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Just watched it. Kinda nice ep...nothing great, but not offensive or boring. Magnus and his Hammer are cool. Sentinal is a douchebag. I enjoyed it when Optimus told Sentinel off near the end. Jazz is REAL cool.


Wonder how they are gonna work this plot-twist with Sari and her identity. Isaac did say near the end of Megatron Rising that he had something of great importance to tell her, but was never given the chance....hmmmm.....me wonders...


Space bridge technology was developed by Autobots in this series....How unusual....has always been the other way around, but owell....new continuity, new ideas...



Things we need to see more of: Jazz, Ultra Magnus, and Megatron.
Jazz's whole Metallikato/ninja thing is nice...would like to see him and Prowl together for a few eps! Would also rock to see Megs and Mags go at it! Would be a great fight!

Thing we can see less of: Sentinel "The Douchebag" Prime. He's got his head firmly stuck up his.....well, we all saw how he is!

All in all, not a bad ep...not one of the greats either, but definitely interesting.

Pyrostrata wrote:Wonder how they are gonna work this plot-twist with Sari and her identity. Isaac did say near the end of Megatron Rising that he had something of great importance to tell her, but was never given the chance....hmmmm.....me wonders...

right...

So much dissing towards Sentinel. I know he's a jerk/bigot/etc., but still.

I haven't seen this much character bashing/hating since Kurata's true ambitions were revealed in Digimon Savers/Data Squad.

I really liked this episode- keep it up! No more humans! I think this is the actual begining of the series, now. Megatron has found a secret lair, more Autobots have arrived, Sari has an excuse for being on the show, and Dragon Ball esque story line put in. So I think this is a perfect way to start off this season.

My two favorite parts in the episode was when Sentinal got pounded by Grimlock and friends and when Optimus tolled off Sentinal.

Ultra Magnus is so badass he doesn't even need to move a circuit to blow the crap out of a group of robots. Can he control weather now? He doesn't even need to swing his hammer to kill stuff! Can he even move? I don't think he has ever moved an inch except when in his alt. mode. Has anyone else noticed this?

Sabrblade wrote:So much dissing towards Sentinel. I know he's a jerk/bigot/etc., but still.

I really enjoyed all the scenes that lousy glitchhead was in. He's a grade-A cyberclown.

Even those of you that don't like him, ... don'tcha think his mere presence makes previously annoying characters like Bumblebee and Optimus a lot more likable?

Sari is to use a G.I. Joe comparison a Synthoid like being with some of megatron spark injected into her to make her live. Also Prowl and jazz are kind of like snake eyes and storm shadow in that they belong to the same clan but unlike snake eyes and storm shadow they are not on oppisite sides of the conflict at least that is the feeling I get. I'm looking forward to the next episode in two weeks curse you cartoon network and your need to run ben ten again on sat.

I missed the first half, but here's what I got...

I hate Sentinel Prime, even though he looks like The Tick. I'm very happy that Optimus stepped to him. I always love seeing someone smug getting smacked down, so thatnk you DinoBots, it's about time you did something worth a dam.

The "Organic" thing, I get it from the BA episode, and thought it added alot to the individual interactions of this episode.

Jazz, I'm so happy that they wrote him right even though they F___ed up his design I'm actualy looking forward to a friendly ongoing competition between him and Prowl(who's been about the only one I realy liked thus far).

Ultra Magnus is Thor!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

ALRIGHT, YEAH

Rebuild the AllSpark, ok, we have a plot!

Little girl getting fired from her job...

Well, she may be guardian of the most powerful object on Cyberton, but it's nice to see someone on Earth have some sense and take a company away from her

I know I often am negative about this series, but I just want to once again say, I like the writing, I just wish the art work and origin tweeking would improve.

Did noone else get the part where Bumblebee says, "I guess that's why they call him Ultra Magnus!"? I believe this is a reference to the fandoms complaining about how every Ultra Magnus in recent years has just been a white Prime repaint and so are not worthy of the title "Ultra".

UltraPrimal wrote:Did noone else get the part where Bumblebee says, "I guess that's why they call him Ultra Magnus!"? I believe this is a reference to the fandoms complaining about how every Ultra Magnus in recent years has just been a white Prime repaint and so are not worthy of the title "Ultra".

Not every recent Ultra Magnus. Remember Titanium 6" G1 Ultra Magnus? He was a Prime repaint. But his vehicle mode was in scale with Hyrbid Style Convoy, though his robot mode wasn't.

