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EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:The ROTB figures listed on Gamefly now show that they can be preordered:

https://www.gamefly.com/search?q=Transformers%20mv7

This whole thing seems off.

Well I guess we should be happy Hasbro isn't as draconian about "leaks" as Mattel is (and these aren't even leaks!).



Short version: A Jurassic Park toy YouTuber and an Instagrammer both had their channel/page removed without warning by Mattel for showing off toys from the latest JP movie (the YT channel was instantly given 3 strikes by them). One legally bought toys from an online store that released them early while the other showed off stock photos that were already made public and discussed them. The former Instagrammer also got one strike on their YT channel. Both spent years supporting Mattel's JP toy line and driving customers to the line only for Mattel to do something like this in retaliation for something the content creators couldn't have possibly imagined was wrong (and really isn't) rather than going off the stores selling the figures early and originally posting the stock photos.

Just imagine what it would be like if Hasbro did the same thing. With all the leaked information from insiders and photos of figures stolen from factories out there around the internet it seems like it wouldn't take much for Hasbro to completely decimate a large chunk of the fandom on the net if they chose to. I guess we can be thankful that Hasbro is a little more fan aware and forgiving or else things could look very different.

I posted this here because RotB toys are coming soon complete with an April release that seems pretty solid as a street date. Pictures will be showing up pretty soon, but I doubt Hasbro will make any kind of big deal out of them showing up early since the movie is still well over a year away so I doubt they're too concerned with the toys spoiling anything at this point.

Emerje

There's those corporations that know the power of free internet advertisements by fans... And there's the ones who are old fashioned and just don't know that a reputation can be instantly destroyed with some thoughtless move resulting in a bad PR shitstorm.

Glad Hasbro is the former rather than the latter.

Emerje wrote:Well I guess we should be happy Hasbro isn't as draconian about "leaks" as Mattel is (and these aren't even leaks!).



Short version: A Jurassic Park toy YouTuber and an Instagrammer both had their channel/page removed without warning by Mattel for showing off toys from the latest JP movie (the YT channel was instantly given 3 strikes by them). One legally bought toys from an online store that released them early while the other showed off stock photos that were already made public and discussed them. The former Instagrammer also got one strike on their YT channel. Both spent years supporting Mattel's JP toy line and driving customers to the line only for Mattel to do something like this in retaliation for something the content creators couldn't have possibly imagined was wrong (and really isn't) rather than going off the stores selling the figures early and originally posting the stock photos.

Just imagine what it would be like if Hasbro did the same thing. With all the leaked information from insiders and photos of figures stolen from factories out there around the internet it seems like it wouldn't take much for Hasbro to completely decimate a large chunk of the fandom on the net if they chose to. I guess we can be thankful that Hasbro is a little more fan aware and forgiving or else things could look very different.

I posted this here because RotB toys are coming soon complete with an April release that seems pretty solid as a street date. Pictures will be showing up pretty soon, but I doubt Hasbro will make any kind of big deal out of them showing up early since the movie is still well over a year away so I doubt they're too concerned with the toys spoiling anything at this point.

Emerje

Hasbro and Mattel were the ones who reported YouTube to the FCC and started the whole COPA debacle a couple of years ago. So yeah, Hasbro isn't wonderful, probably just lazy.

While we still do not have any images, we have more evidence of the Rise of the Beast toys coming our way soon. We now have a listing for Transformers Movie 7 Beast Battle Master RHINOX. This is the cheapest and smallest class in the line and we still don't really know what it looks like nor exactly what it entails. Legion class would be fun, but we are still not sure. Some fans already bought it just to see what they would get and the item is said to be arriving April 15th.

Brand Transformers
Item Dimensions LxWxH 1.5 x 4.25 x 6.75 inches
Age Range (Description) 6 YEARS+
Model Name MV7 BA BEAST BATTLE MASTER RHINOX
Material Plastic

Here is the link to the listing: https://www.amazon.com/dp/b09mjpgqz6?ta ... formers-20

I've seen screen grabs from the Amazon listing that had it available for PO, did anyone get an order in?

I wonder if the size difference between the Maximals and Autobots will be similar to that of the Beast Wars show.

TOO MUCH ENERGON! wrote:I wonder if the size difference between the Maximals and Autobots will be similar to that of the Beast Wars show.

I highly doubt it.
The smol BW characters are only in the OG BW universe. Every times the Beasts and normal TF interacted with each others in WFC, comics, and so on, they were all the same size. Meaning giant freaking animals. So I'm pretty sure the live movie will be no different.

TOO MUCH ENERGON! wrote:I wonder if the size difference between the Maximals and Autobots will be similar to that of the Beast Wars show.

Maybe in the toy line that's why the beasts are weaponizer style figures? Imagine if the studio series toys are the same size as the Arcee sisters, they could do all the characters in two releases. The more I think about it, the more I like the idea.

TOO MUCH ENERGON! wrote:I wonder if the size difference between the Maximals and Autobots will be similar to that of the Beast Wars show.

It wont be, these will be giant bots.

