Sid Burn wrote:Liege Evilmus wrote:you just assume that I wanna see more kids beat instead or reared, and not even talk to me about the reasons for my outlook...!
Than Side Burn, I am APPALLED by you, and the fact that you think you even have half a reason to look down on me.
Now whats realy APPALLING is the amout of straight forward bigotry that I read in The Jazz Factor thread. Wonder if you took a cross up there too?
dude, I really didnt require your life story, your circumstances dont change that fact that you advocate terrorizing children into obedience. Being a teacher, blood donor etc etc does not make you an authority on the subject, nor does it excuse scaring children into line, especially when those children arent even yours.
Clearly you have a big chip on your shoulder, you contributed a lot of content to this thread and nowhere did I see you advocating the type of generosity you claim to exude in your day to day life.
What I read was someone bragging about evading police. More importantly, I read someone advocating fear as a method of parenting and that is ultimately self defeating. The kids grow up Evilmus, and as they age the respect they showed often fades once they cannot be threatened into submission. What is worse, many of these kids will carry on this horrible way of parenting.
They also can grow to resent their parents once they comprehend that they were intimidated into obedience.
Control is fleeting when it is instilled by fear. You admit this yourself, you knew you were going to be punished so you stopped caring about doing right. Even in your response to me you were threatening, telling me to not 'dare' judge you on your posts. Its a message board Evilmus, what am I supposed to judge you on, your avatar? You are so quick to use threats to get what you want, I am a complete stranger to you and already you are threatening me.
In the end I was simply providing another point of view from yours, one that advocates parenting without violence or the threat of violence. I dont believe it is neccessary.
Perhaps if you reread your own posts you will see how I came to these conclusions, your opinion on the subject is quite clear.
And as a matter of fact, I took a shot at calming the racial slurs in the jazz thread, but you have to pick your battles. When no one seemed to care about the tasteless nature of the thread I let it be.
Also the name is Sid Burn, if you are going to refer to me in your posts I would appreciate it if you did so correctly.
Sid Burn wrote:I dont know how you jumped into the debate, but I dont remember you voicing these opinions against mine, or opening a dialogue at all. From your posts, you seem to be looking for an alternative to physical intimadation as a method of parenting.
You sound like Evilmus under a different username but I certainly hope for your own sake that isnt the case.
I could care less at this point how you rear your children, many of you seem so determined to defend using physical violence on kids, it boggles my mind. These posts advocate spankings, but I get a moderator warning for having an opposite opinion?
What a joke
And on a side note, dont warn me moderators, this is a message board, I should be able to exchange ideas freely, why dont you go where you are needed in the jazz thread and put a lock on all the racial slurs flying around on that end.
There is a big difference between disagreement and flaming. I never flamed anyone on this thread, I offered an opposing opinion. Without varying opinions, why the hell post at all.
This whole board is becoming too sensitive, anytime someone adamantly disagrees with someone else the moderators try to put a condom on it.
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Sid Burn wrote:
And on a side note, dont warn me moderators, this is a message board, I should be able to exchange ideas freely, why dont you go where you are needed in the jazz thread and put a lock on all the racial slurs flying around on that end.
Sid Burn wrote:And on a side note, dont warn me moderators, this is a message board, I should be able to exchange ideas freely
Ballistic90 wrote: My problem with your posts is that you are making assumptions and insinuating that if you spank your child, you are beating them horribly. You are also talking about the reasons people spank without understanding it whatsoever. If people spank their children to hurt them, then yes, it's wrong. The problem is that YOU can't make the distinction.
The Master Blaster wrote:Sid Burn. calm down and behave. It's Ryan's site, and he has given us all rules to follow. I suggest you follow them.
Malikon wrote:Sid Burn wrote:
And on a side note, dont warn me moderators, this is a message board, I should be able to exchange ideas freely, why dont you go where you are needed in the jazz thread and put a lock on all the racial slurs flying around on that end.
Yeah that thread is pretty disgusting, I read 1/2 of the first page and never looked at it again. I have 3 children that are part Black, and I have a very little bit of it myself, and that thread was horrible.
But it's nothing new, it just shows that that's the way people really think. Even while hiding under all their, "But I'm not a racist" pretenses.
Sid Burn wrote:Ballistic90 wrote: My problem with your posts is that you are making assumptions and insinuating that if you spank your child, you are beating them horribly. You are also talking about the reasons people spank without understanding it whatsoever. If people spank their children to hurt them, then yes, it's wrong. The problem is that YOU can't make the distinction.
The difference between a spanking and a beating is entirely subjective and in my opinion arbitrary, if you are not the party recieving the violence, how can you make that determination? People will do what they do, but will it be in the best interest of a child who cannot yet articulate the impact being hit has on them?
My opinion stands, there is NO reason to hit a child. Once it was considered normal to smack a woman to calm her down, but noone in their right mind would advocate that now. How is spanking a child who is completly defenseless physically, mentally and emotionally any better?
Sid Burn wrote:The Master Blaster wrote:Sid Burn. calm down and behave. It's Ryan's site, and he has given us all rules to follow. I suggest you follow them.
I will tell you again, I was never flaming, baiting or trolling, I was debating with another member of the board.
He chose to take counterpoints to his as personal attacks, that isnt my problem.
Do not presume to tell me to behave while a thread like the Jazz theory continues, if I disagree with someone, and find the subject matter worthwile then I will post whatever counter to their argument I like. People are far too sensitive, I was looking for a debate with Evilmus, instead he foams at the mouth and stops the flow of ideas with his nonsense.
I think rascist slurs should be higher on your checklist than a heated debate about child abuse. You have had people on this thread call for kicking a child in the balls over a transformer and I am the agitator? Again, the moderation here is becoming a joke, its subjective, selective and misinformed.
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Sid Burn wrote:Malikon wrote:Sid Burn wrote:
And on a side note, dont warn me moderators, this is a message board, I should be able to exchange ideas freely, why dont you go where you are needed in the jazz thread and put a lock on all the racial slurs flying around on that end.
Yeah that thread is pretty disgusting, I read 1/2 of the first page and never looked at it again. I have 3 children that are part Black, and I have a very little bit of it myself, and that thread was horrible.
But it's nothing new, it just shows that that's the way people really think. Even while hiding under all their, "But I'm not a racist" pretenses.
Exactly, and where are the moderators for that? Going on 20 pages of that tasteless nonsense.
Nujevad wrote:Some children can be disciplined with non-physical methods while others do not. I'm not saying that spanking them is the be-all, end-all cure for misbehavior but it is a valid parenting technique.
Neko wrote:Thank you Sid Burn for alerting me to that thread. It has been locked.
Sid Burn wrote:Neko wrote:Thank you Sid Burn for alerting me to that thread. It has been locked.
Not a problem, I couldnt believe it went on as long as it did.
Autobot032 wrote:To Neko and everyone else:
On the Jazz Theory thread, I admit I made some ignorant jokes, but I also apologized for it and meant it 110%. It was never my intention to hurt anyone's feelings. I was trying to go with the flow of the thread and I went a bit too far.
I'm sorry.
But am I ever going to hear the end of it? I mean what else do you guys want from me?
I'm not idiot posting porn descriptions, his posts stayed on well after the thread should've been closed.
I admit I was stupid in my actions, and there's no excuse, but am I going to have to hear about this stupid Jazz thing forever?
Wouldn't it just be easier to ask me to leave?
Malikon wrote:and to the guy posting above me. Considering your signature, you 'do' make some of the more 'interesting'? comments that I've seen. Only reason it stuck out to me though was because of your signature. The sig and the posts sure do seem to contradict each other at times.
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