LordGrift wrote:Well, It wasn't shown it ROTF that the matrix was destroyed when Sam pushed it inside Optimus chest. I think it was placed in front of his spark
Decepticon_Vandal wrote:That would be the assumption. What I would have like to know is whether Sentinel was truly dead or in stasis, in the latter situation how could the Fallen have returned if there was another Prime still ticking on the moon, but I'm giving too much credit to the story by analyzing this much into it.
I find it funny that the Matrix was used mostly as a defibrillator than some artifact of awesome power.
Decepticon_Vandal wrote:They made it seem like the Fallen was imprisoned until the last Prime was dead, like some mystical bondage or something like that. If Sentinel wasn't dead then there was still one last Prime, therefor the Fallen could not break his bonds or whatever.
Decepticon_Vandal wrote:That would be the assumption. What I would have like to know is whether Sentinel was truly dead or in stasis, in the latter situation how could the Fallen have returned if there was another Prime still ticking on the moon, but I'm giving too much credit to the story by analyzing this much into it.
I find it funny that the Matrix was used mostly as a defibrillator than some artifact of awesome power.
Wing Saber II wrote:Decepticon_Vandal wrote:That would be the assumption. What I would have like to know is whether Sentinel was truly dead or in stasis, in the latter situation how could the Fallen have returned if there was another Prime still ticking on the moon, but I'm giving too much credit to the story by analyzing this much into it.
I find it funny that the Matrix was used mostly as a defibrillator than some artifact of awesome power.
The way I see it, The Fallen knew about the deal with Sentinel, and therefor saw Sentinel as being no threat to him.
Silverwing wrote:Also, I feel compelled to give the obligatory:
One for each year of the Movieverse's decade strong tenure. Here's to a few more explosive years!
Jakubus Prime wrote:Okay well this is what I wanna know how did megatron know that sentinal was on the moon and all these deals were made after he crashed into earth WAY before 1963, adn was "thawed" in 2006 or 7 and how did they know to make deals with the humans to shut them up about what was on the moon, you mean to tell me star scream was the only one out of the loop for that? I thought megatron was just after the all spark? he was after both?
Autobot032 wrote:Decepticon_Vandal wrote:They made it seem like the Fallen was imprisoned until the last Prime was dead, like some mystical bondage or something like that. If Sentinel wasn't dead then there was still one last Prime, therefor the Fallen could not break his bonds or whatever.
No mystical bondage. A Prime was the only one strong enough to stop him. Optimus was the only one able to defeat him. The Fallen had little strength due to millennia of Energon starvation, plus he was beaten severely in his final battle with his brothers. After the beatdown and no sustenance, he was pretty much done for if another Prime got his hands on him. The rest of the Autobots and Decepticons had no power over him, however.
Even with Sentinel being alive, he was in stasis and therefore no threat.
No mystical bondage required.
RhA wrote:Autobot032 wrote:Decepticon_Vandal wrote:They made it seem like the Fallen was imprisoned until the last Prime was dead, like some mystical bondage or something like that. If Sentinel wasn't dead then there was still one last Prime, therefor the Fallen could not break his bonds or whatever.
No mystical bondage. A Prime was the only one strong enough to stop him. Optimus was the only one able to defeat him. The Fallen had little strength due to millennia of Energon starvation, plus he was beaten severely in his final battle with his brothers. After the beatdown and no sustenance, he was pretty much done for if another Prime got his hands on him. The rest of the Autobots and Decepticons had no power over him, however.
Even with Sentinel being alive, he was in stasis and therefore no threat.
No mystical bondage required.
Suppose Devastator could beat him? If it's a strength thing alone.
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