Overcracker wrote:In a similar vein, Nightbird’s BMW mode is pretty sleek looking. Her robot mode, looks a but skeletal though, and those feet…
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84everfan wrote:SpaceEagle wrote:transformers_va wrote:I didn't ask you... you just injected your opinion, because you think you know more than others. Unfortunately, given your posts throughout the years, your opinions hold no value with me... you tend to favour weak designs.william-james88 wrote:Asking me what I think of kiddie toys won't get us anywhere since I am not the target audience.
I'm going out on a limb and think no one asked for your opinions on the offerings for youngsters, either. Funny how that works.
Considering designs didn't look this stupid and uncool when I was a kid, your argument doesn't work. You can't just use "it's for kids" as an excuse when "kids" have been the target audience for going on 40 years. Especially when this movie is targeted at an adult audience. Was SONIC pg-13? No.
SpaceEagle wrote:Overcracker wrote:In a similar vein, Nightbird’s BMW mode is pretty sleek looking. Her robot mode, looks a but skeletal though, and those feet…
It's supposed to be a Nissan Skyline, not a Bimmer, although it seems the toy has to be slightly distinct to avoid licensing much like Wheeljack's VW Bus mode here!
Overcracker wrote:SpaceEagle wrote:Overcracker wrote:In a similar vein, Nightbird’s BMW mode is pretty sleek looking. Her robot mode, looks a but skeletal though, and those feet…
It's supposed to be a Nissan Skyline, not a Bimmer, although it seems the toy has to be slightly distinct to avoid licensing much like Wheeljack's VW Bus mode here!
Don’t recall any 90’s Skyline’s having a split grill. That looks closer to a BMW than a Skyline.
Also, the scoop is in the wrong place if we are going by the Movie car:
SpaceEagle wrote:Overcracker wrote:SpaceEagle wrote:Overcracker wrote:In a similar vein, Nightbird’s BMW mode is pretty sleek looking. Her robot mode, looks a but skeletal though, and those feet…
It's supposed to be a Nissan Skyline, not a Bimmer, although it seems the toy has to be slightly distinct to avoid licensing much like Wheeljack's VW Bus mode here!
Don’t recall any 90’s Skyline’s having a split grill. That looks closer to a BMW than a Skyline.
Also, the scoop is in the wrong place if we are going by the Movie car:
Right right, that's why I mentioned the toy's trying to be legally distinct. Much like how Sideways's Audi mode looks nothing like a regular R8 but just a legally distinct sports coupe that we still consider a faux R8. Besides, Nightbird's toy here still has the Skyline's taillights, seems like the front had to be messed with a bit.
Overcracker wrote:True, but outside of VW and its subsidiaries, did not think there was an issue licensing cars. Did Nissan not allow their cars to be used?
Audi is owned by the VW group as is Porsche, but I{m definitely hoping they don't pull a Sideways with Mirage.
SpaceEagle wrote:84everfan wrote:SpaceEagle wrote:transformers_va wrote:I didn't ask you... you just injected your opinion, because you think you know more than others. Unfortunately, given your posts throughout the years, your opinions hold no value with me... you tend to favour weak designs.william-james88 wrote:Asking me what I think of kiddie toys won't get us anywhere since I am not the target audience.
I'm going out on a limb and think no one asked for your opinions on the offerings for youngsters, either. Funny how that works.
Considering designs didn't look this stupid and uncool when I was a kid, your argument doesn't work. You can't just use "it's for kids" as an excuse when "kids" have been the target audience for going on 40 years. Especially when this movie is targeted at an adult audience. Was SONIC pg-13? No.
Personally I don't understand why people are comparing cheap, basic toys to something like the legendary 80's Optimus Prime toy? This is NOT that level, 80's OP was a high ticket item. It was more expensive than other toys available. Sure this and the modern kiddie offerings have little different in the way of engineering, but these kiddie toys are much more meant to be like something that the Jumpstarters/Battlechangers/Duocons/etc. offered us. Cheap, simple, and something gimmicky little novelties to make a very young kid smile.
Silverwing wrote:Also, I feel compelled to give the obligatory:
One for each year of the Movieverse's decade strong tenure. Here's to a few more explosive years!
