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Cyberpath wrote:I got my Shockwave today!
1. His left ankle tilt is so stiff that it's actually nonexistent. [Edit: loosened the screw, it's fine now!]
2. I think I don't mind the light-piping for this MP because his face was basically a flashing light-bulb. But hopefully they will stick with painted eyes.
3. The mold is spot on, but not sure how I feel about the shade of purple yet... and the lack of tampos really bugs me.
I don't want to apply the stickers and I don't want to leave him faction-less like a 3P figure either. It was a dumb move from Takara. They should have tampographed the real symbols and included the Sunbow stickers in case anyone wanted to apply them over. (Like Hasbro's CW Megatron.)
Maybe there's a place that can engrave or print the symbols privately. But just in case, where can I get quality Decepticon stickers, with white borders? The kind that sticks well but doesn't leave gross residue if you take them off? (if there is such a thing..)
More later...
Agamemnon wrote:I'd recommend asking for a whole new figure. In looking at mine, I cannot imagine how to disassemble it to get at that sheathing. In fact, mine looks like one piece from the shoulder part...
SW's SilverHammer wrote:So i'm going to go ahead and jump into a lion's den; as a figure (legitimacy aside) which is better: Quake Wave or MP Laserwave?
Big Grim wrote:SW's SilverHammer wrote:So i'm going to go ahead and jump into a lion's den; as a figure (legitimacy aside) which is better: Quake Wave or MP Laserwave?
From what I've seen of MP Shockwave and what I know of Quakewave (as I own that.), I gotta go with Quakewave myself. Darker purple, good size, glorious engineering and a fantastic transformation (without hollow, super panelly legs.) just make Quakewave utterly amazing to me.
Those who like MP Shockwave are welcome to their opinion as they are very bit as valid. And hey, as I've not bought Shockwave, that leaves one more free to someone who really wants it, y'know?
Seibertron wrote: Normally I try to refrain from posting my opinions when I strongly dislike something, but in this case I've got to level with all of you because I find all of the "wow this toy is amazing" comments from so many of you kind of odd when I find the toy frustrating overall.
This is the WRONG color purple. It doesn't match the cartoon and to be honest I'm not sure I'd want any Shockwave toy to "match" the color of his cartoon counterpart. Dark purplish blue, bluish purple. Not lavender or light purple or whatever! This toy's color was the hardest color to photograph that I've ever dealt with in 12.5 years of photographing Transformers toys (well aside from some of the crazy neon orange and pink colors like G2 Starscream). I couldn't match it no matter what camera settings I used, no matter how much I tinkered with the RAW files (adjusting hue, saturation, color temperature, contrast, etc). The toy doesn't match the cartoon, and like AutobotAlvaron said above, cartoon accuracy should be used as a guide but common sense should take over at some point.
What the heck is up with his backpack? I'm in disbelief that this was the best solution they could come up with. All we did was trade one partsforming piece for another, hardly an improvement on a toy designed by a lesser known company called Toyco back in the 1980s. If you transform the front of the cannon properly, it screws with his silhouette and overall color scheme since he know has a giant light gray piece on his back. It doesn't get any better when you add the backpack cover, because then he just ends up with a massive purple block on his back (which looks better, but not as good as it does on the original).
The light grayish purple hands, left arm cannon, and ears ... Takara you're killing me. Not interested in colors like this on my Transformers that should be silver and dark purple!!!!!!
The lower legs are a mess. I can't tell you how many few dozens of times his leg panels collapsed or didn't stay together when I would move him into a new position or different angle for the camera.
... which brings me to his feet. Ok in robot mode, but the fact that you can't even do what the G1 toy does so that he can "stand" in gun mode is absurd and unfortunate. But hey, we ended up with a silly looking purple stand instead. Nice.
As for the light piping for his singular eye ... it's a nice feature, but the light piping is too dark or something.
The light up feature was kind of a slap-in-the-face. It was a nice touch, but also a reminder that the sound effects were absent, which is what helped make G1 Shockwave so iconic. I liked how they implemented the light up feature, especially with the brief "stay-on" feature, but the lack of sound was disappointing.
The "hose" is also another disappointment. That metal coil will not last. It will become dented or bent, or whatever. We'll just end up with a hose with a different problem from the original. I just can't believe that was the best they could come up with.