Well, I'm happy to be getting some new characters!

Sentinel REALLY hates Optimus, doesn't he? It's ok, we need a little development in there. Jazz is cool, but he isn't quite as....cute as G1 Jazz. But then again, nobody is. And as for Ultra Magnus, what an upgrade! If he can't deal with something right now, it's because he is too busy being godlike and stuffs.

And it is a bit strange seeing the Cons wanting to rip off Autobot tech. Usually they have the upper hand in terms of technology, but ok. As long as it's not a crazy invention by the likes of Wheeljack or something..

Ok, I'm getting a bit incoherent. Great show!

Now things are getting more Cybertronian! I girly squealed when Megs reveals his intentions to use a spacebridge to take over Cybertron. Even though it wasn't the most action-packed episode I really felt like I was "home again" watching it. However, enough about it was new/changed that I feel like I am enjoying a totally new series. I also WTF about spacebridges being Autobot-only tech, but I'm open to it. I'm very excited that it has got in to Con hands!

Sentinal Prime not only doesn't seem like he belongs at the right hand of Magnus, but I truly think that he does NOT belong there. I think that Sentinal is the washout, or would have been by fair means. The episode highly suggests that Optimus and Sentinal are in a reverse role situation. I won't be surprised if later on it is revealed that Sentinal "switched papers" in a way with Optimus. In some yet to be revealed way, Sentinal cheated to get where he is and the rightful academy graduate, the rightful second in command of the Elite Guard is actually Optimus. Magnus is smart, I think he's suspecting something now too. One of the biggest themes in TF multiverse is leadership and the meaning of it. I can't wait to see what is coming along that line for the two Primes!

I want very much for Sentinal Prime to have a fall from grace. Megs can always use a disgruntled, over ambitious guy like that, even if Sentinal wouldn't know he was helping the 'con cause. In fact, that would be more fun.

shortround wrote:Sari is to use a G.I. Joe comparison a Synthoid like being with some of megatron spark injected into her to make her live. Also Prowl and jazz are kind of like snake eyes and storm shadow in that they belong to the same clan but unlike snake eyes and storm shadow they are not on oppisite sides of the conflict at least that is the feeling I get. I'm looking forward to the next episode in two weeks curse you cartoon network and your need to run ben ten again on sat.

Seriously Shortround, I think you are on to something there. The allspark spoke to Sari on just a few occasions, and the two most memorable things it has shown her were DNA and Megatron.

I also see the Snake Eyes and Storm Shadow comparison, with Jazz being more like a young Tommy. Will Jazz teaching Prowl more about Metalikato lead to Prowl becoming a greater ninja than Jazz? How will Jazz feel about that?

Unlike Sentinal Prime, I don't anticipate Jazz turning coats (intentionally or not) but I am enjoying the dynamic between him and Prowl. I like that it is not the same as the one between the two Primes. In this case, even if bad oil does brew, the two ninjas should eventually become "sword" brothers again. Note that both of them also love the organic side of Earth, and are facinated with it.

That was a Good one! The Autobots are toughening Up finally. Megatrons Face looks so much like G1 Megatrons Face Even down to the dark brows over his eyes right under his forehead plate. And thank God Megatron is up and walking and has a Base set up; It really felt like Transformers episode Finally. And this whole realization that pockets of the Allsparks Energy is scattered all over not just the city but the planet. I think we might see Megatron collecting A new version of what we know as....... Energon Cubes!
Wouldnt that be crazy?! JAzz is AWSOME! Jazz is Ninja now with nunchucks?!!
I like how Jazz and Prowl showed off for eacthother. And when Jazz said to Prime and Prowl " Mind if I join you?" , I knew right there he just officially became apart of their earth crew, He's here for good now! And They tried to give him that G1 Scatman Crothers vibe, smokey, jazzy some raspiness and Hip. Robert STACK is BACK as Ultra Magus! It was good to hear him. Ultra Magnus is like God with that Staff! At first I kept thinking he was holding up a Camera on a Pole like he was Filming something( i dunno ) It looks very ordinary for being what it is, But he can stop the World that thing! I wanna see how him and Megatron will fair with one another.

ThunderThruster wrote:

NiteStar wrote:Robert STACK is BACK as Ultra Magus! It was good to hear him.

you do realize that robert stack is dead?!

