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Postby Deadpool. » Sat Oct 27, 2007 4:23 am

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
Deadpool. wrote:
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
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sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:An other thing I would go as far as saying that the Batman in the comics is a different character then any of the Batman's that have made it to film.Even when were talking about how the books were coming out at the same time as the movies.The biggest factor in my point is this.
In the Batman movies batman kills.
In the comics Batman does not kill.

To me that alone is a major difference in their characters.
In the animated series, Batman doesnt kill either.


Thank you I seem to have forgoten that show....quess I was stuck on Trek.
Speaking of which, Batman TAS was really good...


I would say one of the best interpatations of the character ever made.
And Kevin Conroy did the voice very well too.
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Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Sat Oct 27, 2007 4:30 am

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sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
Deadpool. wrote:
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
Deadpool. wrote:
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:An other thing I would go as far as saying that the Batman in the comics is a different character then any of the Batman's that have made it to film.Even when were talking about how the books were coming out at the same time as the movies.The biggest factor in my point is this.
In the Batman movies batman kills.
In the comics Batman does not kill.

To me that alone is a major difference in their characters.
In the animated series, Batman doesnt kill either.


Thank you I seem to have forgoten that show....quess I was stuck on Trek.
Speaking of which, Batman TAS was really good...


I would say one of the best interpatations of the character ever made.
And Kevin Conroy did the voice very well too.


He's loged in more hours as Batman then anyone in History.
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Postby Deadpool. » Sat Oct 27, 2007 4:32 am

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
Deadpool. wrote:
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
Deadpool. wrote:
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
Deadpool. wrote:
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:An other thing I would go as far as saying that the Batman in the comics is a different character then any of the Batman's that have made it to film.Even when were talking about how the books were coming out at the same time as the movies.The biggest factor in my point is this.
In the Batman movies batman kills.
In the comics Batman does not kill.

To me that alone is a major difference in their characters.
In the animated series, Batman doesnt kill either.


Thank you I seem to have forgoten that show....quess I was stuck on Trek.
Speaking of which, Batman TAS was really good...


I would say one of the best interpatations of the character ever made.
And Kevin Conroy did the voice very well too.


He's loged in more hours as Batman then anyone in History.
Mark Hamill was great too. Too bad both off them were switched in the new Batman series.
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Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Sat Oct 27, 2007 4:43 am

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Deadpool. wrote:
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
Deadpool. wrote:
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
Deadpool. wrote:
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
Deadpool. wrote:
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:An other thing I would go as far as saying that the Batman in the comics is a different character then any of the Batman's that have made it to film.Even when were talking about how the books were coming out at the same time as the movies.The biggest factor in my point is this.
In the Batman movies batman kills.
In the comics Batman does not kill.

To me that alone is a major difference in their characters.
In the animated series, Batman doesnt kill either.


Thank you I seem to have forgoten that show....quess I was stuck on Trek.
Speaking of which, Batman TAS was really good...


I would say one of the best interpatations of the character ever made.
And Kevin Conroy did the voice very well too.


He's loged in more hours as Batman then anyone in History.
Mark Hamill was great too. Too bad both off them were switched in the new Batman series.


Pissed me off two.....at least Mark got a chance to play The Joker in a live action show :grin:
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Postby Deadpool. » Sat Oct 27, 2007 4:46 am

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
Deadpool. wrote:
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
Deadpool. wrote:
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
Deadpool. wrote:
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
Deadpool. wrote:
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:An other thing I would go as far as saying that the Batman in the comics is a different character then any of the Batman's that have made it to film.Even when were talking about how the books were coming out at the same time as the movies.The biggest factor in my point is this.
In the Batman movies batman kills.
In the comics Batman does not kill.

To me that alone is a major difference in their characters.
In the animated series, Batman doesnt kill either.


Thank you I seem to have forgoten that show....quess I was stuck on Trek.
Speaking of which, Batman TAS was really good...


I would say one of the best interpatations of the character ever made.
And Kevin Conroy did the voice very well too.


He's loged in more hours as Batman then anyone in History.
Mark Hamill was great too. Too bad both off them were switched in the new Batman series.


