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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Star Saber Discussion Thread

Postby fenrir72 » Sat Jan 10, 2015 9:31 am

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SkyWarpt wrote:So it's like g1 Mags with armor over saber?


No. He's got a core robot. UM MP doesn't.

Now that we're at it, for those who own the original Brainmasters, if an MP version, no matter how unlikely, will be created, does the core 'bot look like a mini me version of the transector body?
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Star Saber Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Sat Jan 10, 2015 12:08 pm

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fenrir72 wrote:
SkyWarpt wrote:So it's like g1 Mags with armor over saber?


No. He's got a core robot. UM MP doesn't.

Now that we're at it, for those who own the original Brainmasters, if an MP version, no matter how unlikely, will be created, does the core 'bot look like a mini me version of the transector body?
Ryan's got galleries of 'em; let's see.

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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Star Saber Discussion Thread

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SkyWarpt wrote:So it's like g1 Mags with armor over saber?


The way Saber and the V-Star combine is more like Powermaster Optimus Prime than Ultra Magnus.
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Star Saber Discussion Thread

Postby fenrir72 » Sat Jan 10, 2015 7:09 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:
SkyWarpt wrote:So it's like g1 Mags with armor over saber?


No. He's got a core robot. UM MP doesn't.

Now that we're at it, for those who own the original Brainmasters, if an MP version, no matter how unlikely, will be created, does the core 'bot look like a mini me version of the transector body?
Ryan's got galleries of 'em; let's see.

Brain of Strength
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Blacker
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Brain of Skill
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Laster
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Brain of Intelligence
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:BANG_HEAD: Gawd1 Ryan's collections......d'uh to me :lol:

So they are mini me versions of their trantectors!
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Star Saber Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Sat Jan 10, 2015 11:39 pm

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fenrir72 wrote:So they are mini me versions of their trantectors!
I'd actually be inclined to think that it's a reverse of the Transtector concept thing this time, with the Brains being, well, brains, and the larger bodies being the actual Cybertronians.

In Jean's explanation of them, he refers to the Brains as "meka", which means "mechanism" or in some cases "device", "gizmo", "gadget", etc., as though the Brains are each simply a component of the larger Brainmaster person, rather than being full living beings themselves.

After all, the fiction seemed to only depict them as an aspect of each Brainmaster's transformations, unlike the Headmasters, Targetmasters, Headmaster Juniors, and Godmasters.
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Star Saber Discussion Thread

Postby fenrir72 » Sun Jan 11, 2015 12:09 am

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fenrir72 wrote:So they are mini me versions of their trantectors!
I'd actually be inclined to think that it's a reverse of the Transtector concept thing this time, with the Brains being, well, brains, and the larger bodies being the actual Cybertronians.

In Jean's explanation of them, he refers to the Brains as "meka", which means "mechanism" or in some cases "device", "gizmo", "gadget", etc., as though the Brains are each simply a component of the larger Brainmaster person, rather than being full living beings themselves.

After all, the fiction seemed to only depict them as an aspect of each Brainmaster's transformations, unlike the Headmasters, Targetmasters, Headmaster Juniors, and Godmasters.


A mobile brain perhaps....though I might be thinking too much, make a very vulnerable target.
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Star Saber Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Sun Jan 11, 2015 12:13 am

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fenrir72 wrote:A moble brain perhaps..though I might be thinking too much, make a very vulnerable target.
I'd agree, though, I don't think they were removed from the bodies in either mode except for during the transformation sequences, in which they seemed to turn into some kind of energy form upon their reentering the bodies, suggesting some kind of mystical nature to them if not simply done for a cool visual effect.
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Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Star Saber Discussion Thread

Postby fenrir72 » Sun Jan 11, 2015 12:26 am

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fenrir72 wrote:A moble brain perhaps..though I might be thinking too much, make a very vulnerable target.
I'd agree, though, I don't think they were removed from the bodies in either mode except for during the transformation sequences, in which they seemed to turn into some kind of energy form upon their reentering the bodies, suggesting some kind of mystical nature to them if not simply done for a cool visual effect.


I'll deviate a bit to another anime but a bit related. In the 1980 Astroboy, Astro had an andrgynous looking foe called Zeus. Long hair pretty boy style with gossamer wings who assasinated a lot of other robots. It had a mobile brain module that could separate and function separately as the main body could also function independently even with the brain was away. The module btw looked like a dorky duckling (not kidding).

The concept was a decade or so before Victory.Relevance? It's quite intriguing that even in the early 80's, the concept and story tellers were quite advance for their time. I don't know if this was the inspiration for Victory or was it Jeeg with it's "headmaster" like concept, or even Diaclone too with the human pilot concept.

