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King Starscream89 wrote:Starscream totally bombed megs or at least it wouldnt surprise me if he did ...he had the perfect cover ..all the human pilots are like 'aw crap aw crap were going to die where is that thing " tduring that time Screamer could easily use the confusion to do that super high speed transformation he did adn look like a survivor to whcih they just go and bomb the hell out of megs

even with all the **** screamer was doing...those pilots would not have just **** lost track of him and went on their merry way for a bombing run....its simple reasoning.

one more thing that i would like to point out is why didnt screamers cyber bombs destroy megs...if he did join in like some of yall say a few clean shot from him like that would have killed megs....a deflected miss from him almost kill bb right from the jump....if it would have been dead on to the chest it would surely have split bb into a million parts...yet yall want to say that he hit megs with multiple rounds and all it did was nudge him back....lol

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Kudomus Prime wrote:Because we suck, our weapons suck, and our crafts definitely suck. Well, when you compare them to Cybertronian technology, that is.

Yeah, but we still took out a few D-cons.
Specifically when the humans bombed Skoponok and when Lennox blasted Blackout from below.

Cheap shot!!!
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Cheap shot, my butt!!
He totally deserved it!!!

Right in the butt!!

Deserved it? What did he ever do?
Of course thats sarcasm.

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Kudomus Prime wrote:Because we suck, our weapons suck, and our crafts definitely suck. Well, when you compare them to Cybertronian technology, that is.

Yeah, but we still took out a few D-cons.
Specifically when the humans bombed Skoponok and when Lennox blasted Blackout from below.

Cheap shot!!!
¬¬

Cheap shot, my butt!!
He totally deserved it!!!

Right in the butt!!

EXACTLY!!

Wash your hands afterwards.

Bleh...
lol

Now THAT was a nut shot!

ROFL!!!

Nooo! Not in the nut!

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King Starscream89 wrote:Starscream totally bombed megs or at least it wouldnt surprise me if he did ...he had the perfect cover ..all the human pilots are like 'aw crap aw crap were going to die where is that thing " tduring that time Screamer could easily use the confusion to do that super high speed transformation he did adn look like a survivor to whcih they just go and bomb the hell out of megs

even with all the **** screamer was doing...those pilots would not have just **** lost track of him and went on their merry way for a bombing run....its simple reasoning.

one more thing that i would like to point out is why didnt screamers cyber bombs destroy megs...if he did join in like some of yall say a few clean shot from him like that would have killed megs....a deflected miss from him almost kill bb right from the jump....if it would have been dead on to the chest it would surely have split bb into a million parts...yet yall want to say that he hit megs with multiple rounds and all it did was nudge him back....lol

Yeah. Megatron does not know the meaning of "duck" and "evasive maneuver". It's so easy to kill him with the right Cybertronian weapon.

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King Starscream89 wrote:Starscream totally bombed megs or at least it wouldnt surprise me if he did ...he had the perfect cover ..all the human pilots are like 'aw crap aw crap were going to die where is that thing " tduring that time Screamer could easily use the confusion to do that super high speed transformation he did adn look like a survivor to whcih they just go and bomb the hell out of megs

even with all the **** screamer was doing...those pilots would not have just **** lost track of him and went on their merry way for a bombing run....its simple reasoning.

one more thing that i would like to point out is why didnt screamers cyber bombs destroy megs...if he did join in like some of yall say a few clean shot from him like that would have killed megs....a deflected miss from him almost kill bb right from the jump....if it would have been dead on to the chest it would surely have split bb into a million parts...yet yall want to say that he hit megs with multiple rounds and all it did was nudge him back....lol

Yeah. Megatron does not know the meaning of "duck" and "evasive maneuver". It's so easy to kill him with the right Cybertronian weapon.

True, that. It's the ego. Yes it is.

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King Starscream89 wrote:Starscream totally bombed megs or at least it wouldnt surprise me if he did ...he had the perfect cover ..all the human pilots are like 'aw crap aw crap were going to die where is that thing " tduring that time Screamer could easily use the confusion to do that super high speed transformation he did adn look like a survivor to whcih they just go and bomb the hell out of megs

even with all the **** screamer was doing...those pilots would not have just **** lost track of him and went on their merry way for a bombing run....its simple reasoning.

one more thing that i would like to point out is why didnt screamers cyber bombs destroy megs...if he did join in like some of yall say a few clean shot from him like that would have killed megs....a deflected miss from him almost kill bb right from the jump....if it would have been dead on to the chest it would surely have split bb into a million parts...yet yall want to say that he hit megs with multiple rounds and all it did was nudge him back....lol

Yeah. Megatron does not know the meaning of "duck" and "evasive maneuver". It's so easy to kill him with the right Cybertronian weapon.

