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Six ways G.I. Joe could beat Transformers?

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Re: Six ways G.I. Joe could beat Transformers?

Postby Autobot13 » Mon Aug 10, 2009 4:27 pm

Sorry guys. saw joe last night. it kinda... well sucked. i was at the drive in. at least ROTF was on afterwards. that movie is way better the second time.
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Re: Six ways G.I. Joe could beat Transformers?

Postby Fallenprime27 » Mon Aug 10, 2009 5:03 pm

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Im sorry, but i've seen the movie and thier is no way this movie can beat Transformers ROTF, the only good thing about this movie was snake eyes when he fights Storm Shadow, but other then that I was disappointed
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Re: Six ways G.I. Joe could beat Transformers?

Postby Iamwarhorse » Mon Aug 10, 2009 8:43 pm

ravagesoul27 wrote:Im sorry, but i've seen the movie and thier is no way this movie can beat Transformers ROTF, the only good thing about this movie was snake eyes when he fights Storm Shadow, but other then that I was disappointed


Yep. That's what I thought. Snake Eyes eas the only cool character in the movie. The rest seemed to be Starship Troopers rejects or Linda Hamilton/Sarah Connor wannabes. And when the only memorable line is from another movie "Houston, we have a problem" can't say the dialogue was very witty as well.

The characters, I could give a crap about, no great quotes, and it all seemed a bit farfetched. The action scenes all seemed to be ripped off of other movies, there were some scenes I swore I saw in Black Hawk Down (during the flashbacks).

Not a bad movie, but definitely not better than ROTF. So far, favorite movies of the year

Star Trek
Transformers 2
The Hangover
17 Again
GI Joe

Movies that were alright, but I'm not going to buy
Fast and Furious
Public Enemies
Knowing
Wolverine

Movies that totally sucked.
Harry Potter HBP
Watchmen
I Love You Beth Cooper

Movies I'm looking forward to
District 9
2012

Not sure about Avatar. I want to see a trailer first before I decide.
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Re: Six ways G.I. Joe could beat Transformers?

Postby Autobot032 » Mon Aug 10, 2009 9:01 pm

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ravagesoul27 wrote:Im sorry, but i've seen the movie and thier is no way this movie can beat Transformers ROTF, the only good thing about this movie was snake eyes when he fights Storm Shadow, but other then that I was disappointed


Yep. That's what I thought. Snake Eyes eas the only cool character in the movie. The rest seemed to be Starship Troopers rejects or Linda Hamilton/Sarah Connor wannabes. And when the only memorable line is from another movie "Houston, we have a problem" can't say the dialogue was very witty as well.


Wow.

Iamwarhorse wrote:The characters, I could give a crap about, no great quotes, and it all seemed a bit farfetched. The action scenes all seemed to be ripped off of other movies, there were some scenes I swore I saw in Black Hawk Down (during the flashbacks).


Wow. Again.

Did we see the same movie? Because this movie actually made me a fan of G.I. Joe, and if a sequel is greenlighted (which I hope), I'll be there opening night or at the midnight showing, whatever happens.

Iamwarhorse wrote:Not a bad movie, but definitely not better than ROTF. So far, favorite movies of the year

Star Trek
Transformers 2
The Hangover
17 Again
GI Joe


I didn't see 17 Again, so I can't comment on it. The rest of the list, I agree with. Though not in that order.

Iamwarhorse wrote:Movies that were alright, but I'm not going to buy
Fast and Furious
Public Enemies
Knowing
Wolverine


Haven't seen Wolverine, but I heard it was awful. Didn't see Public Enemies either. As for F&F and Knowing...I'd add F&F to the collection, it was the best of the films, so far. Knowing is one of those movies that's really good, really scares the **** out of you, but it's not something you'd find yourself sitting through again.

Iamwarhorse wrote:Movies that totally sucked.
Harry Potter HBP
Watchmen
I Love You Beth Cooper

Movies I'm looking forward to
District 9
2012

Not sure about Avatar. I want to see a trailer first before I decide.