Pissed me off two.....at least Mark got a chance to play The Joker in a live action show :grin:
The Joker in The Dark Knight looks pretty scary....
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Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Sat Oct 27, 2007 4:57 am

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Deadpool. wrote:The Joker in The Dark Knight looks pretty scary....
I have such high hope for that film :-?
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Postby Deadpool. » Sat Oct 27, 2007 4:59 am

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Deadpool. wrote:The Joker in The Dark Knight looks pretty scary....
I have such high hope for that film :-?
Let's just hope that Batsie doesnt get a nipple-suit again....
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Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Sat Oct 27, 2007 5:04 am

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Deadpool. wrote:The Joker in The Dark Knight looks pretty scary....
I have such high hope for that film :-?
Let's just hope that Batsie doesnt get a nipple-suit again....


They didnt look so bad on Batgirl :grin:
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Postby Deadpool. » Sat Oct 27, 2007 5:10 am

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
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sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
Deadpool. wrote:The Joker in The Dark Knight looks pretty scary....
I have such high hope for that film :-?
Let's just hope that Batsie doesnt get a nipple-suit again....


They didnt look so bad on Batgirl :grin:
Well, Batgirl's a girl.... Batman's a guy so he doesnt exactly need them...lol.
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Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Sat Oct 27, 2007 5:12 am

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Deadpool. wrote:
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
Deadpool. wrote:
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
Deadpool. wrote:The Joker in The Dark Knight looks pretty scary....
I have such high hope for that film :-?
Let's just hope that Batsie doesnt get a nipple-suit again....


They didnt look so bad on Batgirl :grin:
Well, Batgirl's a girl.... Batman's a guy so he doesnt exactly need them...lol.


What I dont want to see is any shots of the Bat But :-x
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Postby Deadpool. » Sat Oct 27, 2007 5:14 am

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
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sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
Deadpool. wrote:
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
Deadpool. wrote:The Joker in The Dark Knight looks pretty scary....
I have such high hope for that film :-?
Let's just hope that Batsie doesnt get a nipple-suit again....


They didnt look so bad on Batgirl :grin:
Well, Batgirl's a girl.... Batman's a guy so he doesnt exactly need them...lol.


What I dont want to see is any shots of the Bat But :-x
Apparently the Batcycle's appearing in TDK...
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Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Sat Oct 27, 2007 5:24 am

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Deadpool. wrote:Apparently the Batcycle's appearing in TDK...

I've seen the design it looks pretty kool.
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Postby Deadpool. » Sat Oct 27, 2007 5:34 am

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Deadpool. wrote:Apparently the Batcycle's appearing in TDK...

I've seen the design it looks pretty kool.
Any idea if the Batmobile will still be the Tumbler?
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Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Sat Oct 27, 2007 5:37 am

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Deadpool. wrote:Apparently the Batcycle's appearing in TDK...

I've seen the design it looks pretty kool.
Any idea if the Batmobile will still be the Tumbler?


I've read that there may be two different Batmobile's in the new film so I would say that at least one of them would be the Tumbler.
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Postby Deadpool. » Sat Oct 27, 2007 5:40 am

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
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sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
Deadpool. wrote:Apparently the Batcycle's appearing in TDK...

I've seen the design it looks pretty kool.
Any idea if the Batmobile will still be the Tumbler?


I've read that there may be two different Batmobile's in the new film so I would say that at least one of them would be the Tumbler.
Woah.. Maybe the Tumbler somehow gets destroyed, or Batman needed a sleeker, faster Batmobile. I really liked the TAS and the Tim Burton versions.
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Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Sat Oct 27, 2007 5:45 am

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Deadpool. wrote:
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
Deadpool. wrote:
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
Deadpool. wrote:Apparently the Batcycle's appearing in TDK...

I've seen the design it looks pretty kool.
Any idea if the Batmobile will still be the Tumbler?


I've read that there may be two different Batmobile's in the new film so I would say that at least one of them would be the Tumbler.
Woah.. Maybe the Tumbler somehow gets destroyed, or Batman needed a sleeker, faster Batmobile. I really liked the TAS and the Tim Burton versions.


The leeked treatment of the film has it the other way around....the thumbler get wrecked and he need a tougher one.....but who knows if they'er going with that story.
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Postby Deadpool. » Sat Oct 27, 2007 5:47 am

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
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sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
Deadpool. wrote:
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
Deadpool. wrote:Apparently the Batcycle's appearing in TDK...

I've seen the design it looks pretty kool.
Any idea if the Batmobile will still be the Tumbler?


I've read that there may be two different Batmobile's in the new film so I would say that at least one of them would be the Tumbler.
Woah.. Maybe the Tumbler somehow gets destroyed, or Batman needed a sleeker, faster Batmobile. I really liked the TAS and the Tim Burton versions.