His size ... Shockwave should have been bigger. And please for the love of god, if someone pulls out that silly G1 size chart, I'll go crazy. Shockwave should be big. Optimus Prime or bigger. Just like his G1 toy was bigger. He should be bigger than Soundwave and Starscream and I wouldn't mind if he was bigger than Megatron (though not the MP-5 Megatron). Ultimately, he just feels like another take on the original G1 toy with the only improvement being posability. So many details are the same, which is probably good, but at the same time it just feels like a rip-off of sorts or a 3rd party G1 Shockwave's original toy is so iconic that to not do it right just seems like an injustice.
So those are my thoughts. I've unloaded my opinions. Bummed about Shockwave and a few others recently released. Here's hoping we can get back to figures along the "masterpiece" levels of Masterpiece Wheeljack and Prowl soon.
Masterpiece MP-29 Shockwave Reissue Promotion
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Available to Asia (Exclude Japan)
itscramtastic wrote:Stupid dang reissue Asia exclusives!! Dangit!!
william-james88 wrote:itscramtastic wrote:Stupid dang reissue Asia exclusives!! Dangit!!
I am sure Shajaki will clue us in on how to get these extras independently of the figure
Wolfman Jake wrote:There already was a Hasbro Asia release with a collector coin along with the Takara release in March, right?
RiddlerJ wrote:I held off on picking up Shocky in case some kind of defect reared its head. Is he a good masterpiece?
william-james88 wrote:RiddlerJ wrote:I held off on picking up Shocky in case some kind of defect reared its head. Is he a good masterpiece?
Yes but you don't get as much bang for your buck
fenrir72 wrote:william-james88 wrote:RiddlerJ wrote:I held off on picking up Shocky in case some kind of defect reared its head. Is he a good masterpiece?
Yes but you don't get as much bang for your buck
Constructive counterpoint.
Aside from the lack of pew pew sounds and the "gerwalk" modes, he does everything what the G1 version does and better (articulation wise with some limitations of course)
Design wise, a more proportional emphasis to the anime
Minimum parts forming
Nuclear reactor conduit connector now a slinky (no more rubber rot)
Colors (well up to personal taste)
william-james88 wrote:fenrir72 wrote:william-james88 wrote:RiddlerJ wrote:I held off on picking up Shocky in case some kind of defect reared its head. Is he a good masterpiece?
Yes but you don't get as much bang for your buck
Constructive counterpoint.
Aside from the lack of pew pew sounds and the "gerwalk" modes, he does everything what the G1 version does and better (articulation wise with some limitations of course)
Design wise, a more proportional emphasis to the anime
Minimum parts forming
Nuclear reactor conduit connector now a slinky (no more rubber rot)
Colors (well up to personal taste)
I agree, but you just made my point more clear. Bang for your buck means you arent getting as much considering the money you spent. G1 Shockwave cost 24.86 in the 80s (and thats on the higher end)
Thats 50$ today. So now this new version, "aside from the lack of pew pew sounds and the "gerwalk" modes, he does everything what the G1 version does and better (articulation wise with some limitations of course)"... for 120-150$. So my point stands, for the money someone has to pay to get this, it is most certainly not guaranteed to be getting as much bang for your buck. For triple someone's cost, you are getting a slightly better toy and even that is highly debatable.
fenrir72 wrote:
3x the cost = inflation x import cost from middle men x increased shipping and handling and the price point is more or less the same as the old G1 figure. Kids aren't buying him anyway (overgrown man children on the other hand.....)
william-james88 wrote:fenrir72 wrote:
3x the cost = inflation x import cost from middle men x increased shipping and handling and the price point is more or less the same as the old G1 figure. Kids aren't buying him anyway (overgrown man children on the other hand.....)
Please stop with this misinformation. He is about 120$ in Japan. That is nowhere near what the G1 sold for when considering inflation. Please get your facts straight. Unless you are seriously saying and have proof that the MP is currently selling for 50$ new.
william-james88 wrote:we arent talking about the same thing here. I am talking about how much it was to buy G1 shockwave in the 80s. He offered more bang for your buck then, than the MP does now. No one can argue that.
Burn wrote:Question ... why are factoring in the middle man and import costs on a G1 figure when it was initially released in the 80's?
They were available in stores, for under $30US. Using an Inflation Calculator, that equates to about $65US in today's money.
Shockwave is currently available on HLJ for $125US, that's before shipping.
And I'd like to state for the record, I'm not taking sides here, I'm not getting into the "more bang for your buck" argument, I'm just curious as to how you come up with your figures.
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