Won't go near a HP movie with a million foot pole, and an all expenses paid trip. I just can't stand it. It bores me soooo bad.

Watchmen was excellent, but it never really made a dent like it should've. And excessively gory, more than needed, really. Rorschach and the meat cleaver... I still get a faint feeling whenever I think about it. The first chop, I could deal with...the repeated ones are the ones that made me want to collapse.

I'll wait for DVD for Beth Cooper.

I've had enough disaster epics to last me a good, long while. I'll be skipping 2012 all the way around.

District 9...interests me greatly.

As for Avatar...you mean the Cameron film, or the Airbender flick?
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Re: Six ways G.I. Joe could beat Transformers?

Postby Iamwarhorse » Mon Aug 10, 2009 10:09 pm

Yeah, I meant the Cameron film. If I meant The Last Airbender, I would have said that, and the fact I mentioned "waiting for a trailer" should have given the signal of what movie I was talking about.

I liked 17 Again, because it kind of surprised me. I actually liked it, when I was expecting it to totally suck.

I have a funny feeling I might end up liking District 9 above all else in the end. Don't know why, but it's giving that vibe off for me.

GI Joe, went in not knowing anything about GI Joe, went out not knowing much either. People kept on saying how the character development and plot was great, and well, it really wasn't. It's your typical action flick, but everything I've seen before. The green crud, I saw all that in ROTK, alot of the military shots were just like Black Hawk Down. The back stories of everyone knowing eachother were stupid. And the reasons for half of them going bad were retarded as well. And I cant take the Third Rock from the Sun dweeb as the big baddie seriously. That had me laughing more than anything!

Movie won't be remembered in two weeks from now. By this Friday, District 9 will kick it's ass! Now that's a movie to look forward to.
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Re: Six ways G.I. Joe could beat Transformers?

Postby Autobot032 » Mon Aug 10, 2009 11:12 pm

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Iamwarhorse wrote:Yeah, I meant the Cameron film. If I meant The Last Airbender, I would have said that, and the fact I mentioned "waiting for a trailer" should have given the signal of what movie I was talking about.


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Re: Six ways G.I. Joe could beat Transformers?

Postby 5150 Cruiser » Tue Aug 11, 2009 1:28 am

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Iamwarhorse wrote:Yeah, I meant the Cameron film. If I meant The Last Airbender, I would have said that, and the fact I mentioned "waiting for a trailer" should have given the signal of what movie I was talking about.



So there's two "avatar" type movies coming out? Isn't the Cartoon Called "Avatar the last Airbender"? So M.K.S. is making a movie as well as Cameron?
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Re: Six ways G.I. Joe could beat Transformers?

Postby Autobot032 » Tue Aug 11, 2009 1:39 am

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Iamwarhorse wrote:Yeah, I meant the Cameron film. If I meant The Last Airbender, I would have said that, and the fact I mentioned "waiting for a trailer" should have given the signal of what movie I was talking about.



So there's two "avatar" type movies coming out? Isn't the Cartoon Called "Avatar the last Airbender"? So M.K.S. is making a movie as well as Cameron?
Sorry, didn't mean to change the subject. Just curious.


Er, not quite.


M.N.S. is making a movie based on the cartoon Avatar: The Last Airbender.
Cameron is making a movie called Avatar.
But that's where the similarities end.

M.N.S's movie is simply called The Last Airbender (but people in the know will quickly figure it out, and those who haven't, soon will.)

Cameron's movie is basically an intelligent and classy version of Robot Jox, as far as I know. They showed off the militaristic robotic exosuit used in the film at one of the conventions earlier this year.

Due to confusion issues (and I think Cameron beating them to the punch) M.N.S. had to give in and stick with The Last Airbender as the title of his film.

That's why it's confusing. Trust me, at first I had no idea what was going on.
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Re: Six ways G.I. Joe could beat Transformers?

