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Chaoslock wrote:

Diem wrote:Okay, what?

Megatron turns into a hauntingly accurate Walther replica. Starscream, a highly detailed and heavily researched jet. Prime, a crafted copy of a real truck cab. Grimlock, a...robot dinosaur? What?

You have problems with robot dinosaurs? Trypticon, eat him!

I thought about this before, last time I heard the rumours and to be honest, I can't see a robot dino fitting into the world of 10,000+ yen back-boxed hobby-shop-sold toys. Grimlock was never even a popular character here. I'm the last person to say that Transformers are or should be "mature" or "realistic" but I think that at least the Masterpiece line has standards higher than, say, Henkei or Encore.

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I was under the impression that the Masterpiece line was intended to be the most accurate and detailed toys of the G1 Transformers, not necessarily based on real Alt. modes, just happens to turn out that way. Lets say there is a Masterpiece Rodimus down the road, he didn't have a real-life alt. mode but I'm willing to bet it would be a badass looking car.

I hope they do all 5 Dinobots
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DavidT wrote:.
I hope they do all 5 Dinobots
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They're going to have a hard enough time figuring out what to repaint Grimlock into as it is. You want them to make all 5? I can only imagine what kinds of repaints we'll get from that. I usually buy repaints too, but it's kinda hard to when it comes to MP's

DavidT wrote:.
I was under the impression that the Masterpiece line was intended to be the most accurate and detailed toys of the G1 Transformers, not necessarily based on real Alt. modes, just happens to turn out that way. Lets say there is a Masterpiece Rodimus down the road, he didn't have a real-life alt. mode but I'm willing to bet it would be a badass looking car.

I hope they do all 5 Dinobots
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Well that's part of the problem; Megs, Prime and Screamer all had real life analogues to draw more accuracy and details from. But unless you take Dreamworks or IDW into account then the most accurate representations of G1 Grimmy are the toy or the Dery model, neither of which has much to work with.

Besides, Grimlock really wasn't popular here and Takara would be pretty much banking on lots of US sales. Far safer for them to make, say, Prowl.

robofreak wrote:

DavidT wrote:.
I hope they do all 5 Dinobots
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They're going to have a hard enough time figuring out what to repaint Grimlock into as it is. You want them to make all 5? I can only imagine what kinds of repaints we'll get from that. I usually buy repaints too, but it's kinda hard to when it comes to MP's

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yeah.. I hear ya....

but I doubt there will be any repaints since they are only did one Megatron. He didn't have a repaint like the others.


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I'd have to look at the stats again...but if memory serves Grimlock is usually in the top four Autobots in most polls. I also feel inclined to point out that Godzilla franchise has been selling in japan for over half a century...aparently They're pretty big on oversized dinos

...and Megatron transforms into a laughably oversized handgun...not what I'd call stirring myself.

In any case....rumor. Its all rumor until we see some pictures.

Does anybody thought of the possibility of Grimlock appearing in the movie sequel?

Could be a trigger for Takara to choose Grimlock as the next MP subject.

Auto Bot wrote:Does anybody thought of the possibility of Grimlock appearing in the movie sequel?

Could be a trigger for Takara to choose Grimlock as the next MP subject.

Grimlock? Possibly. As a dinosaur? Nooooooo.

Diem wrote:

Auto Bot wrote:Does anybody thought of the possibility of Grimlock appearing in the movie sequel?

Could be a trigger for Takara to choose Grimlock as the next MP subject.

Grimlock? Possibly. As a dinosaur? Nooooooo.

You think Grimlock will be used for other mode?

Auto Bot wrote:

Diem wrote:

Auto Bot wrote:Does anybody thought of the possibility of Grimlock appearing in the movie sequel?

Could be a trigger for Takara to choose Grimlock as the next MP subject.

Grimlock? Possibly. As a dinosaur? Nooooooo.

You think Grimlock will be used for other mode?

Considering all the fuss about size-changing, realism and using licensed product by the makers of the first film then, yeah. Megatron has immunity it seems, everyone else is stuck with real Earth modes...

...hmm...

...could Grimlock be the X-box bot?

Sounds like a nice rumor about Grimmy. I'll believe when I see it though.

robofreak wrote:

DavidT wrote:.
I hope they do all 5 Dinobots
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They're going to have a hard enough time figuring out what to repaint Grimlock into as it is. You want them to make all 5? I can only imagine what kinds of repaints we'll get from that. I usually buy repaints too, but it's kinda hard to when it comes to MP's

They won't repaint Grimlock because his mould didn't share another personality.

Screamer and prime were obvious choices. Megatron won't get one, unless e-hobby does a diaclone version. But they won't, because it would be a huge waste of money.

Down_Shift wrote:

robofreak wrote:

DavidT wrote:.
I hope they do all 5 Dinobots
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They're going to have a hard enough time figuring out what to repaint Grimlock into as it is. You want them to make all 5? I can only imagine what kinds of repaints we'll get from that. I usually buy repaints too, but it's kinda hard to when it comes to MP's

They won't repaint Grimlock because his mould didn't share another personality.

