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Yeah, wave 5 is the hard one to find. Wave 6 was easy to find at Walmart.

But of course Misfire is my favorite so as usual I get boned. If Misfire was in wave 1 then wave 1 would have been impossible to find.

The only one I found from wave 6 was Slugslinger. I couldn't find Overlord or Misfire. Heck, even on Amazon I don't remember Misfire being under $25

Bounti76 wrote:

The_Bob81 wrote:Wave 6 found at Ross but wave 5 never sighted within 60 miles of me at any store

I never saw Wave 5 anywhere at all except online.

Yeah I never saw anything passed wave 4 and I have 8 Walmart’s and 7 Targets and 2 toysrus around me. Ended up just going online for the rest except Windblade and just got the Legends version this week. Gotta say I’m pretty impressed with her.

Bounti76 wrote:

The_Bob81 wrote:Wave 6 found at Ross but wave 5 never sighted within 60 miles of me at any store

I never saw Wave 5 anywhere at all except online.

me 2
& im an avid hunter.

So if wave 5 never hit stores & they're not even hitting Ross, WHERE THE HELL DID THEY ALL GO???

BATTLEMASTER IIC wrote:The only one I found from wave 6 was Slugslinger. I couldn't find Overlord or Misfire. Heck, even on Amazon I don't remember Misfire being under $25

I got my 2 Misfires off Amazon for $19.99 each when they were first released. I bought the 2nd for a custom & to get free shipping.

Aimless Misfire wrote:So if wave 5 never hit stores & they're not even hitting Ross, WHERE THE HELL DID THEY ALL GO???

Purchased by scalpers from online sites like TFSource & BBTS, and now found on eBay and Amazon for ridiculous prices.

o.supreme wrote:

Aimless Misfire wrote:So if wave 5 never hit stores & they're not even hitting Ross, WHERE THE HELL DID THEY ALL GO???

Purchased by scalpers from online sites like TFSource & BBTS, and now found on eBay and Amazon for ridiculous prices.

Ok, say places like TFSource & BBTS ordered the usual amount they do for every wave. But places like Walmart & Toys R Us didn't order any. Does that mean Hasbro didn't produce as much of that wave? Or does it mean all the cases that Walmart & Toys R Us would normally get are still out there somewhere?

How does distribution work when a huge store like Walmart totally skips over a wave?

I'm inclined to think there was just way less produced in this wave. Apparently a few Targets & Walmarts in the U.S. did get them if the sightings section is accurate, but they were few and far between. In other places such as Canada and Asian markets, these items were not in short supply, so either they produced more for those markets, or yes, there are a ton of figures just sitting in a warehouse somewhere. If that were the case though, one would think they would have shown up at Ross/TJMaxx and the like a while ago. Of course the same thing happened with Kre-o. I had to really hunt for the last few Kreon Transformers figs. I even called Hasbro customer service to ask why these toys were being sold in Canada, Brazil, and Asian markets and NOT in the United States, and nobody could give a definitive answer.

Aimless Misfire wrote:

o.supreme wrote:

Aimless Misfire wrote:So if wave 5 never hit stores & they're not even hitting Ross, WHERE THE HELL DID THEY ALL GO???

Purchased by scalpers from online sites like TFSource & BBTS, and now found on eBay and Amazon for ridiculous prices.

Ok, say places like TFSource & BBTS ordered the usual amount they do for every wave. But places like Walmart & Toys R Us didn't order any. Does that mean Hasbro didn't produce as much of that wave? Or does it mean all the cases that Walmart & Toys R Us would normally get are still out there somewhere?

How does distribution work when a huge store like Walmart totally skips over a wave?

That’s not how it works. I work in retail and deal with Walmart’s and targets and such. A lot of times stores don’t order certain franchises when they’re sitting heavy on other franchises. If a store is sitting on pallets and pallets of nerf guns they won’t order other stuff still their backstock is gone no matter how empty transformers are or something else.

