Autobot032 wrote:
Apparently you missed the part about enjoying summer movies. Seriously, if movies give you this much of a conniption fit every time, why continually put yourself through that kind of torture.
Don't get me wrong, you're entitled to your opinion, but we get it. You're beating a dead horse into the ground. Seriously, how many times do you need to say you thought the movies were awful?
If you don't like 'em, fine. That's perfectly fine, that's your right! Just say your piece, give an opinion here and there (if necessary), but quit beating the dead horse. It's getting old.
And this summer was one of the best I've seen in a LONG time.
Star Trek?
Revenge Of The Fallen?
The Rise Of Cobra?
The Hangover?
Ponyo?
If all you do is constantly seek out the worst parts of anything, then that's all you'll ever see. You'll be completely oblivious to the craftsmanship behind the scenes, the special effects, the location shooting, etc. Each piece alone has it's pros and cons, but when put together, they usually give us a thrill ride well worth taking. An adventure worth experiencing.
There's something to like about these movies, you simply have to be looking for it. You've chosen not to.
Simple as that.
Yay debate! Haven't had one of those in a while. Think this is my first T-Former debate, and yet it's strangely about summer movies and film and not really transformers.....go fig.
So first off Hi! Nice to meet you.
Beating dear ponies, only when people try to breath life into them. A dead horse is dead for a reason, but when people go off saying (It's campy, so all the bad is acceptable), people coming back to re-affirm said horse is dead so others don't try to bring said horse back to life I think is more then a just cause.
Mind you, my expectations aren't really that high. When giant movie studios come together with millions of dollars and spearhead films with strong star power and directors which have prove themselves in the film industry....all I really expect is.....
Great Special FX
Great Story
Awesome Acting
and a need to go back and watch said film numerous times. Which I have done this summer, I watched Star Trek multiple times and thought it was great. Watched Terminator and was joyfully blown out of my expectations. Hell even Wolverine was fun being I knew what I was getting into with FOX helming the franchise in the heat of the "Last Stand" fiasco.... District 9 was fantastic. In fact I stress again people who haven't seen this film go see it.
But here's something in contrast with your assumptions, I was only critiquing Joe, and yet for some reason you felt said critique is a tentpole by which to judge my overall movie taste? Bad form. My movie taste is far and expansive and wonderfully diverse, and simply cannot be judged based on your interpretations of my ever unfaltering detest of GI Joe.
This summer was disappointing, though I found Wolverine entertaining, it was still another "Last Stand"....Transformers, arguably the biggest and most anticipated film of the year, and against a large precent of movie-lovers wishes(Not all movielovers.....again don't read more into this), the most successful, was very disappointing. And again I went into this film carrying no G1 fan expectations. I was more then open (being I loved the first film) to further re-interpretations and was just let down. Seeing all the cut corners, the bad writing, just made me sad being this was the one film I was most looking forward too. It pretty much commanded higher expectations....and failed to deliver. We've already covered "Joe". I'm sure there are others I'm just too tired to recollect the bad I've blocked from my mind.
So no dear Autobot032,
I don't choose to see the bad in all film ever all the way back down to the old B&W days of Charlie Chaplin (Mind you, I'm not reading more into your post, just ol fashioned sarcasim) but in a summer in which the bad outweighed to good....yeah, that qualifies as disappointment.
And again, more bad form, thinking I cannot enjoy the craft of film making being I've been trained and am active in the wonderful field of film and art and all the above. From working with Set builders who have worked on Spiderman and The Abyss and even the first Transformers film to filming short films with workers who still actively work at ILM to even helming my own short films and building my own giant robots for film (For those interested, see my album in the art thread....shameless plug, I know
) to crafting costumes and makeup art and concept art for other franchises such as the ever popular but doomed to Production Hell license of VOLTRON, the furry 80's fun of Thundercats, even working as a Talent to interview the stars of WWE and moving forward to begin my own stunt work and fighting choreography....you deem me unable to enjoy the hard work involved in film making? Shame shame shame.
Nay I say, in fact I would argue because of my training in programs such as MAYA and 3D Max and Shake and After Effects and Final Cut Pro and Adobe Premiere and Photoshop and Illustrator and film making and set building and concept art and story boarding and directing and promotional art that I cannot help but SEE all the work, and know when shortcuts are taken, when people are taking the easy way out, when bad compositing is done, when bad 3D renders are made and thrown into a film anyways, when bad lines are preformed, when studios make cuts to a film and it shows, and when the marketing peeps or even some producers have too much say and abuse their power just to sell one more piece of plastic with a gimmick because it was featured in a summer blockbuster hopeful.
And mind you, I noticed you didn't even address the point I brought up? Pray tell why?
Enough however, I must rest. This is fun though, at least for me. Don't ask why I just enjoy it for whatever sick reason there is, so I await your counter. Just as much as I hope you awaited my parry.
En Guard,
Josh
I mean from what I've read in your posts, you seem to have liked the movie and were able to point out alot of what you liked. Though you picked out a few thing you didn't, i jut doesn't seem to justify being a "Cluster bomb" as you seem to put it.
