Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
shajaki wrote:No, I really don't think so. I sure didn't, nor did it even cross my mind.Dead Metal wrote:Do children know what Optimus Prime means? Or Omega Supreme? And why they have those names?
shajaki wrote:I said personally, so I'm going with my own experience here. All I had was the cartoon growing up.Dead Metal wrote:And going by the cartoon is a pretty bad example, I mean did Prowl's character come across in the cartoon? The only time he was more than just a background character was when Chip Chase had to take control over him.
shajaki wrote:These? Yes. Super easy for a child to relate the name to the characteristics.Dead Metal wrote:Smokescreen created smokescreens.
Prowl was a police officer.
Skywarp flew and could teleport.
Thundercracker had his sonic booms.
Jazz was cool and loved music.
shajaki wrote:These? Not so much.Dead Metal wrote:Optimus Prime was the best of the Autobots and the leader.
Omega Supreme was the Autobots last line of defense.
Starscream was the best flyer.
shajaki wrote:IF they read the character description AND knew what "bluestreak" meant.Dead Metal wrote:Bluestreak talked a lot, it's even in his character description, so yes if children read his character description they would get his name.
As we've already established with Optimus and Omega, children don't have to understand the name. Even if they never read his bio, and all they had to go on was the cartoon. Why would they assume he's called Bluestreak because of his colour? Especially since the only way they know him is as a silver robot and car?shajaki wrote:I believe you if you say so, but I don't recall anything to that effect (and I watched me a LOT of G1 season 1).Dead Metal wrote:Plus, the cartoon actually did reference his personality, with characters telling him to shut up.
I could be wrong, been a while since I've seen G1, and as I said, most of these guys are nothing but background characters to me, heck, I still have double takes whenever someone mentions some obscure Autobot being in the show. ("Wind who?")shajaki wrote:I'd like to reiterate though, I'm not trying to spark a war DM. I'm trying to back up my opinions, but they're just my opinions
Jeep! wrote:Why do I imagine Dead Metal sounding exactly like Arnie?
Intah-wib-buls?
Blurrz wrote:10/10
Leave it to Dead Metal to have the word 'Pronz' in his signature.
I wasn't saying they have these names for no reason. Just that the reasoning may be simpler than his literal translation, since it doesn't fit any iteration of the character that I've seen. They might have planned him to be blue at some point since there's TF catalogs depicting him as such. Unless....Dead Metal wrote:Proves my point, just because their names are too complicated for a child to actually get them, doesn't negate why they have them. Or that children absolutely had to understand the names.
Fine. The people who made his bio say his name is to be taken literally, then maybe make that your opening argument next time.Dead Metal wrote:The naming was made obvious in interviews way after the fact. And from that, Bluestreak got his name due to his personality, not because of a deco that was never used for him.
Don't ask me. I didn't name a silver robot Bluestreak. I think it's pretty dumb to have a color specifically part of a characters name (for a children's toy/cartoon no less) and NOT make him that color. Change the deco or change the name.Dead Metal wrote:As we've already established with Optimus and Omega, children don't have to understand the name. Even if they never read his bio, and all they had to go on was the cartoon. Why would they assume he's called Bluestreak because of his color? Especially since the only way they know him is as a silver robot and car?
Why? I think I'm right/justified, but I don't know 100%. If I stated everything I thought as fact, I'd be a jackass.Dead Metal wrote:The "My Opinion" thing, I hate it. It's not even a real defense that makes sense. "Well, in my opinion people don't actually die when shot in the head." Doesn't negate the fact that it's wrong.
shajaki wrote:I wasn't saying they have these names for no reason. Just that the reasoning may be simpler than his literal translation, since it doesn't fit any iteration of the character that I've seen. They might have planned him to be blue at some point since there's TF catalogs depicting him as such. Unless....Dead Metal wrote:Proves my point, just because their names are too complicated for a child to actually get them, doesn't negate why they have them. Or that children absolutely had to understand the names.Fine. The people who made his bio say his name is to be taken literally, then maybe make that your opening argument next time.Dead Metal wrote:The naming was made obvious in interviews way after the fact. And from that, Bluestreak got his name due to his personality, not because of a deco that was never used for him.