True, that. It's the ego. Yes it is.

N If Prime took a shot from Megs to the chest and continued fighting, why wouldn't Megs be able to take a shot from Starscream and continue fighting?

Both were pushed back, and Megs seemed all together like he would dominate a clean fight with Prime. if Megs was taking everything from prime, the humans and perhaps Starscream... makes you wonder what would have happend if he did evade and duck...

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King Starscream89 wrote:Starscream totally bombed megs or at least it wouldnt surprise me if he did ...he had the perfect cover ..all the human pilots are like 'aw crap aw crap were going to die where is that thing " tduring that time Screamer could easily use the confusion to do that super high speed transformation he did adn look like a survivor to whcih they just go and bomb the hell out of megs

even with all the **** screamer was doing...those pilots would not have just **** lost track of him and went on their merry way for a bombing run....its simple reasoning.

one more thing that i would like to point out is why didnt screamers cyber bombs destroy megs...if he did join in like some of yall say a few clean shot from him like that would have killed megs....a deflected miss from him almost kill bb right from the jump....if it would have been dead on to the chest it would surely have split bb into a million parts...yet yall want to say that he hit megs with multiple rounds and all it did was nudge him back....lol

Yeah. Megatron does not know the meaning of "duck" and "evasive maneuver". It's so easy to kill him with the right Cybertronian weapon.

True, that. It's the ego. Yes it is.

Which makes you wonder how the hell did he become a leader.

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King Starscream89 wrote:Starscream totally bombed megs or at least it wouldnt surprise me if he did ...he had the perfect cover ..all the human pilots are like 'aw crap aw crap were going to die where is that thing " tduring that time Screamer could easily use the confusion to do that super high speed transformation he did adn look like a survivor to whcih they just go and bomb the hell out of megs

even with all the **** screamer was doing...those pilots would not have just **** lost track of him and went on their merry way for a bombing run....its simple reasoning.

one more thing that i would like to point out is why didnt screamers cyber bombs destroy megs...if he did join in like some of yall say a few clean shot from him like that would have killed megs....a deflected miss from him almost kill bb right from the jump....if it would have been dead on to the chest it would surely have split bb into a million parts...yet yall want to say that he hit megs with multiple rounds and all it did was nudge him back....lol

Yeah. Megatron does not know the meaning of "duck" and "evasive maneuver". It's so easy to kill him with the right Cybertronian weapon.

True, that. It's the ego. Yes it is.

Which makes you wonder how the hell did he become a leader.

By being able to beat the crap out of anyone who tried to challenge him?

Alex Kingdom wrote:If Starscream did bomb Megatron them Michael Bay takes the crown as worst director ever as it was not alluded to in any way whatsoever. More than likely this is just a fan-wank theory that if you bang on about it long and loud enough Mickey B will steal and claim it was his idea all along.

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I concur. There was nothing that indicated Starscream attacked Megatron. I don't even really recall anything in the film that painted Starscream as a treacherous fellow, anyway. Megatron said Starscream had failed him but that indicates incompetence, not disloyalty.

so I was analyzing that part with where starscream starts to pick off the jets. It appears that there may be some truth in this theory. before the air battle, there are 8 jets including starscream. Starscream takes out 4, leaving 3 left plus himself. It appears that all 4 jets fire at megatron. Maybe michael bay planned it?

frgtn340 wrote:so I was analyzing that part with where starscream starts to pick off the jets. It appears that there may be some truth in this theory. before the air battle, there are 8 jets including starscream. Starscream takes out 4, leaving 3 left plus himself. It appears that all 4 jets fire at megatron. Maybe michael bay planned it?

Might be something to it; if the USAF flew in 8 jet squadrons which they don't.