I'm getting aead of myself but the "Three Musketeers" in Victory really do need the MP treatment.
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Star Saber Discussion Thread

Postby chuckdawg1999 » Sun Jan 11, 2015 12:38 am

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fenrir72 wrote:
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fenrir72 wrote:A moble brain perhaps..though I might be thinking too much, make a very vulnerable target.
I'd agree, though, I don't think they were removed from the bodies in either mode except for during the transformation sequences, in which they seemed to turn into some kind of energy form upon their reentering the bodies, suggesting some kind of mystical nature to them if not simply done for a cool visual effect.


I'll deviate a bit to another anime but a bit related. In the 1980 Astroboy, Astro had an andrgynous looking foe called Zeus. Long hair pretty boy style with gossamer wings who assasinated a lot of other robots. It had a mobile brain module that could separate and function separately as the main body could also function independently even with the brain was away. The module btw looked like a dorky duckling (not kidding).

The concept was a decade or so before Victory.Relevance? It's quite intriguing that even in the early 80's, the concept and story tellers were quite advance for their time. I don't know if this was the inspiration for Victory or was it Jeeg with it's "headmaster" like concept, or even Diaclone too with the human pilot concept.

I'm getting aead of myself but the "Three Musketeers" in Victory really do need the MP treatment.


It's probably just the standard Japanese trope that humans control robots. Sentient robots are considered kiddie and odd.
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Star Saber Discussion Thread

Postby fenrir72 » Mon Jan 12, 2015 12:00 am

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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Star Saber Discussion Thread

Postby chuckdawg1999 » Mon Jan 12, 2015 1:04 am

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Ya know I gotta say it, I think the one issue with this figure will be the wrists and the inability to hold the sword edge forward. Unless there's a hidden joint I don't see how it will be done. I know we've seen pics where it comes close but I'm a little type A so that might drive me nuts.
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Star Saber Discussion Thread

Postby fenrir72 » Mon Jan 12, 2015 1:10 am

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chuckdawg1999 wrote:Ya know I gotta say it, I think the one issue with this figure will be the wrists and the inability to hold the sword edge forward. Unless there's a hidden joint I don't see how it will be done. I know we've seen pics where it comes close but I'm a little type A so that might drive me nuts.


Edge forward like the way human fencers practice their craft? Sadly, I don't see a ball joint on his wrist.
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Star Saber Discussion Thread

Postby chuckdawg1999 » Mon Jan 12, 2015 2:00 am

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chuckdawg1999 wrote:Ya know I gotta say it, I think the one issue with this figure will be the wrists and the inability to hold the sword edge forward. Unless there's a hidden joint I don't see how it will be done. I know we've seen pics where it comes close but I'm a little type A so that might drive me nuts.


Edge forward like the way human fencers practice their craft? Sadly, I don't see a ball joint on his wrist.


I mean like how most beings hold a sword. I don't see a ball joint either but I'm hoping the wrist pulls out and there's a hidden hinge or something.
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Star Saber Discussion Thread

Postby guarayakha » Mon Jan 12, 2015 3:53 am

chuckdawg1999 wrote:
I mean like how most beings hold a sword. I don't see a ball joint either but I'm hoping the wrist pulls out and there's a hidden hinge or something.


You mean having the sharp edge facing forward, right? They gave him an interchangable, longer sword hilt for that, if that's what you're talking about.
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Star Saber Discussion Thread

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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Star Saber Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Mon Jan 12, 2015 9:50 am

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chuckdawg1999 wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:Ya know I gotta say it, I think the one issue with this figure will be the wrists and the inability to hold the sword edge forward. Unless there's a hidden joint I don't see how it will be done. I know we've seen pics where it comes close but I'm a little type A so that might drive me nuts.


Edge forward like the way human fencers practice their craft? Sadly, I don't see a ball joint on his wrist.


I mean like how most beings hold a sword. I don't see a ball joint either but I'm hoping the wrist pulls out and there's a hidden hinge or something.
These ones look edge forward:

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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Star Saber Discussion Thread

Postby Tsutsukakushi » Mon Jan 12, 2015 10:50 am

Unlike MP-22, It looks like MP-24 will have full range of movement in the legs.
http://tformers.com/masterpiece-star-sa ... /news.html
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Star Saber Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Mon Jan 12, 2015 11:02 am

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Tsutsukakushi wrote:Unlike MP-22, It looks like MP-24 will have full range of movement in the legs.
http://tformers.com/masterpiece-star-sa ... /news.html
Those came from the same source as always - https://twitter.com/TFYUKI/status/554502298299154432

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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Star Saber Discussion Thread

Postby guarayakha » Mon Jan 12, 2015 11:11 am

Sabrblade wrote:Those came from the same source as always
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Am I going crazy, or is that an ab crunch I see? :shock: :shock:
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chuckdawg1999 wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:Ya know I gotta say it, I think the one issue with this figure will be the wrists and the inability to hold the sword edge forward. Unless there's a hidden joint I don't see how it will be done. I know we've seen pics where it comes close but I'm a little type A so that might drive me nuts.