But since it's (as you say) years after the fact, maybe they're just trying to cover their asses?Don't ask me. I didn't name a silver robot Bluestreak. I think it's pretty dumb to have a color specifically part of a characters name (for a children's toy/cartoon no less) and NOT make him that color. Change the deco or change the name.Dead Metal wrote:As we've already established with Optimus and Omega, children don't have to understand the name. Even if they never read his bio, and all they had to go on was the cartoon. Why would they assume he's called Bluestreak because of his color? Especially since the only way they know him is as a silver robot and car?Why? I think I'm right/justified, but I don't know 100%. If I stated everything I thought as fact, I'd be a jackass.Dead Metal wrote:The "My Opinion" thing, I hate it. It's not even a real defense that makes sense. "Well, in my opinion people don't actually die when shot in the head." Doesn't negate the fact that it's wrong.
And with that, I'm done. I really actually don't care to continue arguing about something so trivial.
Jeep! wrote:Why do I imagine Dead Metal sounding exactly like Arnie?
Intah-wib-buls?
Blurrz wrote:10/10
Leave it to Dead Metal to have the word 'Pronz' in his signature.
No worries, s'all goodDead Metal wrote:I apologize, I came across like an ass.
Sabrblade wrote:I concur in also not remembering the cartoon having Bluestreak talk too much or being told to shut up.
Cobotron wrote:18S. I waited to see if they would do Silverstreak because I wanted the one that looked like the toy I had/still have. I'm glad I did. Never thought I would double dip like this, but that Diaclone look is sweet. He'll display with my Micromans for historical accuracy. The scale actually almost works.shajaki wrote:Ain't no one gonna argue with thatCobotron wrote:MaaaaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAN! I held out for Silverstreak. Now they go and pull this?!?
That thing is GORGEOUS!
Edit: Carn swaggart, Rickin Frickin Rackin Frackin... PRE-ORDERED!
Thats the best Deco I have ever seen on my most favorite TF EVER!
I'm so happy that it makes me MAD!
(Hey shajaki, that answers your "next big ticket item I'm gunnin' for" question)
But hold up... is the MP Streak in you collection the "anime" Bluestreak or the 18S Silverstreak?
sol magnus wrote:Cobotron wrote:18S. I waited to see if they would do Silverstreak because I wanted the one that looked like the toy I had/still have. I'm glad I did. Never thought I would double dip like this, but that Diaclone look is sweet. He'll display with my Micromans for historical accuracy. The scale actually almost works.shajaki wrote:Ain't no one gonna argue with thatCobotron wrote:MaaaaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAN! I held out for Silverstreak. Now they go and pull this?!?
That thing is GORGEOUS!
Edit: Carn swaggart, Rickin Frickin Rackin Frackin... PRE-ORDERED!
Thats the best Deco I have ever seen on my most favorite TF EVER!
I'm so happy that it makes me MAD!
(Hey shajaki, that answers your "next big ticket item I'm gunnin' for" question)
But hold up... is the MP Streak in you collection the "anime" Bluestreak or the 18S Silverstreak?
Same same on the reasons for double-dipping. I also skipped MP-18 for MP-18s for the same reason. I only wish they put MP-18's face in the MP-17/18B Helmet since they are separate parts. THAT would have made it perfectly box accurate. Either way, I'm getting it. It'll be displayed separately of my "main" MP collection.
Burn wrote:Agamemnon wrote:Let's get back to talking about Burn's mammoth snout flopping...
Well I am Australian. It's kinda what we're known for.
Cobotron wrote:sol magnus wrote:Cobotron wrote:18S. I waited to see if they would do Silverstreak because I wanted the one that looked like the toy I had/still have. I'm glad I did. Never thought I would double dip like this, but that Diaclone look is sweet. He'll display with my Micromans for historical accuracy. The scale actually almost works.shajaki wrote:Ain't no one gonna argue with thatCobotron wrote:MaaaaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAN! I held out for Silverstreak. Now they go and pull this?!?