The leeked treatment of the film has it the other way around....the thumbler get wrecked and he need a tougher one.....but who knows if they'er going with that story.
Leaked stories tend to get trashed.... What's your fav Batman movie so far?
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Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Sat Oct 27, 2007 5:53 am

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Deadpool. wrote:Leaked stories tend to get trashed.... What's your fav Batman movie so far?


Thats a tought one to answer.........I have a week spot for the first Tim Burton film but the one that had the cloest resemblance to what a true Bat film should be was Begins.But they still got it wrong in a few area's.
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Postby Deadpool. » Sat Oct 27, 2007 5:55 am

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Deadpool. wrote:Leaked stories tend to get trashed.... What's your fav Batman movie so far?


Thats a tought one to answer.........I have a week spot for the first Tim Burton film but the one that had the cloest resemblance to what a true Bat film should be was Begins.But they still got it wrong in a few area's.
I felt that the Begins' origin part was a bit too draggy. And Ra's Al Ghul kinda sucked too. And the Scarecrow had a suit on!
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Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:23 am

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Deadpool. wrote:Leaked stories tend to get trashed.... What's your fav Batman movie so far?


Thats a tought one to answer.........I have a week spot for the first Tim Burton film but the one that had the cloest resemblance to what a true Bat film should be was Begins.But they still got it wrong in a few area's.
I felt that the Begins' origin part was a bit too draggy. And Ra's Al Ghul kinda sucked too. And the Scarecrow had a suit on!


Scarecrow was the only character that I had no complaints about.....Ras was so wrong it was laughable.
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Postby Saber Prime » Sat Oct 27, 2007 1:36 pm

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
Saber Prime wrote:Why did Bruce become Batman in the first place??

Depends on how you see it but basicly withnessing the death of his parents.
Saber Prime wrote:Why did this Bruce Wayne never became Batman.?

With the one I mention his parents never got killed.
Saber Prime wrote:What would happen if Batman's life had been the same as the normal Bruce Wayne's?

Whos to say...probly the same as the normal universe Batman...just because down deep there simular and may have made the same choices doesnt make them the same character.

There was an other universe Batman where he saw his parents die....but did not become Batman because he turned to the church and became a priest.How ever when he found out that it was the church that hirred Joe Chill to kill his parents he got pissed off and became batman.But he still was a priest by day.His character was different then our universe Batman because our batman isnt a relegus man.


You said it right there and I don't think you were realized you said it.

If Batman's parrents were never killed he could have lead the life of Bruce Wayne. The character is all about his individual potential to reach the top of any branch on his tree not what he is or is compaired to another version of himself.

Clones even if they're born at the same time have their own trees seperate from the DNA doner. Why this is? Because they're living in a completly different situation that the doner could never live through.

I can't think of anyone off hand other than one of my own Characters.

The Gothic Sword is a clone of Ducklingboy. Gothic Sword ran out of town and was living off the streets, constantly moving. He wanted his own life seperate from his doner's. The doner himself never actully knew the clone exsisted in the first place but if he did he would not understand what it's like to like to just wake up with someone elses memories, to only be a copy of someone else.

Other dimention versions of you are ot copies, they are you, they exsperience at least some parts of their lives same as you did.

Clones have no lives before their creation, they are only copies of you and exsperience everything completly different.

Haveing multiple clones created at the same time of the same person, each new clone is still a new character. By your thought they'd all be the same character because multiple clones all created at the same time from the same person tend to have the same personalitys. They can't be the same person though because what did I say before about co-exsisting with yourself? Clones can all co-exsist with eachother in the same time/dimention so they are all different characters.

I propose the idea that some where out there is a dimention where people, all people, focus their time an energy developing their 6th sense, their psychic ability. I belive everyone has the potential to do this as DeJaVu (spelling) is just a form of uncontrolled psychic ability. Now lets say that these people become so mentally powerfull that they can not only see their futures in their own dimention but the future of every dimention. Because of this their mental abilitys cause a riple effect throught each dimention. If one of these psychics is killed of unnatural causes every other version of that same person in every other dimention dies with them. Any clones of them that exsist however remain unaffected. This might soulve alot of unsolved deaths in our world. Spontanious combustion for one. How does it happen? Because his psychic counterpart in another dimention was killed in a fire so there for so was he here.
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Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Sat Oct 27, 2007 2:24 pm

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Saber Prime wrote:
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
Saber Prime wrote:Why did Bruce become Batman in the first place??

