Henry921 wrote:You can always be counted on to listen to reason, Pryme.
Dead Metal wrote:Have you ever, and i mean ever seen/read/heard something that is completely original and does not copy/homage/pay tribute to something else? Here's a hint: Nope. You never have and you never will.
Black Hat wrote:Anyway, I'm not sad to see the back of a KO company but I hope they don't crack down on 3Ps, because as mentioned before there's a big difference between making barely-altered clones of existing work and making entirely originally engineered and designed figures that look like an existing character.
Terrsolpix wrote:WJ has been the premiere KO company for quite a few years now. I'll miss them, especially since Black Apple won't be in the scene after this.
However, on the discussion of third party vs. KO: please understand the difference between a design or character being taken from this, extremely conservatively, billion dollar corporation and the outright theft of their products. This will most likely fall on deaf ears, but third parties aren't hurting Hasbro's profits. Legally what they do is in the grey area but their presence only enriches our hobby.
Whatever moral quandaries you have with them has nothing to do with what is indisputably infringing on Hasbro and Takara property.
Despite this, please don't jump to defending Hasbro whenever KOs are brought up. The KO industry pales in comparison to the sheer size of Hasbro and Takara. Whatever you say on a fan forum regarding KOs won't give you a blessing from HasTak."
ZeroWolf wrote:My big wish is that has/tak face competition in the Transforming robot arena like the old tf vs gobot days. A new ip needs to come along to give the franchise a kick up the backside. To be blunt, 3p aren't competing as they don't own the base designs, a simple licence would change them from non-official to official. The competition im talking of is more Sony vs Microsoft in the gaming arena.
-Kanrabat- wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:My big wish is that has/tak face competition in the Transforming robot arena like the old tf vs gobot days. A new ip needs to come along to give the franchise a kick up the backside. To be blunt, 3p aren't competing as they don't own the base designs, a simple licence would change them from non-official to official. The competition im talking of is more Sony vs Microsoft in the gaming arena.
To TRULY compete, one must up their production value and marketing budget tremendously. Especially if the company want to go international.
Sonokong is already doing that with their awesome transforming robot lines, but their market is sadly limited to South Korea. It's really a bummer because importing these toys are REALLY expensive. I got some and I love them. Hardness, size, and durability remisent of the Unicron Trilogy era. Sonokong already licenced and reissued Beast Wars and Cybertron figures. So it's a bit baffling they won't go international.
BTW, I got this HUGE beast of a combiner below and it's fantastic:
Just imagine being able to buy such a thing from Walmart.
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A 3P company could come up with their own original line and then rent their licence to a huge corporation like Bandai. They then will handle the rest.
A bit like what Azone did for the Kikipop dolls. But even then, the market of these ultra expensive (and adorable) dolls is limited to Japan. Going mass market international can't be done overnight it seems.
ZeroWolf wrote:I need that combiner in my life...especially that red and blue one, love unconventional combiner designs.
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Wonko, by majority it's Devy and Predaking who are outsize - the others aren't too small, those two are too big. I mean, yeah, they're at the mass-shifted colossus size from the cartoon and Omega Supreme is made to match. But it's at the cost of being out of whack with their fellows, the individual Predacons and Constructicons being oversize, and being available only as expensive Titan-class giftsets which there's only room for so many of at a time.
Krapicon wrote:I read an article just back in November last year, were a major flood of toxic toys are coming from China.
o.supreme wrote:you do realize that up until a couple of years ago there products were all manufactured in Hong Kong, and now in Vietnam? Not that much of a difference geographically speaking.
o.supreme wrote:Hong Kong is technically part of China, though it is still considered a "sovereign state", as I'm sure you are no doubt aware, that sovereignty is being increasingly challenged by the mainland government.
o.supreme wrote:This could be pure rumor/misinformation on my part, so please forgive me if I am wrong, but I seem to remember Hasbro saying something about moving manufacturing to India at some point? - Good for avoiding communist governments, but if you are frustrated with QC issues now, expect them to exponentially increase if that happens.
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