Now with Star Wars back in full force and marvel having a movie out every fall spring and summer they’re sitting on tons of that. Star Wars especially. I had a Walmart I had as an account and I heard them say flat “don’t order anymore toys until we burn through our nerf and Star Wars backstock.

Late waves like wave 6 end up in discount stores because they sit in Hasbro a warehouse and they dump them off on Ross and TJ maxx and marshals at cost just to get rid of them or they do big sales on the Hasbro store.

Randomhero wrote:That’s not how it works. I work in retail and deal with Walmart’s and targets and such. A lot of times stores don’t order certain franchises when they’re sitting heavy on other franchises. If a store is sitting on pallets and pallets of nerf guns they won’t order other stuff still their backstock is gone no matter how empty transformers are or something else.

Now with Star Wars back in full force and marvel having a movie out every fall spring and summer they’re sitting on tons of that. Star Wars especially. I had a Walmart I had as an account and I heard them say flat “don’t order anymore toys until we burn through our nerf and Star Wars backstock.

Late waves like wave 6 end up in discount stores because they sit in Hasbro a warehouse and they dump them off on Ross and TJ maxx and marshals at cost just to get rid of them or they do big sales on the Hasbro store.

I appreciate that insight. What this tells me is that Hasbro needs to get more involved in, or improve, the distribution of its toys. Maybe it needs to rethink everything, but something has to give. It is a major problem if there are products that its customers want, and Hasbro can't deliver that product because it's sitting in a warehouse. That just shouldn't happen. And with TRU going out of business, now is a great time for Hasbro to rethink through its strategy and figure out how to best get its products into the hands of its paying customers.

I'm sure the solution is much more complicated than anything I can come up with, but a great start would be to revamp its online store. It should make everything it sells available online, and you should be able to tell if something is in stock without clicking into the product page, for starters. I'm sure there are a ton of other suggestions we can easily come up with for the site.

I believe that is part of why Hasbro is rebranding Transformers and many of its other brands presumably *every year*. Instead of a particular line such as CW or TR that lasts 18 months-2 years, they will be rebranding every year. Presumably the toys may not change that much (The beginning of the next line may have toys intended for PotP...) we can only hope. Still, one would think, even if walmart decided to hold off on purchasing any toys, Hasbro still would have produced them...we did not see them at discount, so where'd they all go? is still a valid question...unless truly they did not produce as many for TR deluxe wave 5

nycPrime wrote:

Randomhero wrote:That’s not how it works. I work in retail and deal with Walmart’s and targets and such. A lot of times stores don’t order certain franchises when they’re sitting heavy on other franchises. If a store is sitting on pallets and pallets of nerf guns they won’t order other stuff still their backstock is gone no matter how empty transformers are or something else.

Now with Star Wars back in full force and marvel having a movie out every fall spring and summer they’re sitting on tons of that. Star Wars especially. I had a Walmart I had as an account and I heard them say flat “don’t order anymore toys until we burn through our nerf and Star Wars backstock.

Late waves like wave 6 end up in discount stores because they sit in Hasbro a warehouse and they dump them off on Ross and TJ maxx and marshals at cost just to get rid of them or they do big sales on the Hasbro store.

I appreciate that insight. What this tells me is that Hasbro needs to get more involved in, or improve, the distribution of its toys. Maybe it needs to rethink everything, but something has to give. It is a major problem if there are products that its customers want, and Hasbro can't deliver that product because it's sitting in a warehouse. That just shouldn't happen. And with TRU going out of business, now is a great time for Hasbro to rethink through its strategy and figure out how to best get its products into the hands of its paying customers.

I'm sure the solution is much more complicated than anything I can come up with, but a great start would be to revamp its online store. It should make everything it sells available online, and you should be able to tell if something is in stock without clicking into the product page, for starters. I'm sure there are a ton of other suggestions we can easily come up with for the site.

Well they can’t. Just like with my company places like Walmart’s targets and all they are their customers and they deserve to be treated as such and in the end Hasbro makes most of that stuff so it’s not like they’re hurting when a store has a warehouse of Star Wars and marvel toys because people want that more than transformers. That’s just fact

Good thing the closest Ross to me is 219 miles away.