Silly. They brought him back to life just for this role.

ThunderThruster wrote:

NiteStar wrote:Robert STACK is BACK as Ultra Magus! It was good to hear him.

you do realize that robert stack is dead?!

No he isn't. That's Hasbro propaganda. They're hiding the truth! He's still alive, in a Hasbro prison. Made from Takara blocktown blocks.

Thyunda wrote:

ThunderThruster wrote:

NiteStar wrote:Robert STACK is BACK as Ultra Magus! It was good to hear him.

you do realize that robert stack is dead?!

No he isn't. That's Hasbro propaganda. They're hiding the truth! He's still alive, in a Hasbro prison. Made from Takara blocktown blocks.

Yes, and his cellmate is Chris Latta

Oh, didn't you hear? They had to separate them. They'd just fight.

ThunderThruster wrote:

NiteStar wrote:Robert STACK is BACK as Ultra Magus! It was good to hear him.

you do realize that robert stack is dead?!

Yeah, this Ultra Magnus was played by Jeff Bennett.

Saw it last night (recorded it) and it was a really, really good episode.

I didn’t like some of the Ninja crap and UM seemed a little too gullible, but I like how it expanded on the scenario a bit.

Jazz wasn’t too bad, the episode didn’t concentrate on G1 reference but more kept to the story, which is good. I had fun watching it!

I enjoyed this episode. I really want to see how Ultra Magnus compares in power to the Cecepticons though. Given how powerful he seems to be he may end up getting written out, or depowered or something so Optimus can have a chance to shine.

Also, just how does the Cybertronian ranking system work in this series?

Ragnorok64 wrote:I enjoyed this episode. I really want to see how Ultra Magnus compares in power to the Cecepticons though. Given how powerful he seems to be he may end up getting written out, or depowered or something so Optimus can have a chance to shine.

Also, just how does the Cybertronian ranking system work in this series?

Maybe the 'Ultra' prefix is like G1 'Prime'.

Thyunda wrote:

Ragnorok64 wrote:I enjoyed this episode. I really want to see how Ultra Magnus compares in power to the Cecepticons though. Given how powerful he seems to be he may end up getting written out, or depowered or something so Optimus can have a chance to shine.

Also, just how does the Cybertronian ranking system work in this series?

Maybe the 'Ultra' prefix is like G1 'Prime'.

I was referring to just how Sentinel and Optimus could still be the same rank.

tigertracks 24 wrote:Sentinel's stupidity, makes one wonder how he was ever chosen to be in the Elite Guard. Must be a lot of bots called in sick that day.

I'm thinking he was chosen because he is a capable warrior, but the fact that he's under the watchful eye of Ultra Magnus suggests that someone, perhaps Magnus himself, realized that Sentinel isn't suitable for independant command, or even "frontline material." Magnus might have even hinted as much when he stated:

Ultra Magnus wrote:In the heat of battle, Optimus Prime exhibited the qualities of a true leader. Strategic thinking, determination, and above all, loyalty. Something you could learn a thing or two about, Sentinel Prime.

And Sentinel seemed a little surprised by Magnus' comment. It may be he is or will come to realize that he's wasn't chosen to be by Magnus' side out of honor, but because he's shown himself to be unsuited for any other position.

It also occurs to me that Magnus may have been secretly testing both Primes during this episode. He spends most of the episode practically in the background, saying little, not even as Sentinel is browbeating Optimus. He doesn't interfere during the encounter with the Dinobots until it's clear Sentinel has antagonized them to the point where they will be dangerous. And I also noted Magnus giving Sentinel a look when Sentinel suggested they retreat back to the ship, during a very clear crisis, just because Sari was running towards them. If Magnus was testing them, his statement above makes it clear that Optimus apparently passed - and Sentinel failed.

Ragnorok64 wrote:

Thyunda wrote:

Ragnorok64 wrote:I enjoyed this episode. I really want to see how Ultra Magnus compares in power to the Cecepticons though. Given how powerful he seems to be he may end up getting written out, or depowered or something so Optimus can have a chance to shine.

Also, just how does the Cybertronian ranking system work in this series?

Maybe the 'Ultra' prefix is like G1 'Prime'.

I was referring to just how Sentinel and Optimus could still be the same rank.

Maybe Prime refers to 'squad leader'. Not sure who Sentinel leads though.