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-Kanrabat- wrote:
So, just stop buying. Maybe the prices will be more reasonable then?

I have never ever purchased a hasbro asia product.

william-james88 wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:
So, just stop buying. Maybe the prices will be more reasonable then?

I have never ever purchased a hasbro asia product.

I did some dark ritual to check out the state of Hell and it's not frozen over. So of course yuu didn't. I was talking about everyone else, obviously.

i wonder if hasbro even cares how inept takara makes them look.

william-james88 wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:The one that REALLY gouging up the prices is not Hasbro USA/Europe. It's not Takara. It's Hasbro ASIA.

Just look at the prices of Hasbro Asia exclusives, including the Platinum Editions available for the rest of the world.

Now THOSES are worth bitching about. Whining about anything else is chasing windmills.

You know what the worst part about those Hasbro Asia prices are? The representatives said that the prices are not cost based but demand based. They said that these are prices chinese collectors are willing to pay and thus that is the price they set as MSRP. Now that is pretty nuts!

Ever wonder why there's the so called "fictional" market X keeps on harping about? Well, the so called Asian market is CHINA indeed. The rich customers there don't beotch about the prices but do a "Fly" from Futurama.

It's just that X is ignoring it. Also, the Asia market should also be differentiated from the equally unbelievable Japanese market.......where TF plays 3rd fiddle to Gundam and Evangelion.

TimothyR wrote:i wonder if hasbro even cares how inept takara makes them look.

I think they are quite glad takara exists in times like these. hasbro has put their foot down on this line labelling it for a younger audience. They see a lot more potential and money serving that demographic than collectors in this line and it makes sense. And it would suck for us, but in this case we have takara that is treating it like a full fledged collector brand. So Hasbro's pretty happy, they didnt cater to us and dont need to since Takara is there for that. Like that the two companies dont step over eachother's toes in the least and cater to two different audiences.

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Hellscream9999 wrote:

Ultra Markus wrote:again with 100 versions of bumble bee

Not sure what you mean? Hasbro has their 2 actual tf's (warrior and legend), now TT need their own versions for their audience - so they don't have to import them (but, being so unpainted, why would they); that they are willing to got the extra mile and give us a heavily re-molded show accurate version, is just TT being nice

He's referring to all the redecos plus retools we've had so far:

1) Bumblebee
2) Night Ops Bumblebee
3) Clash of the Transformers Bumblebee
4) Night Strike Bumblebee
5) TAV29 Bumblebee Supreme Mode

This is heading towards DotM Bumblebee all over again.

exactly!

william-james88 wrote:I have never ever purchased a hasbro asia product.

MP-10?

Cobotron wrote:

william-james88 wrote:I have never ever purchased a hasbro asia product.

MP-10?

AAARGHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Your right COBO! I totally forgot that. However, in my defense, I did buy him because he was decently priced. He was priced lower than Takara's MSRP and came with more stuff.

Ok, so I should have said I never bought any of the overpriced items from Hasbro Asia.

-Kanrabat- wrote:With all that Bee talk, I'm just glad Hasbro learned their lesson from Prime and DOTM's times.

Remember The Swarm?

Ugh! It still gives me nightmares.

Starsaber468 wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

Starsaber468 wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Rated X wrote:I stand by what Ive been saying for years. Hasbro versions only exist to justify Takaras overpriced existance. They all come from the same mold in china anyways. Thats about 50 cents worth of extra paint and and additional 10 cents to pay the poor Chinese factory worker to apply it. That "Asian market" excuse is the biggest fraud of all time.

Less this, more hasbro wanting to maximize profits on a bunch of effortless (literally, no effort was put into the clash figures) repaints.

They could have released a clash strongarm.

They could have given them better paint jobs.

They could have remolded a couple of parts to make them look more the part.

They didn't, and I'm not surprised, just disappointed

They did do some remolding look at the chest and the arms... wait can someone post a picture of what bumblebees upgraded form looked like in the cartoon and how show accurate is it because I wanna see uf it needs reprolabels

There was no remolding for the clash figures. TAV 29 is a takara exclusive remold to look like bumblebee's upgraded form. Takara and hasbro both put out basic repaints of Prime, Bee and Swipe for the line based on the season finale. Swipe's and Prime's actually looks good, but Bee looks far better in his retail non-clash self. the TAV version is soooooo much better though.

