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Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Toyline Thread

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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Toyline Thread

Postby TF-fan kev777 » Wed Oct 11, 2017 9:16 pm

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william-james88 wrote:Case in point, Hasbro Kup cost me $13 while Takara Kup would cost me $40 (maybe even more).


WJ88, I understand where you're coming from, but Kup is perhaps the WORST example you could have used here. Takara Legends Kup is hands down superior to Hasbro's release in almost every way. Yes, it lacks Hasbro's combinable guns for a Titan Master to sit in, but it instead has his classic Titanmaster partner, an all new sculpt Takara made that Hasbro might never release. On top of that, Takara's Kup has a much better head sculpt, retooled shoulders and lower arms, and a color scheme and paint job that makes it look like their version just walked out of the G1 cartoon and onto our display shelves. Legends Kup is worth paying almost triple what it would cost for Hasbro's offering. Honestly, the difference is about as apparent as Titans Return Blurr versus Legends Blurr. You know which one everyone really wants.


I kind of both agree and disagree with you on this. Kup is definitely a bad example because of the retooling of the figure itself. It isn't just a slightly different deco, but a retool, different head, etc. But a disagree with you on the target master making it a bad example. That actually makes it a good example for what Will was trying to express with the rest of his comment that you clipped, as it is something that accompanies the figure that replaces what Hasbro's figure comes with.

As for superiority, that is completely objective. For me, personally, I like the Hasbro Kup figure better. My main focus is the toy itself, particularly the transformation, so I am more open to differences in deco than most fans here. I'm not attached to G1 toy or cartoon accuracy, so I somewhat have the freedom to just look at the decos and select what looks better to me and my tastes without accuracy coming into play. In this case, I just like the Hasbro face better than Takara. I also don't really care for the Takara target masters themselves, again not having a need for G1 accuracy, they just aren't that important to me. On top of that, they just don't look that great as guns, like a minibot laying down with a pole or 2 coming out of their heads Don't get me wrong, if they were released by Hasbro at the titan/prime master price point, I'd jump all over them because, well plastic crack. But they aren't important enough to me to pay the extra $$$ for a deco on Kup that I like less than the Hasbro one.

I know I'm totally in the minority here, but just wanted to point out that there are in fact other collectors whom don't care as much for the G1 accuracy, so it is great that we all have options to suit our tastes and/or budgets.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Toyline Thread

Postby King Kuuga » Wed Oct 11, 2017 10:01 pm

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TF-fan kev777 wrote:As for superiority, that is completely objective.

Subjective, actually. It's an opinion. Objective means there is no dispute, it's a fact.

Anyway. I'm impressed by Grand Max and Greatshot but cannot afford them so I simply hope, for the sake of those who do want them, that they make it out.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Toyline Thread

Postby william-james88 » Wed Oct 11, 2017 10:46 pm

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william-james88 wrote:
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megatronus wrote:Crap. If it's through Takara Tomy Mall, does that mean the 2000+ preorders MUST come from Japanese buyers?


I'm assuming some of the big online retailers/importers have a way to get around this. I'm not too concerned about 2,000 orders happening.

The fact that the previous legends reissues did not pass the treshold asked for tells me that its just TTMall. If there was a way to get around it through other retailers, then there would be enough demand for nothing to have been cancelled, which wasnt the case.

God I hope you're wrong.

To the extent that most people who wanted a Generations Metroplex had already gotten one, I don't think comparing the cancellation of reissues to two new releases is fair.

God... I really hope you're wrong on this one, Will.


Just to be clear, I am not saying it wont happen or that it cant happen, or anything negative. Being right about this doesnt mean this wont happen. I hope this happens for you and everyone. I am just saying that its not a given and that yes, we do have to rely on Japan only orders for this one, as we also had to rely on japan only orders for the Legends reissues.

But as Seibertron pointed out, these are new toys, so like him I am very optimistic that 2000 Japanese fans who will place orders. Also, I am sure several fans outside japan will also place orders by using a forwarding service where TTMall will ship to them and they will the ship to you (like Big in Japan). Anyone reading can do that as well ;)^ You can ask Powered Convoy for tips on that, he does it all the time.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Toyline Thread

Postby primalxconvoy » Thu Oct 12, 2017 12:09 am

To be honest, I'd like TT's Kup, in Hasbro's (toy) colours...
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Toyline Thread

Postby TF-fan kev777 » Thu Oct 12, 2017 2:23 am

King Kuuga wrote:
TF-fan kev777 wrote:As for superiority, that is completely objective.