Screamer and prime were obvious choices. Megatron won't get one, unless e-hobby does a diaclone version. But they won't, because it would be a huge waste of money.

Blue G2 version.

Bet it.

It will make Grimlock even more lovable and valuable if he's got no repaints.

Counterpunch wrote:
Blue G2 version.

Bet it.

No love for the teal?

Well, Takara can start with a bizarre color choice as by Starscream, than add a "Anime colors" version, then there are the two G2 colors (the turqoise could be the Lucky Draw version?) , Trypticon, Overkill, Dinobot, and a Godzilla paint-scheme they can add.

Counterpunch wrote:Blue G2 version.

Bet it.

Pffft, no way man. Unless they make the blue release the first one and then make fans buy a second show accurate one

**cough** STARSCREAM **cough**

Down_Shift wrote:

Counterpunch wrote:Blue G2 version.

Bet it.

Pffft, no way man. Unless they make the blue release the first one and then make fans buy a second show accurate one

**cough** STARSCREAM **cough**

perhaps we shouldn't give them any ideas...

Gutter Bunny wrote:

Down_Shift wrote:

Counterpunch wrote:Blue G2 version.

Bet it.

Pffft, no way man. Unless they make the blue release the first one and then make fans buy a second show accurate one

**cough** STARSCREAM **cough**

perhaps we shouldn't give them any ideas...

Correct. This has been the Hasbro-Takara strategy for a time now. We should not encourage them to continue this milking-cow scheme.

I'm a Dinosaur fan as well as a TF fan, so i am screwed. I WILL HAVE TO GET THIS.

My poor credit card.

DavidT wrote:.
I was under the impression that the Masterpiece line was intended to be the most accurate and detailed toys of the G1 Transformers, not necessarily based on real Alt. modes
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Since wen is the MP Seeker mold the most G1 accurate mold of those characters?

I don't think the MP line knows what it's supposed to be. Prime was clearly intended as a cartoon-accurate figure. The seeker mold is a very accurate F-15 that transforms into something a bit like a seeker robot mode. Megatron... beats me. His alt mode is too big and his robot mode is kinda getting there, but not really cartoon accurate.

This is why i'm never a fan of MP.

Although Skywarp is beautiful. Both the plane mould and colors. I can forgive a little shortcomings on the robot mode.

Man, you guys are ridiculous.

The MP line is the BEST thing to happen to Transformers, since they first debuted.

They are all the most-detailed, best-designed, and most-accurate TRANSFORMING versions of the G1 characters to ever hit mass market.

I think they're amazing. I can't wait for MP Grimlock, if it's true.

Each one has had it's own focus in its design, to make it the best overall version of itself to date.

Prime was focused on to make it the best animated form in robot mode, and while people bitched about the vehicle mode, I still swear up and down it's pretty damned good for a truck that turns into THAT awesome of a cartoon-accurate robot mode. Sure, it's not accurate to a Freightliner, but it's easily recognizable as a truck. Who leaves MP Prime in truck-mode long anyways? I sure as hell don't.

Starscream, while the first color choice WAS bad, was designed to be a more accurate jet, which I have no problem with. Other than his size (I wish he was bigger) and original color (The Hasbro cartoon-accurate color was much better, although I think the Takara version was painted with better detail), I think the mold is pretty good. I still prefer the original design without the hip "scabbards" hanging off, but it's still better than any Starscream/Seeker mold. EVER. It also makes sense, as they can squeeze at LEAST 2 repaints out of it, if not a retool as the Coneheads. And, if I'm not mistaken, I think the Starscream MP was supposed to originally be a jet version scaled to the Alternators, but got canned and tucked into the MP line instead? I could be wrong, so many goofy rumours on these boards.

Megatron is 100% pure awesome. I think they wanted to make the original 80's toy "right", but transform so that he looked a lot closer to his cartoon version. I love him, despite his shortcomings. Sure, his legs are fragile and a bit thin, and the cannon is gigantic, and his head may not be "ideal" to each and every fanboy's dream, and "OH NO", he's missing the stock (which JustiToys recreated and fixed the standing/leg weight issue too, and it works fine for me to buy that since Hasbro/Takara dropped the ball). So, not 100% cartoon accurate. Not 100% realistic — the gun's too big, so what... We would have heard more bitching if he didn't fit in scale with Prime, admit it.

I think they're still defining what this line is, and I have no problem with that. Each release seems to focus on a different goal, yet they all end up pretty freaking awesome. I don't think we can clarify a pattern yet, although...

I'm pretty sure Grimlock will fall closer to MP Megatron's/Prime's design direction than Starscream. Let's face it, the original T-Rex is NOT accurate to how a real T-Rex stands/is built/etc. I don't want a realistic T-Rex robot, like say from Jurassic Park. I want Grimlock, in all his 80s badass bulkiness, dragging tail and all. Take the original toy, and make it "better", is what I expect out of them. And make it cartoon-accurate as much as possible. Whether it's closer to the G1 toy or cartoon in it's focus, I expect to be amazed by whatever they throw at us.

You realise that, by calling me ridiculous, I must now call your face ridiculous and... this can only end one way.