Postby 5150 Cruiser » Tue Aug 11, 2009 1:09 pm

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5150 Cruiser wrote:
Iamwarhorse wrote:Yeah, I meant the Cameron film. If I meant The Last Airbender, I would have said that, and the fact I mentioned "waiting for a trailer" should have given the signal of what movie I was talking about.



So there's two "avatar" type movies coming out? Isn't the Cartoon Called "Avatar the last Airbender"? So M.K.S. is making a movie as well as Cameron?
Sorry, didn't mean to change the subject. Just curious.


Er, not quite.


M.N.S. is making a movie based on the cartoon Avatar: The Last Airbender.
Cameron is making a movie called Avatar.
But that's where the similarities end.

M.N.S's movie is simply called The Last Airbender (but people in the know will quickly figure it out, and those who haven't, soon will.)

Cameron's movie is basically an intelligent and classy version of Robot Jox, as far as I know. They showed off the militaristic robotic exosuit used in the film at one of the conventions earlier this year.

Due to confusion issues (and I think Cameron beating them to the punch) M.N.S. had to give in and stick with The Last Airbender as the title of his film.

That's why it's confusing. Trust me, at first I had no idea what was going on.


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Re: Six ways G.I. Joe could beat Transformers?

Postby TankedThomas » Fri Aug 14, 2009 3:31 am

I personally liked G.I. Joe a lot more than Transformers ROTF. ROTF didn't have the structure that G.I. Joe did. However, the original Transformers movie did have better structure, although I liked ROTF better. I didn't like the first Transformers movie either, but that was from a hyped-up fan point of view. It was on TV (broadcast in HD. W00T) on Monday night so I taped it and watched it today. Putting aside the raging hate I had for it, and the fact I was a die-hard fan, I managed to enjoy it for what it was. So reading this article infuriated me. Yea, I agree with them on the actress thing. I hate Megan Fox. But I didn't go to see Transformers to see Megan Fox. I dreaded the fact she was in it. And the first point, okay that makes sense. But the other 4 points are OPINIONS which are stated as if fact. It's a joke how biased and ridiculous this article is.

By the way, for dumbasses, nanobots are real. Maybe not to a G.I. Joe Rise of Cobra extent, but they do exist...

Oh, and they mentioned no memorable stuff in ROTF. What about the forest scene? What about when Optimus first arrives? All those memorable scenes? Yea, that's right. There were a lot of them, if you didn't have your mind still set with the Dark Knight (which personally I hated a lot and couldn't see why it was so popular, but that's just me). I'm so damn sick of stupid articles like this one.
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Re: Six ways G.I. Joe could beat Transformers?

Postby 5150 Cruiser » Fri Aug 14, 2009 12:24 pm

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So not that it really matters, but how is this movie doing financially? IS it doing better than expected,or flopping? I can't imagine it flopping, but just curious tosee how its doing.
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Re: Six ways G.I. Joe could beat Transformers?

Postby Editor » Fri Aug 14, 2009 12:40 pm

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5150 Cruiser wrote:So not that it really matters, but how is this movie doing financially? IS it doing better than expected,or flopping? I can't imagine it flopping, but just curious tosee how its doing.


According to Box Office Mojo
It cost approx 175 Million to make.

Gross as of Wednesday Aug 12th.
Domestic: $71,889,532 53.9%
+ Foreign: $61,461,383 46.1%
= Worldwide: $133,350,915

So currently it is stting at -$41,649,085. But it should take more than enough to cover it's production costs in a couple days, and then start generating pure profit.

For comparison ROTF cost approx 200 Million.
Domestic: $394,790,193 48.1%
+ Foreign: $426,341,150 51.9%
= Worldwide: $821,131,343

Profits of more that 621 Million at this point.

I think it's safe to say that Hasbro's investment is secure.
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Re: Six ways G.I. Joe could beat Transformers?

Postby tom brokaw » Fri Aug 14, 2009 4:50 pm

^ wow all those numbers hurt my head
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Re: Six ways G.I. Joe could beat Transformers?

