megatronus wrote:I wonder what actual ladies would have to say about the pose of that inanimate lump of plastic. My wife certainly rolled her eyes at this, and I'd be interested to hear what female members think about it.
At this point, my issue isn't with the pose itself so much as with the people really going out of their way to invalidate or mock the opinions of folks who do take issue with it. Seems very #GamerGate to me.
Whether or not you think there's some level of sexism/misogyny here, I would have expected the long absent Fembot figures to be treated with some caution. Arcee's pose isn't nearly as bad as the objectification of FlameWar and FlareUp, but given the potential for that perception, I had hoped they would have done something generic like Chromia's shot rather than potentially problematic silhouettes like Arcee's or scenes of the lady bots fawning over big strong Star Saber.
Not trying to ruffle feathers here, but I do think it's important for a predominantly male fandom to be conscious of these things.
This.
#GamerGate had a lot of legit issues which were quite similar to some issues raised by Rated X about the industry being too comfy with each other. The rest of the trash that followed was overkill. Let's leave it at that. As for people going out of their way to raise a legitimate counter to the issue raised about sexism, well you need to BACK UP your statements no?
I even raised the definition of "sexist". The pose in question when fitted with the term sexist really doesn't make sense at all.
Sexism can't be a one way street focused only at the female gender. Males too are objectified hence I also posted pics of several bad@ss male transformers all projecting their BFGs. That Megatron pose by Guido Guidi........so makes you want to submit to him and bow down. Got to hand it to the artist for rendering an awesome pose.
It is quite silly that we have gone to a point of being so ultra sensitive that anything must be so "controversial" that we have to think if I'm hurting someone.....is this kind of Orwellian already? Really, I didn't see the pose of Arcee making me want to turn females into submissive underdogs/servants/slaves etc. Nada....nothing.
I really don't see anything "sexual" in TFs. Just the never ending battle between good and evil. If you want sexual, go to regular canned live shows or reality garbage in network shows. You've got more than enough of those. In animation? Well you have anime, if those are your kicks.
It seems you can NEVER please a significant member of society......its gone to a point of being a Grievance Society.......no Industry. I'd bet someone in the gunless movement will protest against making MP Megatron as a propaganda tool for the NRA or selling toys like Legends "tank" Megatron as encouraging kids to go to war will get targetted by Code Pink and those Peaceniks.
It has spilled out to a point that the anti tobacco laws (which I support as it, tobacco KILLS people with Cancer) has caused legal issues with the sale of MP-Exhaust, which though already modified the "Malboor" logo is still an issue at selling it domestically).
It has come to a point of silliness. Peace.