That thing is GORGEOUS!
Edit: Carn swaggart, Rickin Frickin Rackin Frackin... PRE-ORDERED!
Thats the best Deco I have ever seen on my most favorite TF EVER!
I'm so happy that it makes me MAD!
(Hey shajaki, that answers your "next big ticket item I'm gunnin' for" question)
But hold up... is the MP Streak in you collection the "anime" Bluestreak or the 18S Silverstreak?
Same same on the reasons for double-dipping. I also skipped MP-18 for MP-18s for the same reason. I only wish they put MP-18's face in the MP-17/18B Helmet since they are separate parts. THAT would have made it perfectly box accurate. Either way, I'm getting it. It'll be displayed separately of my "main" MP collection.
I hear you on the head sculpt. 18's is perfectly Takaratastic and toy accurate. I didn't even notice at first. I don't have Prowl, so the more I've thought about it the more I'm glad he'll have something different than 18s other than just paint.
Gives me one more reason not to get Prowl.
Prowl! Always stealin' the spot light from Bluestreak.
18B is a beauty to behold though, isn't he?
I'm waiting for the Hasbro Bluestreak too, but man it's hard not to just order MP18 and MP18s AND pre-order MP18B if I still can. I also love the Datsun, and I'm glad I have Prowl to represent it currentlysol magnus wrote:He is, but I cannot agree on Prowl. He's always been my boy, way back to 84. Of course, Bluestreak was right up there with them, because I loved, loved, loved the Datsun 280ZX. I'll probably buy an MP-18 when the Hasbro one hits, although I don't know what I'm going to do with it.Cobotron wrote:I hear you on the head sculpt. 18's is perfectly Takaratastic and toy accurate. I didn't even notice at first. I don't have Prowl, so the more I've thought about it the more I'm glad he'll have something different than 18s other than just paint.sol magnus wrote:Same same on the reasons for double-dipping. I also skipped MP-18 for MP-18s for the same reason. I only wish they put MP-18's face in the MP-17/18B Helmet since they are separate parts. THAT would have made it perfectly box accurate. Either way, I'm getting it. It'll be displayed separately of my "main" MP collection.Cobotron wrote:18S. I waited to see if they would do Silverstreak because I wanted the one that looked like the toy I had/still have. I'm glad I did. Never thought I would double dip like this, but that Diaclone look is sweet. He'll display with my Micromans for historical accuracy. The scale actually almost works.shajaki wrote:Ain't no one gonna argue with thatCobotron wrote:MaaaaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAN! I held out for Silverstreak. Now they go and pull this?!?
That thing is GORGEOUS!
Edit: Carn swaggart, Rickin Frickin Rackin Frackin... PRE-ORDERED!
Thats the best Deco I have ever seen on my most favorite TF EVER!
I'm so happy that it makes me MAD!
(Hey shajaki, that answers your "next big ticket item I'm gunnin' for" question)
But hold up... is the MP Streak in you collection the "anime" Bluestreak or the 18S Silverstreak?
Gives me one more reason not to get Prowl.
Prowl! Always stealin' the spot light from Bluestreak.
18B is a beauty to behold though, isn't he?
Just my opinion, but everyone should have at least one version of the Datsun mold in their collection. To me he is the quintessential Autobot. I mean who's face is this anyway, ?itscramtastic wrote:I'm waiting for the Hasbro Bluestreak too, but man it's hard not to just order MP18 and MP18s AND pre-order MP18B if I still can. I also love the Datsun, and I'm glad I have Prowl to represent it currentlysol magnus wrote:He is, but I cannot agree on Prowl. He's always been my boy, way back to 84. Of course, Bluestreak was right up there with them, because I loved, loved, loved the Datsun 280ZX. I'll probably buy an MP-18 when the Hasbro one hits, although I don't know what I'm going to do with it.Cobotron wrote:I hear you on the head sculpt. 18's is perfectly Takaratastic and toy accurate. I didn't even notice at first. I don't have Prowl, so the more I've thought about it the more I'm glad he'll have something different than 18s other than just paint.sol magnus wrote:Same same on the reasons for double-dipping. I also skipped MP-18 for MP-18s for the same reason. I only wish they put MP-18's face in the MP-17/18B Helmet since they are separate parts. THAT would have made it perfectly box accurate. Either way, I'm getting it. It'll be displayed separately of my "main" MP collection.Cobotron wrote:18S. I waited to see if they would do Silverstreak because I wanted the one that looked like the toy I had/still have. I'm glad I did. Never thought I would double dip like this, but that Diaclone look is sweet. He'll display with my Micromans for historical accuracy. The scale actually almost works.shajaki wrote:Ain't no one gonna argue with thatCobotron wrote:MaaaaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAN! I held out for Silverstreak. Now they go and pull this?!?