Postby Optimus Rhyme » Fri Aug 14, 2009 6:29 pm

Editor wrote:
5150 Cruiser wrote:So not that it really matters, but how is this movie doing financially? IS it doing better than expected,or flopping? I can't imagine it flopping, but just curious tosee how its doing.


According to Box Office Mojo
It cost approx 175 Million to make.

Gross as of Wednesday Aug 12th.
Domestic: $71,889,532 53.9%
+ Foreign: $61,461,383 46.1%
= Worldwide: $133,350,915

So currently it is stting at -$41,649,085. But it should take more than enough to cover it's production costs in a couple days, and then start generating pure profit.

For comparison ROTF cost approx 200 Million.
Domestic: $394,790,193 48.1%
+ Foreign: $426,341,150 51.9%
= Worldwide: $821,131,343

Profits of more that 621 Million at this point.

I think it's safe to say that Hasbro's investment is secure.

Not exactly. Movie studios only receive roughly 55% of the total gross of a movie so as of right now with those numbers, Joe has only make just over 73 million leaving it still over a 100 million in the hole. After seeing it myself and looking at it's first weekend numbers it will probably just barely break even if that much. It has no staying power nor is it entertaining enough for repeat viewings like ROTF. And after watching both movies I'm still left wondering what that 175 million was spent on. The effects were nowhere near as nice as ROTF and it sure wasn't spent on the writers or the plot.
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Re: Six ways G.I. Joe could beat Transformers?

Postby Autobot032 » Sat Aug 15, 2009 3:34 am

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Optimus Rhyme wrote:Not exactly. Movie studios only receive roughly 55% of the total gross of a movie so as of right now with those numbers, Joe has only make just over 73 million leaving it still over a 100 million in the hole. After seeing it myself and looking at it's first weekend numbers it will probably just barely break even if that much. It has no staying power nor is it entertaining enough for repeat viewings like ROTF. And after watching both movies I'm still left wondering what that 175 million was spent on. The effects were nowhere near as nice as ROTF and it sure wasn't spent on the writers or the plot.


Don't get me wrong, I love ROTF. But I can honestly say I'd most likely choose TROC over ROTF, on almost any given day, due to time constraints. At 2.5 hours, ROTF isn't the kind of movie you can just pop in for the hell of it. That's a big chunk of time for most people, especially with day to day hustle and bustle.

TROC is about ten minutes short of two hours, and it's not as intense or draining as ROTF is.

As for staying power, I think I might have to agree. I'm not sure why audiences haven't embraced the film, because it's a great romp, but it just doesn't have the pull ROTF seems to have.
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Re: Six ways G.I. Joe could beat Transformers?

Postby Iamwarhorse » Sat Aug 15, 2009 1:17 pm

Autobot032 wrote:
Optimus Rhyme wrote:Not exactly. Movie studios only receive roughly 55% of the total gross of a movie so as of right now with those numbers, Joe has only make just over 73 million leaving it still over a 100 million in the hole. After seeing it myself and looking at it's first weekend numbers it will probably just barely break even if that much. It has no staying power nor is it entertaining enough for repeat viewings like ROTF. And after watching both movies I'm still left wondering what that 175 million was spent on. The effects were nowhere near as nice as ROTF and it sure wasn't spent on the writers or the plot.


Don't get me wrong, I love ROTF. But I can honestly say I'd most likely choose TROC over ROTF, on almost any given day, due to time constraints. At 2.5 hours, ROTF isn't the kind of movie you can just pop in for the hell of it. That's a big chunk of time for most people, especially with day to day hustle and bustle.

TROC is about ten minutes short of two hours, and it's not as intense or draining as ROTF is.

As for staying power, I think I might have to agree. I'm not sure why audiences haven't embraced the film, because it's a great romp, but it just doesn't have the pull ROTF seems to have.