Sorr6 I thought you were refering to the takara verison and the takara does look better but is it show accurate....

It is very show accurate. Spot on basically.

OptimalOptimus2 wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:With all that Bee talk, I'm just glad Hasbro learned their lesson from Prime and DOTM's times.

Remember The Swarm?

Ugh! It still gives me nightmares.

So much......ba......bananas.......

fenrir72 wrote:So much......ba......bananas.......

william-james88 wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:So much......ba......bananas.......

You got that right!

-Kanrabat- wrote:With all that Bee talk, I'm just glad Hasbro learned their lesson from Prime and DOTM's times.

Remember The Swarm?



Now at least, the ammount of Bees is pretty reasonable.

OptimalOptimus2 wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:With all that Bee talk, I'm just glad Hasbro learned their lesson from Prime and DOTM's times.

Remember The Swarm?

Ugh! It still gives me nightmares.

Hell yeah... And if you look closely, you'll see each Bee pegs are between 4 to 6 Bees deep. I rearanged the display myself for this photo so ALL the Bess are together. If you see a Bee, it only hide MORE Bees.

Back on topic please ... staff included.

I would love to nab several of the tav figures (nemesis prime, supremebee, roadblock...), guess I'll wait to see if they go on sale later in the year; if I wasn't willing to pay $8 for scoop and his targetmasters, I'm definitely not paying $25 for him w/out his targetmasters

Hellscream9999 wrote:I would love to nab several of the tav figures (nemesis prime, supremebee, roadblock...), guess I'll wait to see if they go on sale later in the year; if I wasn't willing to pay $8 for scoop and his targetmasters, I'm definitely not paying $25 for him w/out his targetmasters

If you have the ability I would go for Bee Supreme. It is an awesome retool and it is nothing like any Bee we have ever gotten.

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:I would love to nab several of the tav figures (nemesis prime, supremebee, roadblock...), guess I'll wait to see if they go on sale later in the year; if I wasn't willing to pay $8 for scoop and his targetmasters, I'm definitely not paying $25 for him w/out his targetmasters

If you have the ability I would go for Bee Supreme. It is an awesome retool and it is nothing like any Bee we have ever gotten.

He looks pretty cool, but I wouldn't pay full price + shipping for it;

On a different note, looks like the pre-orders for voyager grimlock and bumblesupreme have already sold out

You'd think TT would take the hint, and up production runs by a bit, and maybe offer several of the other figs people wanted again (vehicon general, runabout...)

Hellscream9999 wrote:On a different note, looks like the pre-orders for voyager grimlock and bumblesupreme have already sold out

You'd think TT would take the hint, and up production runs by a bit, and maybe offer several of the other figs people wanted again (vehicon general, runabout...)

Robot Kingdom still has several up for pre-order (Still waiting on the order to ship....)

Hellscream9999 wrote: if I wasn't willing to pay $8 for scoop and his targetmasters, I'm definitely not paying $25 for him w/out his targetmasters

Roadblock does come with one TM. So if he does ever hit 8 bucks you should snatch him up like a cancer vaccine.

Cobotron wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote: if I wasn't willing to pay $8 for scoop and his targetmasters, I'm definitely not paying $25 for him w/out his targetmasters

Roadblock does come with one TM. So if he does ever hit 8 bucks you should snatch him up like a cancer vaccine.

Oh, most certainly, that paint job is sooo much better than nearly-neon orange and orange

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Cobotron wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote: if I wasn't willing to pay $8 for scoop and his targetmasters, I'm definitely not paying $25 for him w/out his targetmasters

Roadblock does come with one TM. So if he does ever hit 8 bucks you should snatch him up like a cancer vaccine.

Oh, most certainly, that paint job is sooo much better than nearly-neon orange and orange

Ya. He's way better, and I like Scoop. when I finally get Devy, He's gonna be there little fetch-it biotch.

Cobotron wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Cobotron wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote: if I wasn't willing to pay $8 for scoop and his targetmasters, I'm definitely not paying $25 for him w/out his targetmasters

Roadblock does come with one TM. So if he does ever hit 8 bucks you should snatch him up like a cancer vaccine.

Oh, most certainly, that paint job is sooo much better than nearly-neon orange and orange

Ya. He's way better, and I like Scoop. when I finally get Devy, He's gonna be there little fetch-it biotch.

Scoop being painted constructicon green. Guess takara knew how IDW would be makin Devy in the comics....