Alright, so this is in response to some confusion that we got with Hasbro's announcement earlier today for a new Optimus Prime toy. Now that the toy is out for us to see, people who claim to be in the know (we will keep the sources private unless they express otherwise) have said that this toy is actually part of the Rise of the Beasts toyline. Instead of a Rise of the Beasts toyline coming out in April, both waves will be out on shelves later this year in Cyberverse packaging. That would mean that Hasbro was able to stir the ship while the product was not at packaging stage yet. This would also let the retailers get the product they ordered and had prepped for in their planning of both their shelf space and finances, though at a later date than anticipated. It is also telling that we see the toy in the ad and not the packaging. Hasbro is being quick on their toes on this one.

If we are to believe all this, which is the most logical explanation for this toy, then we can start the fun speculation we were all giddy for with us getting hints at designs in the film from the toys for the kid centric line.

This Optimus Prime, for instance, becomes our first look at what Prime will look like in robot mode. It basically confirms that they are keeping the same model that we saw in the Bumblebee movie (further confirming that this is a sequel to that film, if anyone still doubted that). The alt mode is inaccurate to what we have seen on set, but then again, it does resemble an offroad racing truck and Bumblebee is getting an offroad upgrade in the film. So this is either a hint of what we could see in the film, or (more probably) of what could have been planned for the film at one point. We saw that many times in the past like in Age of Extinction with all the product for a dropped Silver Knight Optimus component to the film and Slash, a Dinobot that was also dropped from the film. It could also simply by a toyline only offroad theme to go with Bumblebee giving kids and parents something new and thematic while still familiar.

Also, this toy would/could be the Smash Changers Optimus Prime from the Rise of the Beasts line that we reported on a month and a half ago.

Smash Changers
Optimus Prime (5010993958474)

This is a smart choice to not intimidate retailers.

TulioDude wrote:This is a smart choice to not intimidate retailers.

And it also avoids marketting a film that isn't out.

That makes sense, but weren't retailers phasing out there Cyberverse spacing for EarthSpark then? Where do these go? Or are retailers going to make room for these instead of the Movie line, since that's no longer happening? In other words Cyberverse will take up the space meant for the movie line until the movie is released?

I'm actually impressed. This looks much better than that unfinished mess we got in the Bee movie. Hopefully this design will transfer well to both the toys and the screen.

Overcracker wrote:In other words Cyberverse will take up the space meant for the movie line?

Yes, that's exactly what will happen. The movie being released or not doesn't really matter, what matters is the retailers get what they planned for and no one has to redo their plans (neither hasbro nor the retailers)

william-james88 wrote:

TulioDude wrote:This is a smart choice to not intimidate retailers.

And it also avoids marketting a film that isn't out.

I guess? I feel using these toys for a new filler line unrelated to the movie or any media (like Classics back in 2006) would have been less confusing, but reusing an established line might save some money on packaging and advertisement; after all, the logo and packaging styles are already designed.

MaximalNui wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

TulioDude wrote:This is a smart choice to not intimidate retailers.

And it also avoids marketting a film that isn't out.

I guess? I feel using these toys for a new filler line unrelated to the movie or any media (like Classics back in 2006) would have been less confusing, but reusing an established line might save some money on packaging and advertisement; after all, the logo and packaging styles are already designed.

Yeah they are definitely trying to reorient this massive line in the most cost effective way. Not only is that line established in terms of design assets, but also in terms of expectations. Cyberverse is the young kids toyline, so that's what will be used for these toys which are made for your kids.

Kinda genius, using Cyberverse to get us to the movie. i like that design too, it is interesting

Remember the Bumblebee movie line? It was entirely aimed at kids with lot of gimmicks. Well the Rise of the Beasts line will mostly be the same. We saw the 3 step Optimus a month back and now we see Optimus Prime in a different scale along with Optimus Primal and a Tigatron accessory which serves as a weaponiser.

While the toys may not excite fans, what is exciting is that this is our very first look at Optimus Primal from Rise of the Beasts. Of course, it is likely that the final movie model will look different BUT this does give us an indication that they are being closer to the original designs than the Bayverse bots were in the first movie. It also gives us an idea of scale, meaning that Prime and Primal would be around the same size, as has been the standard scale of late. You'll also notice that this Optimus Prime toy also turns into the same off road truck mode as the previous toy. These should be released through the Cyberverse line this year. The Images come from a Chefatron review.

He is looking nice!

DAy 805 of waiting for Transformers Armada Masterpiece news.

That Primal looks great even if it is super simple. Guess I'll be shelling out for Movie Maximals now.

Even this Primal has an interesting transformation to him. I really like him. Might just pick him up while we wait for thew actual movie line.

Tigatron relegated to a filleted crossbow... the indignity.



Anybody getting as feeling that the Legacy Bulkhead repaint is going to just be movie Optimus Prime? The similarities are uncanny.

Gotta say…
I’m really diggin’ Garry Primal’s movie look. My anticipation for this movie just jumped by like over 9,000%.

Not bad. Looking forward to a larger version. And yeah that Optimus Prime screams Bulkhead repaint.

Awsome, but I miss legion class