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I've got Nemesis Prime coming but I couldn't get Windblade and I'm kicking myself. The pre-orders on BBTS sold out before we got clear, color pictures. Just for the painted sword alone, I'd like to have that figure, and I hate the character and the head. The Warrior class Power Surge Prime mold is a fantastic throwback to what TF's used to be.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:I've got Nemesis Prime coming but I couldn't get Windblade and I'm kicking myself. The pre-orders on BBTS sold out before we got clear, color pictures. Just for the painted sword alone, I'd like to have that figure, and I hate the character and the head. The Warrior class Power Surge Prime mold is a fantastic throwback to what TF's used to be.

Care to share more thoughts on that mold and why you feel that way? And do you feel that about the original mold as well or just the retool?

william-james88 wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:I've got Nemesis Prime coming but I couldn't get Windblade and I'm kicking myself. The pre-orders on BBTS sold out before we got clear, color pictures. Just for the painted sword alone, I'd like to have that figure, and I hate the character and the head. The Warrior class Power Surge Prime mold is a fantastic throwback to what TF's used to be.

Care to share more thoughts on that mold and why you feel that way? And do you feel that about the original mold as well or just the retool?

It has a formless, lump-like vehicle mode with body parts sticking out of it, and sh|t articulation in half of his body in robot mode, something smells of Armada to me

Hellscream9999 wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:I've got Nemesis Prime coming but I couldn't get Windblade and I'm kicking myself. The pre-orders on BBTS sold out before we got clear, color pictures. Just for the painted sword alone, I'd like to have that figure, and I hate the character and the head. The Warrior class Power Surge Prime mold is a fantastic throwback to what TF's used to be.

Care to share more thoughts on that mold and why you feel that way? And do you feel that about the original mold as well or just the retool?

It has a formless, lump-like vehicle mode with body parts sticking out of it, and sh|t articulation in half of his body in robot mode, something smells of Armada to me

I assume you're talking about Prime; it's a tractor trailer, clear as day. There's maybe ONE joint missing from the arms, that would help but it's not THAT bad.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:I've got Nemesis Prime coming but I couldn't get Windblade and I'm kicking myself. The pre-orders on BBTS sold out before we got clear, color pictures. Just for the painted sword alone, I'd like to have that figure, and I hate the character and the head. The Warrior class Power Surge Prime mold is a fantastic throwback to what TF's used to be.

Care to share more thoughts on that mold and why you feel that way? And do you feel that about the original mold as well or just the retool?

It has a formless, lump-like vehicle mode with body parts sticking out of it, and sh|t articulation in half of his body in robot mode, something smells of Armada to me

I assume you're talking about Prime; it's a tractor trailer, clear as day. There's maybe ONE joint missing from the arms, that would help but it's not THAT bad.

You still havent told us what about it makes it a fantastic throwback and I am all ears So let us know.

The Toyrsus exclusive Clash of the Transformers Robots in Disguise Warrior Starsceam figure was released a while ago to great surprise by the fan base but it was still unknown how Takara's version would look like. It has finally been revealed. It will not be an exclusive, unlike last year's Clash fo the Transformers figurs which were the same in Japan as in the rest of the world. Instead, this new Starscream is part of the main line and sports the code TAV 62. It has a similar deco theme to the Hasbro version with a few changes and extra paint apps (ex: chin, abdominal area, a red line on the shoulders). A comparison can be found below.

TAV61 God Optimus Prime has also been revealed. It is a redeco of TAV50 and has a very similar deco to the Hasbro version of this mold known as Power Surge Optimus Prime. Comparison images can also be found below. Let us know if these are worth the import, especially at the higher exchange rate. They are currently available for preorder at Takaratomymall for ￥2,700 ($27) and ￥9,720 ($97) respectively and coming out November 12th 2016.

Whoa, those extra little details on Starscream make him look really pretty.

Love the dark gray shoulders instead of the Hasbro version's baby blue shoulders.

Who on earth would pay $95 for that dumbed-down prime

(especially since habsro's has all those additional 'energy' paint apps) you could buy the hasbro release and paint it up yourself for a sliver of the price

Also, wouldn't it be more since TTmall doesn't let people order them from outside of Japan? So wouldn't they be even more expensive from the likes of bbts?

Hellscream9999 wrote:Also, wouldn't it be more since TTmall doesn't let people order them from outside of Japan? So wouldn't they be even more expensive from the likes of bbts?

Only if they were exclusives, giving the other distributor (Hasbro Asia or now Transformers Asia) ability to ask for more. But these arent exclusives, so they can still get them from any middleman. BBTS and TFSource can never buy directly from takara (doesnt matter if they are ttmall exclusives or not) but when they arent exclusives, the amount of middlemen they can buy it form is very high and thus the rates are far more competitive, so they can charge the takara MSRP (or less if they made a deal before the exchange rate hike http://tfsource.com/transformers-advent ... mus-prime/).

william-james88 wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:Also, wouldn't it be more since TTmall doesn't let people order them from outside of Japan? So wouldn't they be even more expensive from the likes of bbts?