Oh, but, Takara already did!Overcracker wrote:I{m definitely hoping they don't pull a Sideways with Mirage.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Oh, but, Takara already did!Overcracker wrote:I{m definitely hoping they don't pull a Sideways with Mirage.
Sabrblade wrote:Just remember, folks. VW Bus Wheeljack here is gonna look like this in about two decades:
transformers_va wrote:Really? That's how public forums work? Wow! smhEmerje wrote:Dude, that's not how public forums work. Anything you post is fair game for others to reply to, you don't get to choose.
Emerje
Overcracker wrote:SpaceEagle wrote:Overcracker wrote:In a similar vein, Nightbird’s BMW mode is pretty sleek looking. Her robot mode, looks a but skeletal though, and those feet…
It's supposed to be a Nissan Skyline, not a Bimmer, although it seems the toy has to be slightly distinct to avoid licensing much like Wheeljack's VW Bus mode here!
Don’t recall any 90’s Skyline’s having a split grill. That looks closer to a BMW than a Skyline.
Also, the scoop is in the wrong place if we are going by the Movie car:
SpaceEagle wrote:Overcracker wrote:True, but outside of VW and its subsidiaries, did not think there was an issue licensing cars. Did Nissan not allow their cars to be used?
Audi is owned by the VW group as is Porsche, but I{m definitely hoping they don't pull a Sideways with Mirage.
I'm honestly just as confused about the inability to get Nissan licensing, though I guess there hasn't been that many attempts to get their licensing outside of Japan? I know Alternity and TF GT exists but those weren't released outside of Japan's market if I remember correctly.
Cyber Bishop wrote:Different head on that bus and it is fantastic, calling it wheeljack in it's current look with the glasses is just plain stupid. Bay is a jackass (since he has allegedly had his hands in the design) , They need fresh minds designing them.
william-james88 wrote:Overcracker wrote:SpaceEagle wrote:Overcracker wrote:In a similar vein, Nightbird’s BMW mode is pretty sleek looking. Her robot mode, looks a but skeletal though, and those feet…
It's supposed to be a Nissan Skyline, not a Bimmer, although it seems the toy has to be slightly distinct to avoid licensing much like Wheeljack's VW Bus mode here!
Don’t recall any 90’s Skyline’s having a split grill. That looks closer to a BMW than a Skyline.
Also, the scoop is in the wrong place if we are going by the Movie car:
The deco is also wrong, they added way more brown on the hood area.SpaceEagle wrote:Overcracker wrote:True, but outside of VW and its subsidiaries, did not think there was an issue licensing cars. Did Nissan not allow their cars to be used?
Audi is owned by the VW group as is Porsche, but I{m definitely hoping they don't pull a Sideways with Mirage.
I'm honestly just as confused about the inability to get Nissan licensing, though I guess there hasn't been that many attempts to get their licensing outside of Japan? I know Alternity and TF GT exists but those weren't released outside of Japan's market if I remember correctly.
When it comes to licensing, I'd wait till we get the Studio Series figures before looking too much into this. There's no rhyme or reason to licensing as it differs per company (even owned within the same conglomerate) and per country. It could be that, as with previous movie toylines, not all figures for a particular character gets a licenced alt mode. This nightbird and wheeljack may not be licenced but their SS counterparts could be.
-Kanrabat- wrote:TF-fan kev777 wrote:First-Aid wrote:Okay, did anyone else notice that we all get a wonderful shot of Starscreams crotch anytime he sits in that throne? That's unnerving. Couldn't they have put n extra flap in there? It's....weird.
Its kind of like Basic Instinct, but not in a good way...
Goddammit, now I can't unsee it.
This Nightbird is meant to be the Movieverse version of the original Nightbird:Dr. Caelus wrote:So I'm guessing Nightbird is going to be a triple-changer.
- Beaky helmet.
- Wingy kibble on hips.
- Claw weapon.
- Animal name.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Dr. Caelus wrote:So I'm guessing Nightbird is going to be a triple-changer.
- Beaky helmet.
- Wingy kibble on hips.
- Claw weapon.
- Animal name.
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