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JazZeke wrote:SW's SilverHammer wrote:Va'al wrote:As much as I'd complain or argue over aspects of the execution, falling into gender and ethnic stereotypes, I do agree with whoever said that it's a good sign that a female character emerged from the poll, and that this was carried through by Hasbro.
It shows that, at least for me, the fandom is slowly progressing beyond the stagnant point of 'these are the characters, don't touch them'. And that includes the multitude of kids that probably voted in the poll too, who don't have as many prejudices as some of the older fans!
So yes, good, overall.
^ All of this
The fandom, sure. (Actually, I thought Transformers has always been one of the more female-friendly fandoms.) But then Hasbro had to go and make her a geisha.
What about Ripclaw and Ser-Ket?Noideaforaname wrote:Would be nice to get an un-supermodely female TF. We've got all manner or weird dude robots (Lugnut, Bludgeon, Prime Soundwave, Sky Lynx, the RotF Constructicons, BM Vehicons, etc.), yet apart from Strika all the gals have the same body type.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:What about Ripclaw and Ser-Ket?Noideaforaname wrote:Would be nice to get an un-supermodely female TF. We've got all manner or weird dude robots (Lugnut, Bludgeon, Prime Soundwave, Sky Lynx, the RotF Constructicons, BM Vehicons, etc.), yet apart from Strika all the gals have the same body type.
Sabrblade wrote:What about Ripclaw and Ser-Ket?Noideaforaname wrote:Would be nice to get an un-supermodely female TF. We've got all manner or weird dude robots (Lugnut, Bludgeon, Prime Soundwave, Sky Lynx, the RotF Constructicons, BM Vehicons, etc.), yet apart from Strika all the gals have the same body type.
Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:Sabrblade wrote:What about Ripclaw and Ser-Ket?
What about the ROTF Arcee triplets?
Silverwing wrote:Also, I feel compelled to give the obligatory:![]()
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One for each year of the Movieverse's decade strong tenure. Here's to a few more explosive years!
Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:Oh look, a quick, blade-wielding female character. That hasn't been done too much at all. At least she's done up like a Japanese escort in case any businessmen show up at Cybertron so she laugh at all their jokes and do an elaborate dance for them after dinner. MUCH better than the heavily armored female Decepticon brawler character I voted for.
At least I can cover up the Autobot symbol with a Decepticon one and cover up the face with silver paint.
Va'al wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:_Anshin_ wrote:GuyIncognito wrote:A new female bot: good.
Hasbro still thinking that female bots need breasts: bad.
Actually I have been reading about the "need for breasts" on the bots/toys. Without them they would not be distinguishable from the "male" bots. The big fear is that cross/transgender identification with toys at a young age. By sexualizing (females have breasts) parents don't have to explain this and there won't be a picket from certain groups against the toy manufacture for the release of a cross/transgender toy.
So to avoid litigations / psychological identification and confusion / etc. it is a good thing.
*quickly closes the container of Sharkticon bait* No need for such debate, the question of whether we actually need female robots is bad enough
Why not? It's a discussion forum, we can discuss the topic.
There clearly is a new opportunity to talk about gender, or at least the presence of 'female' characters in a predominantly 'male' cast, though we're not sure in which continuity Windblade will fit (yes, IDW, but they have three series at the moment - though I doubt she'll fit in ReGen One).
As for the trans* point been raised: Yes, maybe, but I seriously do not think it is a good to just avoid talking about these issues. Especially when children are concerned, as they will grow up to be as narrow-minded as the parents raising them, in this way.
Sabrblade wrote:Hasbro: "Hey, we have this new character called Drift!"
Fandom: "WE HATE HIM."![]()
Hasbro: "Hey, we have a female version of Drift!"
Fandom: "WOW! INTERESTING!"
It won't be. TCC exclusives are conceived and made by the TCC. This was all Hasbro's doing.Doubledealer93 wrote:im so glad this was a fembot. im willing to bet it will be a TFCC exclusive though.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Convotron wrote:As far as the geisha comments, at most, the helmet/upper head design does resemble the basic shimada hairstyle associated with geisha but only from the front view of the head design. From any other angle, the resemblance is largely lost.
Does it only take a head design that weakly resembles the shimada hairstyle to qualify a character design wholly as a geisha? That's all it takes?
Incidentally, the shimada hairstyle was not exclusive to geisha, non-geisha women wore their hair like that as well.
The face design, particularly the red details around the eyes combined with the white colouring of the face is kabuki influenced, as already said in the thread.
Dagon wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Hasbro: "Hey, we have this new character called Drift!"
Fandom: "WE HATE HIM."![]()
Hasbro: "Hey, we have a female version of Drift!"
Fandom: "WOW! INTERESTING!"
What thread are you finding this response in? It doesn't seem to be this one so far.
I think the jet mode looks cool, but I have a very difficult time believing that a bunch of children --you know, the target audience that always gets brought up whenever the fandom complains about something-- really voted for a robo geshia. Female jet with swords? Yeah, sure. But I don't think this is really what the average child was envisioning the TF universe was missing.
Although, were it totally the fandom responsible for the vote, I agree with who ever it was who mentioned G1 Arcee, and I almost wonder how much of an analogue for her this thing is supposed to be.
MINDVVIPE wrote:Ya, but see, for people who don't really know crap about the details, the most familiar association is with a Geisha, and to a sad, lesser extent, this:
Erailea wrote:Not quite sure where the backlash about the geisha / kabuki thing is coming from though.
SW's SilverHammer wrote:Eat my ass funpub.
Burn wrote:And this is for taking Nemesis Maximo seriously.
*high fives Silly in the face*
carytheone wrote:I can't be assed to do any better right now.
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