Subjective, actually. It's an opinion. Objective means there is no dispute, it's a fact.


In the immortal words of Homer Simpson, D'oh!
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Toyline Thread

Postby Wolfman Jake » Thu Oct 12, 2017 11:43 am

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TF-fan kev777 wrote:
King Kuuga wrote:
TF-fan kev777 wrote:As for superiority, that is completely objective.

Subjective, actually. It's an opinion. Objective means there is no dispute, it's a fact.


In the immortal words of Homer Simpson, D'oh!


If it helps, you can just assume that you were subconsciously agreeing with me, despite what you were (attempting) to write in your reply. ;)
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Toyline Thread

Postby Dr. Caelus » Thu Oct 12, 2017 11:50 am

By the by, I was inspired by this news post to try something, and it worked pretty well - Quickswitch's 'submarine' mode makes for a good weapon for Fortress Maximus.

Max can't hold him one-handed like a pistol, but with the Quickswitch's legs extended, Max can hold him like a pump-action shotgun, which looks pretty cool.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Toyline Thread

Postby snavej » Thu Oct 12, 2017 11:54 am

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In that Grand Maximus poster, in the top right corner, it says 'Base Mode'. For a second, I misread it as 'Arse Mode'! :lol:
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Toyline Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Thu Oct 12, 2017 12:02 pm

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Caelus wrote:By the by, I was inspired by this news post to try something, and it worked pretty well - Quickswitch's 'submarine' mode makes for a good weapon for Fortress Maximus.

Max can't hold him one-handed like a pistol, but with the Quickswitch's legs extended, Max can hold him like a pump-action shotgun, which looks pretty cool.

Well damn, even though I made Max a sword, I gotta try this!
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Toyline Thread

Postby Insurgent » Thu Oct 12, 2017 12:03 pm

Pics!! Nee pics of that shotgun mode hel by fortress.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Toyline Thread

Postby Dr. Caelus » Thu Oct 12, 2017 12:16 pm

A person could probably finegle a better look out of this, but this is what I was able to do without moving Max too much (which would have potentially knocked a bunch of other things on the shelf over). Mostly I'm impressed by the strength of Max and Plex's arms. My Metroplex is holding a golf ball-sized pyrite sphere in one hand.

I feel like this would look really good with Greatshot and Grand Maximus, since their color schemes seem more compatible.

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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Toyline Thread

Postby Relic0037 » Thu Oct 12, 2017 12:32 pm

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Caelus wrote:A person could probably finegle a better look out of this, but this is what I was able to do without moving Max too much (which would have potentially knocked a bunch of other things on the shelf over). Mostly I'm impressed by the strength of Max and Plex's arms. My Metroplex is holding a golf ball-sized pyrite sphere in one hand.

I feel like this would look really good with Greatshot and Grand Maximus, since their color schemes seem more compatible.

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Now all you need in that pic is a word bubble with a good Stallone or Schwarzenegger action movie quote in it :D
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Toyline Thread

Postby RodimusConvoy13 » Thu Oct 12, 2017 12:53 pm

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Relic0037 wrote:
Caelus wrote:A person could probably finegle a better look out of this, but this is what I was able to do without moving Max too much (which would have potentially knocked a bunch of other things on the shelf over). Mostly I'm impressed by the strength of Max and Plex's arms. My Metroplex is holding a golf ball-sized pyrite sphere in one hand.

I feel like this would look really good with Greatshot and Grand Maximus, since their color schemes seem more compatible.

DSCF3824.JPG

DSCF3826.JPG

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Now all you need in that pic is a word bubble with a good Stallone or Schwarzenegger action movie quote in it :D



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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Toyline Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Thu Oct 12, 2017 12:55 pm

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RodimusConvoy13 wrote:
Relic0037 wrote:
Caelus wrote:A person could probably finegle a better look out of this, but this is what I was able to do without moving Max too much (which would have potentially knocked a bunch of other things on the shelf over). Mostly I'm impressed by the strength of Max and Plex's arms. My Metroplex is holding a golf ball-sized pyrite sphere in one hand.