Due to time restraints? The length of time has nothing to do with a movie's re-watchability whatsoever, and proof of that is the number one box office movies of both adjusted and unadjusted times. Titanic was 3 hours, and Gone With the Wind was 4. The other big hits such as LOTR and POTC are also very long films, and were huge successes at the box office. And I am constantly popping in LOTR in my DVD. You put in awesome fight scenes, and great characters, the audience will eat it up. And despite what the critics want you to believe, but ROTF did have the better characters. And the better fight scenes, and the better special effects, which is why more people are going to see ROTF vs GI Joe. Sorry it pisses people off, but there you go.
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Re: Six ways G.I. Joe could beat Transformers?

Postby chuckdawg1999 » Sat Aug 15, 2009 4:21 pm

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Optimus Rhyme wrote:Not exactly. Movie studios only receive roughly 55% of the total gross of a movie so as of right now with those numbers, Joe has only make just over 73 million leaving it still over a 100 million in the hole. After seeing it myself and looking at it's first weekend numbers it will probably just barely break even if that much. It has no staying power nor is it entertaining enough for repeat viewings like ROTF. And after watching both movies I'm still left wondering what that 175 million was spent on. The effects were nowhere near as nice as ROTF and it sure wasn't spent on the writers or the plot.


Don't get me wrong, I love ROTF. But I can honestly say I'd most likely choose TROC over ROTF, on almost any given day, due to time constraints. At 2.5 hours, ROTF isn't the kind of movie you can just pop in for the hell of it. That's a big chunk of time for most people, especially with day to day hustle and bustle.

TROC is about ten minutes short of two hours, and it's not as intense or draining as ROTF is.

As for staying power, I think I might have to agree. I'm not sure why audiences haven't embraced the film, because it's a great romp, but it just doesn't have the pull ROTF seems to have.


Due to time restraints? The length of time has nothing to do with a movie's re-watchability whatsoever, and proof of that is the number one box office movies of both adjusted and unadjusted times. Titanic was 3 hours, and Gone With the Wind was 4. The other big hits such as LOTR and POTC are also very long films, and were huge successes at the box office. And I am constantly popping in LOTR in my DVD. You put in awesome fight scenes, and great characters, the audience will eat it up. And despite what the critics want you to believe, but ROTF did have the better characters. And the better fight scenes, and the better special effects, which is why more people are going to see ROTF vs GI Joe. Sorry it pisses people off, but there you go.


Take this for what you will but I think it might have to do with the conscious shift to make Joe an international force.
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Re: Six ways G.I. Joe could beat Transformers?

Postby Autobot032 » Sat Aug 15, 2009 5:01 pm

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Iamwarhorse wrote:Due to time restraints? The length of time has nothing to do with a movie's re-watchability whatsoever, and proof of that is the number one box office movies of both adjusted and unadjusted times. Titanic was 3 hours, and Gone With the Wind was 4. The other big hits such as LOTR and POTC are also very long films, and were huge successes at the box office. And I am constantly popping in LOTR in my DVD.


Time does have a big factor in it. To say otherwise is silly. I have to prepare myself for an evening to watch The Dark Knight, and as such, I've not seen it in months. When I watch my movies, I like to really sink into them.

Same with Titanic. It's a terrific film, and admittedly one of the best, but it's not something I can just sit down and start watching. 3.25 hours is a looong time. That's a road trip's worth of time. For a movie.

LOTR isn't exactly a fair example. Most of the people watching it were fans and geeks (and there's nothing wrong with that, our fandom is comprised of the same) and a good portion of that audience (and the TF audience) don't have much to do during their day (and take a look around all of the TF boards, you'll see numerous posts from people stating they have no life and laugh about it.) so of course it's easy for them to spend 3-3.5 hours watching a movie whenever.

ROTF is a great film, much better than the first TF flick, but as much as I love it, it's not a film I can just sit down and spend 2.5 hours watching. It's not just the amount of time, it's the overall feel of the film. It reminds me of TDK in how taxing it can be. It's fun, but it's a lot of constant, in your face spectacle.

TROC is a fast, fun, easy going (for the most part, though it's a tad more serious and darker than ROTF, I thought) diversion that can easily fit into a lot of people's schedules.

