, and maybe a scalper getting it and selling it for ten times more??

Honestly, I really don't care whether or not people hide toys...there are more important things in life to worry about. However, I've seen this argument, or something similar, posed several times in this thread. My question is: if said person is at the store for another purpose, but finds rare figure X and doesn't have enough money with them, but is truly going to come back that day for the now hidden figure...why doesn't said person just buy the elusive figure that trip and come back for the remaining items on the intended purpose list? They’re probably not going to run out of soda or whatever that day…

I understand food, clothes, toilet paper, etc is more important than toys, but it seems in these hypothetical scenarios there's some key element in the fact that this person is coming back "that same day"...why not just buy some of your things in a different order?

If you truly want something then you should do everything in your power to get it. in this case hide it. its just like hide and go seek; You want to win so you try to find the best hiding place.

When i hide something i do it in a camera blindspot. just yesterday i went to target looking for a barricade but all i saw were brawl(leader and deluxe) swindel scorpinox and wreakage. i turned to leave and in the corner of my eye i saw barricade hidden behind 3-4 action battelers. someone had smashed the plastic on the front to make hime thiner and placed hime only 5 pegs away. it was a good place to hide it because action battelers are pretty much poinless and dont sell well but in the end I triumphed

Nice very nice.

NotEnoughKibble wrote:

megatron7 wrote: ...and before u judge people who hide toys, just think about it, maybe its a parent who went to walmart to just get some home stuff, or grocery, or whatever, and happens to see a toy that their kid keeps complaining but just had enough money for what they went for in the first place, shouldnt they be able to maybe hide it and return for it that same day later?? wouldnt that kid getting the toy be better than the parent leaving it behind, and maybe a scalper getting it and selling it for ten times more??

Honestly, I really don't care whether or not people hide toys...there are more important things in life to worry about. However, I've seen this argument, or something similar, posed several times in this thread. My question is: if said person is at the store for another purpose, but finds rare figure X and doesn't have enough money with them, but is truly going to come back that day for the now hidden figure...why doesn't said person just buy the elusive figure that trip and come back for the remaining items on the intended purpose list? They’re probably not going to run out of soda or whatever that day…

I understand food, clothes, toilet paper, etc is more important than toys, but it seems in these hypothetical scenarios there's some key element in the fact that this person is coming back "that same day"...why not just buy some of your things in a different order?

*points to second bolded part of quote*

You're right. That would be sensible. Problem is, if you're married, or a kid at the mercy of a parent's travel accommodations....this wouldn't work.

My current girlfriend would have no problem doing just that (in fact she has), but my other girlfriends would stand firm and say "No. You can come back for that stupid toy, later. You really don't even need it, it's really pathetic." So, I ended up losing out completely. I didn't hide it, couldn't put it on Layaway (they wouldn't take the time, nor have the patience to let me wait in line) so I ended up losing my chance at getting it. (Went back later that evening, sure enough...gone, gone, gone.)

Looking back, if I had thought of hiding the figure, I would've. I should've, I could've. I ended up paying almost twice the figure's cost in gas just so I could find it in another town.

There's legitimate arguments on both sides of this issue, but neither side is 100% right. There is a middle ground, yet no one's willing to bend and admit it.

Alright, I confess. I'm such an a@@h*le and am very evil. Here is what I do to hide figures I see in a store:

Step 1: I go to a store (Wal Mart, Target, TRU, etc.)
Step 2: I go directly, or indirectly (depending on how I feel) to the toy section
Step 3: I look for Transformers I want
Step 4: If I find a TF I like and want, I quickly snatch it up
Step 5: I leave the toy section with desired Transformer
Step 6: I look around in other sections to see what is there (like electronics, etc)
Step 7: I go to the cash register and buy it
Step 8: I bring my new TF home, and keep it there so that no one slse can buy it, mwa-hahahahahahaha!
Step 9: I enjoy having my new treasure

The End.

i was at wally world the other day and a women was sweeping under the shelves and when she got to the action figure section she swept out four or five Deluxes and a few scouts. I just thought it was funny that people would hide them there. I never thought to look down there. It would be pretty funny to see a grown man on the the floor at walmart reaching under the shelves.

I actulley saw that once the toy he got out was Bonecrusher.

