RiddlerJ wrote:Wow, I really could've used this six months ago when I was trying to Ebay most of these guys.
I am a little disappointed that they haven't attempted Ravage and Laserbeak/Buzzsaw yet (I mean in robot mode). There are the animal helmets now. They could probably whip up something simple.
Seibertron wrote:I love the idea of this set though I think I would like it a bit more if it had stayed true to the theme. Either a "More Than Meets The Eye" Class of 1984 set (only with characters from the original first 3 parter) or a Season 1 Class of 1984 set that included all of the characters from Season 1, including the humans Spike, Sparkplug, Chip Chase and Dr Archevil as well as the Constructicons, Devastator, Jetfire, Shrapnel, Bombshell, Kickback and Reflector.
Sabrblade wrote:A set of 30 of the most beloved/iconic G1 characters that includes all of the 1984 cast (minus the three non-humanoid ones) doesn't make any sense?shockblast2 wrote:This set doesn't make sense.
All of the original 1984 characters are included in this set, plus five additional post-1984 characters who are likewise beloved/iconic. They did get all of the originals in there, and topped them off with five more dudes for extra goodness.shockblast2 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:A set of 30 of the most beloved/iconic G1 characters that includes all of the 1984 cast (minus the three non-humanoid ones) doesn't make any sense?shockblast2 wrote:This set doesn't make sense.
What are you talking about? Cast of what? The TF cartoon came out in 84 and last time I checked Arcee, Ultra Magnus, the Insecticons, and others were NOT introduced until later on. Years later for some. There were 18 original autobots and Perceptor wasn't one of them. Neither was Arcee. And theya re missing four or five of the 18. Not to mention almost half of the original decepticons, including the seekers.
Now, care to explain what in the hell you are talking about when you say "original cast"??
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
And neither had a toy in 1984. The toyline dictated who belonged to which year, not the cartoon.JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:If you really want to be pedantic, Hauler and the Reflector crew are missing. But Hauler never transformed in his sole appearance, and Reflector could be presented by a camera accessory. >:oP
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
chuckdawg1999 wrote:RiddlerJ wrote:Wow, I really could've used this six months ago when I was trying to Ebay most of these guys.
I am a little disappointed that they haven't attempted Ravage and Laserbeak/Buzzsaw yet (I mean in robot mode). There are the animal helmets now. They could probably whip up something simple.
I don't know about Laserbeak/Buzzsaw but they could do a great Beast Wars Ravage
Sabrblade wrote:And neither had a toy in 1984. The toyline dictated who belonged to which year, not the cartoon.JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:If you really want to be pedantic, Hauler and the Reflector crew are missing. But Hauler never transformed in his sole appearance, and Reflector could be presented by a camera accessory. >:oP
chuckdawg1999 wrote:Hauler was in an episode? Which one?
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:If you really want to be pedantic, Hauler and the Reflector crew are missing. But Hauler never transformed in his sole appearance, and Reflector could be presented by a camera accessory. >:oP
The toyline came first. It mapped out and decided who would appear in the fictions for each year. It's not like they first made characters for the show and then made toys of them afterward. The cartoon just decided to do a little early advertisement for some of the following years' toys now and then to get people excited about the next year's assortments of product. The cartoon relied on the toyline to be the backbone of the brand. Without the toys, we wouldn't have had the cartoon or the comics.Rodimus Prime wrote:Sabrblade wrote:And neither had a toy in 1984. The toyline dictated who belonged to which year, not the cartoon.JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:If you really want to be pedantic, Hauler and the Reflector crew are missing. But Hauler never transformed in his sole appearance, and Reflector could be presented by a camera accessory. >:oP
According to who? If they were in the cartoon in 1984-85 (season 1) then they belong in the class of '84.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:The toyline came first. It mapped out and decided who would appear in the fictions for each year. It's not like they first made characters for the show and then made toys of them afterward. The cartoon just decided to do a little early advertisement for some of the following years' toys now and then to get people excited about the next year's assortments of product. The cartoon relied on the toyline to be the backbone of the brand. Without the toys, we wouldn't have had the cartoon or the comics.Rodimus Prime wrote:According to who? If they were in the cartoon in 1984-85 (season 1) then they belong in the class of '84.
I already covered this. This is the 1984 cast, plus five additional beloved/iconic characters, who were probably included to make the number of Kreons an even 30 for the anniversary.Rodimus Prime wrote:So the Arcee, Perceptor and Magnus toys were out in '84? And the Diaclones don't count, because they weren't technically the Transformers toys. They were just based on them. I can count Magnus, as he is the repaint of Prime (the white cab used in the Kreo set is, anyway) but the other 2?
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:I already covered this. This is the 1984 cast, plus five additional beloved/iconic characters, who were probably included to make the number of Kreons an even 30 for the anniversary.Rodimus Prime wrote:So the Arcee, Perceptor and Magnus toys were out in '84? And the Diaclones don't count, because they weren't technically the Transformers toys. They were just based on them. I can count Magnus, as he is the repaint of Prime (the white cab used in the Kreo set is, anyway) but the other 2?
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
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