That thing is GORGEOUS!
Edit: Carn swaggart, Rickin Frickin Rackin Frackin... PRE-ORDERED!
Thats the best Deco I have ever seen on my most favorite TF EVER!
I'm so happy that it makes me MAD!
(Hey shajaki, that answers your "next big ticket item I'm gunnin' for" question)
But hold up... is the MP Streak in you collection the "anime" Bluestreak or the 18S Silverstreak?
Gives me one more reason not to get Prowl.
Prowl! Always stealin' the spot light from Bluestreak.
18B is a beauty to behold though, isn't he?
Burn wrote:Agamemnon wrote:Let's get back to talking about Burn's mammoth snout flopping...
Well I am Australian. It's kinda what we're known for.
FO' REAL!Cobotron wrote:Just my opinion, but everyone should have at least one version of the Datsun mold in their collection. To me he is the quintessential Autobot. I mean who's face is this anyway, ?itscramtastic wrote:I'm waiting for the Hasbro Bluestreak too, but man it's hard not to just order MP18 and MP18s AND pre-order MP18B if I still can. I also love the Datsun, and I'm glad I have Prowl to represent it currentlysol magnus wrote:He is, but I cannot agree on Prowl. He's always been my boy, way back to 84. Of course, Bluestreak was right up there with them, because I loved, loved, loved the Datsun 280ZX. I'll probably buy an MP-18 when the Hasbro one hits, although I don't know what I'm going to do with it.Cobotron wrote:I hear you on the head sculpt. 18's is perfectly Takaratastic and toy accurate. I didn't even notice at first. I don't have Prowl, so the more I've thought about it the more I'm glad he'll have something different than 18s other than just paint.sol magnus wrote:Same same on the reasons for double-dipping. I also skipped MP-18 for MP-18s for the same reason. I only wish they put MP-18's face in the MP-17/18B Helmet since they are separate parts. THAT would have made it perfectly box accurate. Either way, I'm getting it. It'll be displayed separately of my "main" MP collection.Cobotron wrote:18S. I waited to see if they would do Silverstreak because I wanted the one that looked like the toy I had/still have. I'm glad I did. Never thought I would double dip like this, but that Diaclone look is sweet. He'll display with my Micromans for historical accuracy. The scale actually almost works.shajaki wrote:Ain't no one gonna argue with thatCobotron wrote:MaaaaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAN! I held out for Silverstreak. Now they go and pull this?!?
That thing is GORGEOUS!
Edit: Carn swaggart, Rickin Frickin Rackin Frackin... PRE-ORDERED!
Thats the best Deco I have ever seen on my most favorite TF EVER!
I'm so happy that it makes me MAD!
(Hey shajaki, that answers your "next big ticket item I'm gunnin' for" question)
But hold up... is the MP Streak in you collection the "anime" Bluestreak or the 18S Silverstreak?
Gives me one more reason not to get Prowl.
Prowl! Always stealin' the spot light from Bluestreak.
18B is a beauty to behold though, isn't he?
Some new info emailed to me from Hasbro Australia. (thankyou to them of course )
We know that the imported Lost Age Stinger toy is supposed to be in ToysRUs stores this month, but two other toys have now been confirmed for release here within the next couple weeks, as they have recently arrived at the Hasbro Australia warehouse and are on their way to the TRU warehouse.
TakaraTomy MP-24 Starsaber - the next of the HK imports.
