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Sledge wrote:How would that work? If I hire someone to make a cartoon advertising my toy line, I'm not going to be happy when they say "Ok, we'll market most of these toys, but we dont' agree with the concept of repaints. Therefore, Starscream's in, but Skywarp and Thundercracker are out. Red Alert is dropped, along with most of what you're planning to release in your second year of business. Ok?"Auto Bot wrote:At least, they could have been selective in choosing the toys to market.
Auto Bot wrote:It was still laziness for Hasbro just to pick up all of the Diaclone cars. They could have pick up selectively. Or redesign, or slightly modify some. They're not blind to see that the Prime cab and Magnus cab are exactly the same molds.
And what about Ironhide and Ratchet? These Microchange vans were supposed to have riders in them. That explains a chair, in place of a robot head. Hasbro didn't even do sh*t about this glaring blooper.
Counterpunch wrote:Auto Bot wrote:It was still laziness for Hasbro just to pick up all of the Diaclone cars. They could have pick up selectively. Or redesign, or slightly modify some. They're not blind to see that the Prime cab and Magnus cab are exactly the same molds.
And what about Ironhide and Ratchet? These Microchange vans were supposed to have riders in them. That explains a chair, in place of a robot head. Hasbro didn't even do sh*t about this glaring blooper.
I think this is the worst post I've ever read.
I'm not even joking.![]()
It shows an astounding lack of insight, comprehension, and ability to think past a knee jerk reaction.
I'm being mean here, but I don't think the situation calls for evenhandedness at all.
I can't really begin to pick apart where it goes wrong, so I will just put it this way:
"If "laziness" is the key to creating a multi-million dollar, multi-national franchise with one of the most iconic characters in all of Television and modern Fiction, that to this day, still draws a fan base over twenty years, reaching through two generations, and responsible for supporting one of the largest toy companies in the world...
Then we need some more God damn laziness."
Sledge wrote:How can I put this... ah, got it. No. Just because it's your opinion doesn't give you the right to say it. And it definitely doesn't give you the right to say it unchallenged.
Electron wrote:sledge your comments are like a fat chick raping a hot dog, its unpleasent to watch but in the end its gonna happen
Mr O wrote:I'm part Irish, part Scottish, very Welsh, mostly drunk, somewhat Transformers nerd and all bastard.
You have the right to post what you want, providing it doesn't violate the rules, and providing the site owner or his appointed moderators allow it. That's not the same as having a total right to express your opinion.Auto Bot wrote:That sounds funny.
I believe, i have the right to express my opinion. As everybody else here does too. Pls enlighten me on which Seibertron rules that says "Just because it's your opinion doesn't give you the right to say it." I may have missed some of the rules. I could be wrong, you know.
And i believe that anybody, and everybody do have the right to challenge whatever reasonable or dumb idea that i may have.
Pls correct me if i'm wrong on this one.
Moderators?
Sledge wrote:You have the right to post what you want, providing it doesn't violate the rules, and providing the site owner or his appointed moderators allow it. That's not the same as having a total right to express your opinion.Auto Bot wrote:That sounds funny.
I believe, i have the right to express my opinion. As everybody else here does too. Pls enlighten me on which Seibertron rules that says "Just because it's your opinion doesn't give you the right to say it." I may have missed some of the rules. I could be wrong, you know.
And i believe that anybody, and everybody do have the right to challenge whatever reasonable or dumb idea that i may have.
Pls correct me if i'm wrong on this one.
Moderators?
Now, clearly I am not preventing you expressing your opinion, as I'm not a moderator. I am telling you that your opinion makes no sense. Furthermore, I will not respect your opinion until you explain it. Just saying "because it's my opinion" is not good enough, and represents a mentality that has caused a great deal of suffering in the world.