Etseterrestrial wrote:Good thing the closest Ross to me is 219 miles away.

The Ross where I am never has anything, don't feel bad. The only time I saw anything was a single g2 boxset for menasor.

Amazon.com has POTP Rippersnapper for only $16.99 right now. This looks like one of the first of the Wave 2 figures I've seen on there not being sold by scalpers:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B072MZ21 ... ref=plSrch

Relic0037 wrote:Amazon.com has POTP Rippersnapper for only $16.99 right now. This looks like one of the first of the Wave 2 figures I've seen on there not being sold by scalpers:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B072MZ21 ... ref=plSrch

Nah all of wave 2 was available earlier in the week. I only ordered the Dinobots, and it's arriving on Monday.

So let me help with something. I used to be an Operations Manager for a big box retail chain. Most stores, have the wave in a system by its SKU. The SKU is usually keyed to auto replenish when stock hits 1.

Lets use POWER OF THE PRIMES Starscream as an example: Most of us thinks the figure sucks...the store gets the initial shelf stock an a refill usually. So we now have 6 Starscreams sitting on a shelf because everyone wanted Grimlock. We have to wait until there is 1 left for it to trigger the auto order of the new wave. Then we get all the Elita’s and Hungrrs everyone wants, and we clean the shelf fast. Usually an auto order system will see a trend and order more stock. So say wave 3 is Starscream and Hungrrrr...well now we as collectors are all stocked on what we want... so wave 3 sits on the shelf...we miss wave 4 because 3 is on the shelf, we get wave 5 because someone took pity and bought the Starscreams and Hungrrs left over. So once you see this pattern you will see when you need to go online and order. Stores care about peg space and looking full, they don’t care about wave or assortments.


Also those people who buy a figure and switch them, or the returns also clog those systems. Returns are usually sent back once, maybe twice a month. They are in most inventory systems as a 1...which keeps new waves from showing up and an empty space on a shelf as well. Takes around 3 weeks for a return to clear an inventory system and another 2 weeks for it to restock a shelf.

AND NOW YOU KNOW......

Thanks for that. So what I'm saying is this isn't a sustainable model. Something has got to change or Amazon is going to knock them all out of business. I'm exaggerating (a little).

nycPrime wrote:

Relic0037 wrote:Amazon.com has POTP Rippersnapper for only $16.99 right now. This looks like one of the first of the Wave 2 figures I've seen on there not being sold by scalpers:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B072MZ21 ... ref=plSrch

Nah all of wave 2 was available earlier in the week. I only ordered the Dinobots, and it's arriving on Monday.

They must be starting to restock then. Seems like if you don't catch it at the right time, all you see is the offerings with the prices jacked up.

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Hey everyone! Before this turns into another long marginally off topic rant on how, "I hate HTS", please consider the useful nature of this thread, and possibly contemplate starting a new thread where your hatred, contempt and bad luck/timing with HTS can be discussed and vented.

Thanks!
The Management


P.S. Good hunting, and happy savings!

Cobotron wrote:Hey everyone! Before this turns into another long marginally off topic rant on how, "I hate HTS", please consider the useful nature of this thread, and possibly contemplate starting a new thread where your hatred, contempt and bad luck/timing with HTS can be discussed and vented.

Thanks!
The Management


P.S. Good hunting, and happy savings!

And in said thread, I'd like to see some constructive criticism mixed in with the venting. Along with people's proposed solution ideas.

Any one else think its kinda funny how no one is posting here, might it have something to do with the previous 2 posts????? We can still joke in this thread right or has that been outlawed here too?

Megatron Wolf wrote:Any one else think its kinda funny how no one is posting here, might it have something to do with the previous 2 posts????? We can still joke in this thread right or has that been outlawed here too?

Power hungry mods make me less inclined to post anything. I'm trying to find the upside to hts sales, but without anything in stock that I want it's not exactly enjoyable to talk about this. Hopefully the store restocks soon.

The irony of having a St. Patrick's Day Sale when you don't ship to Ireland