Only if they were exclusives, giving the other distributor (Hasbro Asia or now Transformers Asia) ability to ask for more. But these arent exclusives, so they can still get them from any middleman. BBTS and TFSource can never buy directly from takara (doesnt matter if they are ttmall exclusives or not) but when they arent exclusives, the amount of middlemen they can buy it form is very high and thus the rates are far more competitive, so they can charge the takara MSRP (or less if they made a deal before the exchange rate hike http://tfsource.com/transformers-advent ... mus-prime/).

Right, but at that point, the original point still stands, is anyone going to pay $100 for that crappy prime figure? Maybe they'll order enough to cover pre-orders, but, I mean, I've seen it, held it, and it is just no where near worth $100 + shipping

Hellscream9999 wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:Also, wouldn't it be more since TTmall doesn't let people order them from outside of Japan? So wouldn't they be even more expensive from the likes of bbts?

Only if they were exclusives, giving the other distributor (Hasbro Asia or now Transformers Asia) ability to ask for more. But these arent exclusives, so they can still get them from any middleman. BBTS and TFSource can never buy directly from takara (doesnt matter if they are ttmall exclusives or not) but when they arent exclusives, the amount of middlemen they can buy it form is very high and thus the rates are far more competitive, so they can charge the takara MSRP (or less if they made a deal before the exchange rate hike http://tfsource.com/transformers-advent ... mus-prime/).

Right, but at that point, the original point still stands, is anyone going to pay $100 for that crappy prime figure? I've seen it, held it, and it is just garbage

Oh I know, I just wanted to give some info, hope you didnt mind. I would also be very curious who in Japan would pay that amount. Most japanese retailers dont use the MSRP and sell him for 60$ instead which is the same price point that mold goes for in Canada.

They both look beautiful paint wise

william-james88 wrote:Oh I know, I just wanted to give some info, hope you didnt mind. I would also be very curious who in Japan would pay that amount. Most japanese retailers dont use the MSRP and sell him for 60$ instead which is the same price point that mold goes for in Canada.

Naw, it's all good, love to hear about stuff like that

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:They both look beautiful paint wise

They're identical, except that the lightning on the legs of the hasbro version were swapped for toe paint, and darker plastics...

Hellscream9999 wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:They both look beautiful paint wise

They're identical, except that the lightning on the legs of the hasbro version were swapped for toe paint, and darker plastics...

But it's those little details that are really sticking out there for me

Hellscream9999 wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:They both look beautiful paint wise

They're identical, except that the lightning on the legs of the hasbro version were swapped for toe paint, and darker plastics...

Takara's version has white on its arms, the wings seem to be more translucent, the arm fins have their deco inverted, the sides of the robot mode torso are gray instead of red, colored wheel rims, dark blue hands instead of gray hands, Aerobolt is more extensively painted, gray circles on the shoulders, white truck sides instead of red, and maybe more differences.

Brutal.

Let's pretend the Minicons cost $100 and the Prime is a bonus figure.

Counterpunch wrote:Brutal.

Let's pretend the Minicons cost $100 and the Prime is a bonus figure.

Speaking of which, I think that it should be mentioned in the news story that the o/p mold comes with the first tav release of the weaponizer dragonus and tricerashot, and may - ironically - be the among the easiest ways people in the US could get those figures

HLJ has preorders up now. Starscream is around $19 US and Prime is about $71US. Starscream certainly looks nice but I don't think I need to double dip with him, I haven't done that yet and I don't really want to start now.
Starscream- https://hlj.com/product/tkt86291

Prime- https://hlj.com/product/tkt87523

Hellscream9999 wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:Also, wouldn't it be more since TTmall doesn't let people order them from outside of Japan? So wouldn't they be even more expensive from the likes of bbts?

Only if they were exclusives, giving the other distributor (Hasbro Asia or now Transformers Asia) ability to ask for more. But these arent exclusives, so they can still get them from any middleman. BBTS and TFSource can never buy directly from takara (doesnt matter if they are ttmall exclusives or not) but when they arent exclusives, the amount of middlemen they can buy it form is very high and thus the rates are far more competitive, so they can charge the takara MSRP (or less if they made a deal before the exchange rate hike http://tfsource.com/transformers-advent ... mus-prime/).

Right, but at that point, the original point still stands, is anyone going to pay $100 for that crappy prime figure? Maybe they'll order enough to cover pre-orders, but, I mean, I've seen it, held it, and it is just no where near worth $100 + shipping

Is there some retooling on the figure as well, new shoulder cannons or is it just the pic? I never realized you could peg minicons on the sword, nice.

Fellow Seibetronian xRotorstormx, currently travelling through Japan, dove into the Takara Tomy Transformers Adventure line and fished out a TAV56 Prime of Micron Nemesis Prime figure - and decided to share some in-hand package images of the black and red repaint of Optimus Prime, featuring its red cleavers, and the deluxe/warrior Power Surge look. Check them out below, and keep your optics peeled soon for some more images!

That red is so pretty.

Are those some scenes we haven't seen yet from upcoming episodes on the back of the packaging?

I wonder how good it would look to swap the red for the original blue wings/swords.

That is so cool looking