Depends on how you see it but basicly withnessing the death of his parents.
Saber Prime wrote:Why did this Bruce Wayne never became Batman.?

With the one I mention his parents never got killed.
Saber Prime wrote:What would happen if Batman's life had been the same as the normal Bruce Wayne's?

Whos to say...probly the same as the normal universe Batman...just because down deep there simular and may have made the same choices doesnt make them the same character.

There was an other universe Batman where he saw his parents die....but did not become Batman because he turned to the church and became a priest.How ever when he found out that it was the church that hirred Joe Chill to kill his parents he got pissed off and became batman.But he still was a priest by day.His character was different then our universe Batman because our batman isnt a relegus man.


Saber Prime wrote:You said it right there and I don't think you were realized you said it.

If Batman's parrents were never killed he could have lead the life of Bruce Wayne. The character is all about his individual potential to reach the top of any branch on his tree not what he is or is compaired to another version of himself...

Oh I know what I said but I also said it doesnt meen that it would have happened.There are so many ways he could have changed that it would be imposible to count.And they would all be different characters.

I'm guessing why we continue to disagree on this topic is because you are a man who heavly beleaves in God.Maybe not a big church goer but one that beleaves that your personalty is derived from your soul.Am I right?????


Saber Prime wrote:Clones even if they're born at the same time have their own trees seperate from the DNA doner. Why this is? Because they're living in a completly different situation that the doner could never live through.

I can't think of anyone off hand other than one of my own Characters.

The Gothic Sword is a clone of Ducklingboy. Gothic Sword ran out of town and was living off the streets, constantly moving. He wanted his own life seperate from his doner's. The doner himself never actully knew the clone exsisted in the first place but if he did he would not understand what it's like to like to just wake up with someone elses memories, to only be a copy of someone else...


Interesting character.

Saber Prime wrote:Other dimention versions of you are ot copies, they are you, they exsperience at least some parts of their lives same as you did..


You seemed to forget the Star Trek exsamples that I provied for you.The Ben Sisko of our universe was born a free man that had both a mother and a father in his life...he went to the academey entered Star Fleet got married had a son and so on....The Mirror universe Sisko was born in a slave camp...was sold at birth,never knew his parents or sisters never went to the academy or star fleet because there is none of ether in the mirror universe anymore....gets married but leaves her soon after to be a pirate for his slave masters, never has a son....Nether of the Ben Sisko's exsperience any of the parts of each others lives.The differences in their universes took place 330 years before ether was born .....so please tell me how there the same???

Saber Prime wrote:Clones have no lives before their creation, they are only copies of you and exsperience everything completly different.

Haveing multiple clones created at the same time of the same person, each new clone is still a new character. By your thought they'd all be the same character because multiple clones all created at the same time from the same person tend to have the same personalitys. They can't be the same person though because what did I say before about co-exsisting with yourself? Clones can all co-exsist with eachother in the same time/dimention so they are all different characters..


You keep reading things in my posts that I'm not even saying.All I asked you was what your opinon on that exsample was.I by no strech said that they would be the same character.You just assume that.You do know what they say about people who "ASSUME" anyway I know that they would be different characters I brought it up to bring in a Bobofet aspect to this debate

Saber Prime wrote:I propose the idea that some where out there is a dimention where people, all people, focus their time an energy developing their 6th sense, their psychic ability. I belive everyone has the potential to do this as DeJaVu (spelling) is just a form of uncontrolled psychic ability. Now lets say that these people become so mentally powerfull that they can not only see their futures in their own dimention but the future of every dimention. Because of this their mental abilitys cause a riple effect throught each dimention. If one of these psychics is killed of unnatural causes every other version of that same person in every other dimention dies with them. Any clones of them that exsist however remain unaffected. This might soulve alot of unsolved deaths in our world. Spontanious combustion for one. How does it happen? Because his psychic counterpart in another dimention was killed in a fire so there for so was he here.


Interesting idea.
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Postby Saber Prime » Sun Oct 28, 2007 1:47 am

Crap did it again.

I'll just answer the immediate question and answer the rest tomarrow.

I'm Athiest, I do not belive in God, Satain, angels, devils, Heaven, or Hell.
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Postby ThunderThruster » Sun Oct 28, 2007 5:16 am

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Saber Prime wrote:I do not belive in angels, devils, Heaven, or Hell.


wheres the fun in that!?
thats what makes life interesting
spot the quote
Tekka wrote:What she doesn't realize is that Springer actually loves Rodimus.
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