Sportimus Prime wrote:Alright, I confess. I'm such an a@@h*le and am very evil. Here is what I do to hide figures I see in a store:

Step 1: I go to a store (Wal Mart, Target, TRU, etc.)
Step 2: I go directly, or indirectly (depending on how I feel) to the toy section
Step 3: I look for Transformers I want
Step 4: If I find a TF I like and want, I quickly snatch it up
Step 5: I leave the toy section with desired Transformer
Step 6: I look around in other sections to see what is there (like electronics, etc)
Step 7: I go to the cash register and buy it
Step 8: I bring my new TF home, and keep it there so that no one slse can buy it, mwa-hahahahahahaha!
Step 9: I enjoy having my new treasure

The End.

And that's how the story SHOULD go

I used to hide toys...when I was a CHILD. That's how children think...if they don't want someone to have something they like they hide it. I have 2 kids and they do it too, it's just common behavior FOR CHILDREN (seeing a trend here?)

Nowadays if I don't have the money for it, it stays on the shelf for the next person to find who CAN buy it. If it happens to go to a little kid, GOOD. At least it will make him happy for godsakes (isn't that what toys are for?).

I remember watching this thread before registering and I could not believe what I was reading about grown adults HIDING TOYS FROM KIDS. Now granted, not all who do the hiding are adults, but you ARE old enough to know that what you are doing is picking on little kids basically...bottom line.

All the rationalization in the world won't change that fact.

We're not talking about a childish "I can't have it ever, so I'll hide it so no one else can get it." I don't see how hiding something so you can come back and buy it later is depriving a child of the toy anymore than buying it there and then would be.

There are circumstances which make this okay. Anyone judging anybody should be punched in the DI(l<.

I lost my wallet last week, so there goes my credit cards and debit card. I have 9 bucks left to my name until I get to the bank for a withdrawal, so god damn right I would hide something if I found it.

It's a good thing that I'm only looking for alternators right now, because I still have a paypal account that works!

Autobot032 wrote:*points to second bolded part of quote*

You're right. That would be sensible. Problem is, if you're married, or a kid at the mercy of a parent's travel accommodations....this wouldn't work.

My current girlfriend would have no problem doing just that (in fact she has), but my other girlfriends would stand firm and say "No. You can come back for that stupid toy, later. You really don't even need it, it's really pathetic." So, I ended up losing out completely. I didn't hide it, couldn't put it on Layaway (they wouldn't take the time, nor have the patience to let me wait in line) so I ended up losing my chance at getting it. (Went back later that evening, sure enough...gone, gone, gone.)

Looking back, if I had thought of hiding the figure, I would've. I should've, I could've. I ended up paying almost twice the figure's cost in gas just so I could find it in another town.

There's legitimate arguments on both sides of this issue, but neither side is 100% right. There is a middle ground, yet no one's willing to bend and admit it.

Well, for the first two points...if you're married then I would hope your spouse is supportive of your collecting. If not, maybe you shouldn't necessarily be collecting. If you're a kid, then hopefully your parents are willing (if able) to buy the figure and allow you to pay them for it when you get home.

Anyhow, I'm just debating for no real reason, so please don't take offense or feel I’m trying to imply you or others are in the wrong. Like I said, I don't much care if someone hides a toy. Yeah, I'd prefer to get it sooner than later, but if I want it bad enough I'm going to find it eventually...and I'll probably appreciate it all the more if it took a that much effort to find. It sucked that it took 3 months to find CC BB, but I tell you what...I was pretty flippin' pumped when I finally found him.

Sledge wrote:We're not talking about a childish "I can't have it ever, so I'll hide it so no one else can get it." I don't see how hiding something so you can come back and buy it later is depriving a child of the toy anymore than buying it there and then would be.

QFT. like i said earlier (or maybe in another thread), hiding is just part of the game.

besides, if a child really wants it, he could always ask the help of a salesperson to see if it is in stock; if it is, then the salesperson could look for it. if he finds it, then good, he can sell it to the kid. if not, too bad. it's not breaking the law or anything so people should not add a hint of morality to this practice.

bottom line: as long as you buy it, then do so.

i found out today that the mailboxes in the home-making section are prime hiding spots