Edge forward like the way human fencers practice their craft? Sadly, I don't see a ball joint on his wrist.


I mean like how most beings hold a sword. I don't see a ball joint either but I'm hoping the wrist pulls out and there's a hidden hinge or something.
These ones look edge forward:

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Ooooooh, it looks like there may be some design trickery going on here. It looks like the hilt, made up of wings of what I assume is supposed to represent the nose of the plane, are not completely centered, allowing for clearance from the high points of the wrist armor. Very clever, Takara! :APPLAUSE:
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Star Saber Discussion Thread

Postby chuckdawg1999 » Mon Jan 12, 2015 6:22 pm

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guarayakha wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:
I mean like how most beings hold a sword. I don't see a ball joint either but I'm hoping the wrist pulls out and there's a hidden hinge or something.


You mean having the sharp edge facing forward, right? They gave him an interchangable, longer sword hilt for that, if that's what you're talking about.


That I did not know about and I think is all kinds of awesome!
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Star Saber Discussion Thread

Postby shajaki » Mon Jan 12, 2015 10:27 pm

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i cant believe after all this time, and all these teaser pics, that theyre still showing us new things about this figure. IM SO EXCITED!
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Star Saber Discussion Thread

Postby chuckdawg1999 » Tue Jan 13, 2015 12:02 am

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shajaki wrote:i cant believe after all this time, and all these teaser pics, that theyre still showing us new things about this figure. IM SO EXCITED!


Takara knows how to tease its audience. I can't wait to get mine.
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Re: Takara Tomy Masterpiece Star Saber Discussion Thread

Postby Tsutsukakushi » Tue Jan 13, 2015 12:09 am

chuckdawg1999 wrote:
shajaki wrote:i cant believe after all this time, and all these teaser pics, that theyre still showing us new things about this figure. IM SO EXCITED!


Takara knows how to tease its audience. I can't wait to get mine.


Waiting to buy mine also. Hoping it's not late and gets released on time.

Love how many newer mold MP Transformers toys Takara is making each year. Hoping the fast pace keeps going. Wondering and excited to see which bigger MP TF character toys Takara makes next. My wish list is MP Galvatron, MP Overlord, MP Sixshot, MP Blitzwing, MP Astrotrain.
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Limited english language release for Masterpiece Star Sabre with new bio

Postby william-james88 » Tue Feb 03, 2015 9:36 pm

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It seems Masterpiece Star Sabre is going to get a limited english language release through Hasbro's distribution. GOKTIMUS PRIME (self chosen pseudonym), revealed today, on Talk Transformers facebook fan page, that he has translated the Star Sabre bio for Hasbro, and has also made it entirely different from the japanese bio. The full quote is below. It should be noted that this release is most probably limited to the Australian market where Hasbro also helped distribute Takara's recent Ultra Magnus and Bumblebee, which showed up in Australian Toysrus stores.

I can now reveal that MP Star Sabre was the third translation/adaptation job that I was doing for Hasbro. However, the English bio is completely different and unrelated to the Japanese one. The Japanese bio is based on Star Sabre's appearance in Transformers Victory, where he was -- character-wise -- basically a clone of Optimus Prime (re: flawless heroic saviour archetype). The English bio is based on IDW Star Sabre, where Star Sabre is an incredibly dark character.
In the Japanese booklet, Star Sabre's function is "Autobot Supreme Commander." For the Hasbro version, his function has been changed to 'Duly Appointed Enforcer of the Tyrest Accord' (at times abbreviated to 'Tyrest Accord Enforcer' or just "Autobot Enforcer" in different parts of the booklet). Japanese G1 tech specs don't have mottos, and I only had access to the booklet and not the tech specs card (so I have no idea if TakaraTOMY have newly created a motto for him), but the motto I created for the Hasbro version is "Quidquid facio sancitur divinitus.", which is Latin for "Everything I do is divinely sanctioned." -- and yes, I have written the motto in both Latin and English (as I did for Stinger ).
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