Plus it all depends on the person. Do you like the movie enough to spare that kind of time? The first TF movie, I can't even sit all the way through anymore. I play hopscotch through most of it and just go straight to the good scenes (which takes a 2.5 hour movie and drops it down to about 35 minutes when it's all said and done).

It's partially dependent on what your mindset is, going in.

Iamwarhorse wrote:You put in awesome fight scenes, and great characters, the audience will eat it up. And despite what the critics want you to believe, but ROTF did have the better characters. And the better fight scenes, and the better special effects, which is why more people are going to see ROTF vs GI Joe. Sorry it pisses people off, but there you go.


Joe has:

-Awesome scenes.
-Great characters.

The audience isn't eating it up.

You're right that ROTF has better special effects, but I'm not sure the characters are better than what's in TROC. I'd say they're neck and neck. I found something to like about all of them, equally to the TF movies.

Part of what helped TFs make such a huge impact beyond the special effects, the wow factor of seeing them in a realistic world, was that they've never really dropped off the radar since 1984. There was a small dead zone during the early '90s, but Beast Wars revived the whole thing for a new generation, and then RID, and so on, kept it alive. Then there's the nostalgia factor, etc.

G.I. Joe, outside of the old skool fans, really hasn't had that advantage. Outside of the fandom (Joe's that is), the public doesn't really remember, or give a crap about it. For some reason, TFs made a much bigger impact on the people than Joe ever did. (And I'm a TF fan first and foremost, so for me to defend TROC is just making my head spin.)

It's a shame TROC isn't gaining more ground, it deserves it.

I still say the critics are out of their minds. They hate ROTF and call it one of the worst films ever, yet it receives an overall rating of C-
Joe is just as good, and they give it a D+, yet they don't call it one of the worst films ever.

...none of that makes sense to me. Whatsoever.

I'm glad to see the critics are wrong though. I'd love to see ROTF climb back into the top 10 again, and see G.I. Joe become a massive hit. Regardless of what the critics have to say.

Screw 'em.
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Re: Six ways G.I. Joe could beat Transformers?

Postby Joshua Vallse » Tue Aug 18, 2009 4:04 am

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Six ways Joe will beat ROTF, answer is it can't.

I thought TF2 was fun, not worth of earning the stupid amount of money it has but at least watchable from a distance with low expectations. Joe was just a trainwreck of a toy advertisement wrapped in semi-notable Star name power. And as of now has already been de-throned from the top spot by District 9.....which was awesome.

In fact anyone whose reading this go see District 9......NOW!!!! GO SEE IT! And watch out for that pig ha ha ha. You'll know what I mean when you see the film.

But Joe was bad right up to the Black Eyed Peas Club Remix playing over the end credits. I mean it was being advertised as the film made by the guy who made the Mummy....and it showed.

SPOILERS:

Look it's the Mummy! No thats Zartan silly.

Look it's the Mummies lackey! No thats Dr. Mindbender silly.

Look it's O'Connell!!! No thats Sgt. Slaughter....wait what?

Look they're in Egypt! Yeah, your right about that one.....sadly.

And the Baroness in the end. Really, really?

And Scarlet ditching Snake Eyes for....Marlon Wayans? What THE HELL!!!!

And the Flashbacks.......OH GOD THE FLASHBACKS! There wasn't even that many flashbacks in an episode of CSI or Law and Order or Cold Case or any other crime drama!

No, not even the really cool showdown between Snake Eyes and Storm Shadow could salvage all the bad, including Cobra Commanders really really really really bad mask design. A see through Gas Mask that looks as if it came from a Paintball store? Thanks there Hasbro Toy art team...thanks. Bastards.

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Re: Six ways G.I. Joe could beat Transformers?

Postby Primus C-00 » Sat Aug 29, 2009 4:28 am

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Joe Delivered - RoTF disappointed.

I went into G.I. Joe expecting cheesy camp, and what did I get? cheesy camp. I went into RotF expecting a masterful expansion of the first film weaving in new characters and elements of mythos into an already well woven tapestry...