There were 24 jets (at the least) called in to the battle (two squadrons) by the way after the second squadron is ambushed by Starscream you can see at least five jets still chasing him.

what a douche

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King Starscream89 wrote:Starscream totally bombed megs or at least it wouldnt surprise me if he did ...he had the perfect cover ..all the human pilots are like 'aw crap aw crap were going to die where is that thing " tduring that time Screamer could easily use the confusion to do that super high speed transformation he did adn look like a survivor to whcih they just go and bomb the hell out of megs

even with all the **** screamer was doing...those pilots would not have just **** lost track of him and went on their merry way for a bombing run....its simple reasoning.

one more thing that i would like to point out is why didnt screamers cyber bombs destroy megs...if he did join in like some of yall say a few clean shot from him like that would have killed megs....a deflected miss from him almost kill bb right from the jump....if it would have been dead on to the chest it would surely have split bb into a million parts...yet yall want to say that he hit megs with multiple rounds and all it did was nudge him back....lol

Yeah. Megatron does not know the meaning of "duck" and "evasive maneuver". It's so easy to kill him with the right Cybertronian weapon.

True, that. It's the ego. Yes it is.

Which makes you wonder how the hell did he become a leader.

By being able to beat the crap out of anyone who tried to challenge him?

One-on-one, yes. Megatron is powerful. But super dumb. So give it a few bots or human war machines against him, with enough ammunition, Megatron is surely DEAD!

Honestly, it doesnt matter.
Fact is Megatron managed to get killed off in the FIRST movie.

True. That's rather poor show, actually.

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frgtn340 wrote:so I was analyzing that part with where starscream starts to pick off the jets. It appears that there may be some truth in this theory. before the air battle, there are 8 jets including starscream. Starscream takes out 4, leaving 3 left plus himself. It appears that all 4 jets fire at megatron. Maybe michael bay planned it?

Might be something to it; if the USAF flew in 8 jet squadrons which they don't.

There were 24 jets (at the least) called in to the battle (two squadrons) by the way after the second squadron is ambushed by Starscream you can see at least five jets still chasing him.

god i wish people would listen to reason about this starscream bs....he didnt do anything but strike first and get chased..

It was hard to tell how many jets were actually firing at megs with Bay's hyperactive camera work. The fact remains there was nothing actually in the movie to indicate that starscream blasted megs there. Like someone else said, they movie didn't really establish starscream as trying to betray megs. Just that he was a somewhat incompentent henchman who knew when to cut and run. Which was part of his character from G1 so who knows. As far as the human weaponry not being able to do that damage, well, the human military was far from useless in this movie overall. I mean yeah, without the autobots the humans wouldn't have had a chance, but they were useful in support mode. I mean the jets didn't destory megs afterall, who was busy fighting optimus when they surprised him basically. And sam and the allspark is what actually finished him off.

I won't deny that bay would have zero issue working it in to the sequel that starscream blasted megs. But as to if it was his orginal intent or not, don't know about that.

Leonardo wrote:True. That's rather poor show, actually.

I think series have more develoment potential than movies. Movies go for 2 hours. A series goes on for 50 episodes or more, way longer than 2 hours. Hence character development is a lot stronger.

That's absolutely true. That's why (and this is off-topic somewhat) I think Transformers works best as a comic book series and, potentially, as a cartoon (though the cartoons aren't executed that well, in my opinion). Transformers can be such an epic tale that an episodic narrative works rather well as opposed to movies which, unless the film franchise runs into numerous sequels, will be rather brief.

P.S. Is anyone else having technical issues with this thread? I can't view Page 3 when I click on it and Page 2 won't load the bottom section. I can only view what's being said by clicking on Page 1 then hitting "Post Reply", which is why I can't even edit my last post!

Imagine a live-action Transformers TV series with realistic CGI graphics.

Auto Bot wrote:Imagine a live-action Transformers TV series with realistic CGI graphics.

To be quite honest I'd rather see a high quality grown up animated show than live action. IMO Transformers just lends itself far better to comics and animation than it does life action. As a rule comics, cartoon and video games all transfer quite will between those three formats, live action hardly ever works well. Plus live action TV series always end up being about relationships and feelings, just look at smallville! Yuck!

Yours AK

The Fallen. wrote:Honestly, it doesnt matter.
Fact is Megatron managed to get killed off in the FIRST movie.

Yea but they could bring him back as Galvatron.

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The Fallen. wrote:Honestly, it doesnt matter.
Fact is Megatron managed to get killed off in the FIRST movie.

Yea but they could bring him back as Galvatron.

Or as Megatron with new alt mode.

New toys to sell!

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The Fallen. wrote:Honestly, it doesnt matter.
Fact is Megatron managed to get killed off in the FIRST movie.

Yea but they could bring him back as Galvatron.

Or as Megatron with new alt mode.

New toys to sell!

Or as Megatron with new colours!!