Dough-bot wrote:Magus and Prime are the same cab robot, and cursr DW for ever getting him out of it but I'm glad that Magnus is getting some attention, Okay the Lazy repaints are getting too much to afford
but to answer the Original question posted
they are from the diaclone line , same cab different trailers
Thanatos Prime wrote:It's just better business, not laziness. If they didn't repaint these exspensive molds (which they all are), transformers would have died out in a about a year. The transformer would never have made it to a movie because it is way too exspensive for them to use a new mold for every character. Can you imagine paying $25.00 for a deluxe?? And probably over $100 for a leader. They'd never sell.
videriant wrote:Dough-bot wrote:Magus and Prime are the same cab robot, and cursr DW for ever getting him out of it but I'm glad that Magnus is getting some attention, Okay the Lazy repaints are getting too much to afford
but to answer the Original question posted
they are from the diaclone line , same cab different trailers
Speaking of which, does anybody know what year DW stripped UM? If Hasbro was doing repaints of OP into UM before that then you really can't blame DW for going with the flow can you? (although they probably ARE to blame)Thanatos Prime wrote:It's just better business, not laziness. If they didn't repaint these exspensive molds (which they all are), transformers would have died out in a about a year. The transformer would never have made it to a movie because it is way too exspensive for them to use a new mold for every character. Can you imagine paying $25.00 for a deluxe?? And probably over $100 for a leader. They'd never sell.
Hehehehe, why imagine when you can just ask our friends across the pond.
microclone wrote:
ps, ratchet/ironhide were also diaclone toys (not microman)and like all the TF from diaclone they all had little seats for the diaclone pilots
Predaprince wrote:I am very thankful to have posters like sto_vo_kor_2000 who is so energetic about improving others' understanding and enjoyment of the TF universe
Stormrider wrote:You often add interesting insights to conversations that makes the fledglings think and challenges even the sharpest minds
T-Macksimus wrote:I consider you and editor to be amongst the most "scholarly" in terms of your knowledge, demeanor and general approach
videriant wrote:Dough-bot wrote:Magus and Prime are the same cab robot, and cursr DW for ever getting him out of it but I'm glad that Magnus is getting some attention, Okay the Lazy repaints are getting too much to afford
but to answer the Original question posted
they are from the diaclone line , same cab different trailers
Speaking of which, does anybody know what year DW stripped UM? If Hasbro was doing repaints of OP into UM before that then you really can't blame DW for going with the flow can you? (although they probably ARE to blame)Thanatos Prime wrote:It's just better business, not laziness. If they didn't repaint these exspensive molds (which they all are), transformers would have died out in a about a year. The transformer would never have made it to a movie because it is way too exspensive for them to use a new mold for every character. Can you imagine paying $25.00 for a deluxe?? And probably over $100 for a leader. They'd never sell.
Hehehehe, why imagine when you can just ask our friends across the pond.
Electron wrote:sledge your comments are like a fat chick raping a hot dog, its unpleasent to watch but in the end its gonna happen
Mr O wrote:I'm part Irish, part Scottish, very Welsh, mostly drunk, somewhat Transformers nerd and all bastard.
Leonardo wrote:Kanyon wrote:Justicity wrote:Its called... a repaint...
It's a quick & easy way for Hasbro/Takara to make more money. You see it ALOT! Ever wondered why Cliffjumper & Bumblebee almost always look exactly the same? You notice that Movie Evac is the same mold as Movie Blackout? Have you yet understood that toy companies to this for the money, not to bring us the wonderful gift of transforming robots?
Lesson for today is now concluded.
You speak the truth.
Only time we had a different U.M was in the Robots in Disguise line. But thats it. Can't say which U.M i like over Prime since they both have the same mold and both colors go together so meh. Just don't like RiD Magnus, and thats it.
Also note that the Titanium line gave us both an Ultra Magnus who was a white Prime repaint (War Within) and a different Ultra Magnus who was not a Prime repaint (G1).
Sledge wrote:And we have free health care.![]()
Now, if they'd just clean the bloody hospitals properly so we weren't all afraid to use them...
Electron wrote:sledge your comments are like a fat chick raping a hot dog, its unpleasent to watch but in the end its gonna happen
Mr O wrote:I'm part Irish, part Scottish, very Welsh, mostly drunk, somewhat Transformers nerd and all bastard.
Gutter Bunny wrote:as stated earlier, technically the diaclone line is responsible for all the repaints. And looking at it from that point of view...the ultra magnus toy came first, therefore it wasn't DW that stripped him.
I'm sure hasbro didn't come up with the ultra magnus character and then say..."oh this powered convoy is close enough." No, it was more like
"hmmm we have this toy that looks exactly like the optimus prime character...only he has an armor mode. we should use that." "what should we call him?" "super optimus prime?" "no, no, lets call him ultra magnus"
long story short...if it wasnt for convoy(prime) being repainted into powered convoy(ultra magnus) then there would be no Ultra Magnus.
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