And what did I get?

The tapestry torn to a shred by excuses for action set pieces masquerading as plot, too much focus on annoying new characters, no focus on interesting new characters or the characters we had developed a bond with after the first film, utter inversion of Prime and Megatron. Prime a relentless remorseless roid raging killing machine and Megatron the reverent apprentice.

No, no, no, no, no.

After a second view RotF is ok, but I had to semi lobotomise myself just to do that. I will probably get both on DVD but I'll buy G.I. Joe on release and wait till RotF is in the bargain bucket.
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Re: Six ways G.I. Joe could beat Transformers?

Postby Autobot032 » Sat Aug 29, 2009 4:38 am

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Primus C-00 wrote:Joe Delivered - RoTF disappointed.

I went into G.I. Joe expecting cheesy camp, and what did I get? cheesy camp. I went into RotF expecting a masterful expansion of the first film weaving in new characters and elements of mythos into an already well woven tapestry...

And what did I get?

The tapestry torn to a shred by excuses for action set pieces masquerading as plot, too much focus on annoying new characters, no focus on interesting new characters or the characters we had developed a bond with after the first film, utter inversion of Prime and Megatron. Prime a relentless remorseless roid raging killing machine and Megatron the reverent apprentice.

No, no, no, no, no.

After a second view RotF is ok, but I had to semi lobotomise myself just to do that. I will probably get both on DVD but I'll buy G.I. Joe on release and wait till RotF is in the bargain bucket.


I'm not entirely sure this post of your's is on the up and up, considering your sig. I don't care much for the first one, I'll sit through parts of it if I have to, but I dislike it enough that I won't even use lines from it.

And the bargain bucket? You have a looooong wait. The first movie still commands $13.88 for a single disc, $19.96 for a 2-Disc, and now we have ROTF coming along. That's a good long wait.

G.I. Joe is excellent, it's great fun, and a good time had by all.
ROTF is excellent, but it's taxing to watch, due to time and bombast, so repeat views aren't as easy.

TF1, a finely woven tapestry? Nay. A tattered and torn piece of cloth depicting a very boring mess.
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Re: Six ways G.I. Joe could beat Transformers?

Postby Primus C-00 » Sat Aug 29, 2009 4:55 am

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Well the first movie is about £5 now, maybe even £3 for a single disc. I'll agree with your summation of RotF regarding bombast and multiple viewings.

As per the sig? Well I liked Jetfire, just as much as I liked Alice, the kitchen bots and the Doctor.

I would elaborate but last night's sequence of double rums is doing a turn on me...

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Re: Six ways G.I. Joe could beat Transformers?

Postby Primus C-00 » Sat Aug 29, 2009 7:33 am

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I was quite tickled when I realised the M.A.R.S. cannon looked like Shockwave, but sad to see it blow up.

Oh what happened to Ryan's Cobra site?

:grin:
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Re: Six ways G.I. Joe could beat Transformers?

Postby 5150 Cruiser » Sat Aug 29, 2009 12:53 pm

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Primus C-00 wrote:Joe Delivered - RoTF disappointed.

I went into G.I. Joe expecting cheesy camp, and what did I get? cheesy camp. I went into RotF expecting a masterful expansion of the first film weaving in new characters and elements of mythos into an already well woven tapestry...

And what did I get?

The tapestry torn to a shred by excuses for action set pieces masquerading as plot, too much focus on annoying new characters, no focus on interesting new characters or the characters we had developed a bond with after the first film, utter inversion of Prime and Megatron. Prime a relentless remorseless roid raging killing machine and Megatron the reverent apprentice.

.


And so cause your a TF fan you expected ROTF to be a "Masterpiece"? You should have gone into it with the expectations of G.I. Joe. Caue TF is camp in every sence of the word just as much if not more that TF.
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Re: Six ways G.I. Joe could beat Transformers?

Postby Editor » Sat Aug 29, 2009 1:13 pm

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Primus C-00 wrote:Oh what happened to Ryan's Cobra site?

:grin:


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