Hasbro MP-06 Bluestreak - the first of the three known American Masterpiece toys for 2015. (the other two being Sideswipe and Starscream)
It also is the first official confirmation of the MP number for Hasbro's Bluestreak.
Starsaber was something we've been expecting here for a little while, and it has been noted by Hasbro that the October release date at ToysRUs is an error in their system, as Hasbro are not intending to sit on this stock for 6 months now that it is in the country.
It was also noted that the "Sunstreak" was meant to be the Hasbro Bluestreak... but somehow ToysRUS got the name, the MP number, AND the date wrong.
Although, to be fair to TRU... their release date of May 16th is close enough of an estimated release date, to the "next couple of weeks" estimate from Hasbro.
(I asked Hasbro Australia about both, just to clarify the confusion that TRU had caused us.)
For anyone wondering, the Hasbro version of Bluestreak looks to be the same grey/black colours of the Japanese version, in the standard (big) Hasbro red box.
I just want to say, that it is surprisingly unusual to have the Hasbro Bluestreak come out here before it has even shown up as a pre-order at online stores, or even before samples have shown up on ebay.... which was why I wanted to verify it before posting it. (I was actually told last Thursday)
Va'al wrote:Seibertron.com board admin Burn has pointed us towards Australia-based fellow fansite Ozformers, where regular reliable source griffin has posted an interesting report from their latest dealings with Hasbro. It appears that two new Masterpiece figures will be showing up at general retail very soon: along with Takara import MP-24 Star Saber, Hasbro MP-06 Bluestreak (confirming its existence, number and general greyness) should be arriving by late April/May! Read more here or below.
alldarker wrote:Va'al wrote:Seibertron.com board admin Burn has pointed us towards Australia-based fellow fansite Ozformers, where regular reliable source griffin has posted an interesting report from their latest dealings with Hasbro. It appears that two new Masterpiece figures will be showing up at general retail very soon: along with Takara import MP-24 Star Saber, Hasbro MP-06 Bluestreak (confirming its existence, number and general greyness) should be arriving by late April/May! Read more here or below.
Slightly misleading to have a picture of the blue / silver MP-18B Bluestreak added to the news article about Hasbro's MP-06 (silver / black) Bluestreak confirmed for Australia, isn't it?
Conversely, perhaps this news should deserve its own topic instead of linked through this MP-18B topic.
Wait..WHAT?! MP-11 based Starscream?! AND FINALLY Sideswipe?! All in the U.S. of A.?! Rumors are rumors but THIS "seems legit"!! Sorry for the off-topicness.Va'al wrote:Hasbro MP-06 Bluestreak - the first of the three known American Masterpiece toys for 2015. (the other two being Sideswipe and Starscream)
It also is the first official confirmation of the MP number for Hasbro's Bluestreak.
Hasbro MP Sideswipe and Bluestreak were announced back at BotCon last year. And Starscream was found out here.itscramtastic wrote:Wait..WHAT?! MP-11 based Starscream?! AND FINALLY Sideswipe?! All in the U.S. of A.?! Rumors are rumors but THIS "seems legit"!! Sorry for the off-topicness.Va'al wrote:Hasbro MP-06 Bluestreak - the first of the three known American Masterpiece toys for 2015. (the other two being Sideswipe and Starscream)
It also is the first official confirmation of the MP number for Hasbro's Bluestreak.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Thanks! I thought they were just rumors as nothing really came of it at Toy Fair NYC. ExcellentSabrblade wrote:Hasbro MP Sideswipe and Bluestreak were announced back at BotCon last year. And Starscream was found out here.itscramtastic wrote:Wait..WHAT?! MP-11 based Starscream?! AND FINALLY Sideswipe?! All in the U.S. of A.?! Rumors are rumors but THIS "seems legit"!! Sorry for the off-topicness.Va'al wrote:Hasbro MP-06 Bluestreak - the first of the three known American Masterpiece toys for 2015. (the other two being Sideswipe and Starscream)
It also is the first official confirmation of the MP number for Hasbro's Bluestreak.
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