I feel like this would look really good with Greatshot and Grand Maximus, since their color schemes seem more compatible.

DSCF3824.JPG

DSCF3826.JPG

DSCF3827.JPG


Now all you need in that pic is a word bubble with a good Stallone or Schwarzenegger action movie quote in it :D



"It's time to put you.... on ICE!"

oh wait, you asked for a good Schwarzenegger quote. Sorry.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Toyline Thread

Postby Va'al » Thu Oct 12, 2017 12:57 pm

Motto: "Till All Are Pun!"
Sabrblade wrote:
RodimusConvoy13 wrote:
Relic0037 wrote:
Caelus wrote:A person could probably finegle a better look out of this, but this is what I was able to do without moving Max too much (which would have potentially knocked a bunch of other things on the shelf over). Mostly I'm impressed by the strength of Max and Plex's arms. My Metroplex is holding a golf ball-sized pyrite sphere in one hand.

I feel like this would look really good with Greatshot and Grand Maximus, since their color schemes seem more compatible.

DSCF3824.JPG

DSCF3826.JPG

DSCF3827.JPG


Now all you need in that pic is a word bubble with a good Stallone or Schwarzenegger action movie quote in it :D



"It's time to put you.... on ICE!"

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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Toyline Thread

Postby RodimusConvoy13 » Thu Oct 12, 2017 12:59 pm

Motto: "Well, when I see five weirdos dressed in togas, stabbing a man in the middle of the park in full view of a hundred people, I shoot the bastards! That's MY policy!"
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Sabrblade wrote:
RodimusConvoy13 wrote:
Relic0037 wrote:
Caelus wrote:A person could probably finegle a better look out of this, but this is what I was able to do without moving Max too much (which would have potentially knocked a bunch of other things on the shelf over). Mostly I'm impressed by the strength of Max and Plex's arms. My Metroplex is holding a golf ball-sized pyrite sphere in one hand.

I feel like this would look really good with Greatshot and Grand Maximus, since their color schemes seem more compatible.

DSCF3824.JPG

DSCF3826.JPG

DSCF3827.JPG


Now all you need in that pic is a word bubble with a good Stallone or Schwarzenegger action movie quote in it :D



"It's time to put you.... on ICE!"

oh wait, you asked for a good Schwarzenegger quote. Sorry.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Toyline Thread

Postby Overcracker » Thu Oct 12, 2017 1:02 pm

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RodimusConvoy13 wrote:
Relic0037 wrote:
Caelus wrote:A person could probably finegle a better look out of this, but this is what I was able to do without moving Max too much (which would have potentially knocked a bunch of other things on the shelf over). Mostly I'm impressed by the strength of Max and Plex's arms. My Metroplex is holding a golf ball-sized pyrite sphere in one hand.

I feel like this would look really good with Greatshot and Grand Maximus, since their color schemes seem more compatible.

DSCF3824.JPG

DSCF3826.JPG

DSCF3827.JPG


Now all you need in that pic is a word bubble with a good Stallone or Schwarzenegger action movie quote in it :D



"It's time to put you.... on ICE!"

oh wait, you asked for a good Schwarzenegger quote. Sorry.



I like: "Stay Cool *Behrd* boy" for that pose a bit more.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Toyline Thread

Postby xMXUx » Thu Oct 12, 2017 1:11 pm

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With the release of TR Grotusque, what are the chances of a :TAKARATOMY: release? And what other characters were rumored to be released in thos canceled boxsets that could see a LG release?
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Toyline Thread

Postby TF-fan kev777 » Thu Oct 12, 2017 1:21 pm

Caelus wrote:A person could probably finegle a better look out of this, but this is what I was able to do without moving Max too much (which would have potentially knocked a bunch of other things on the shelf over). Mostly I'm impressed by the strength of Max and Plex's arms. My Metroplex is holding a golf ball-sized pyrite sphere in one hand.

I feel like this would look really good with Greatshot and Grand Maximus, since their color schemes seem more compatible.

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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Toyline Thread

Postby Powered Convoy » Thu Oct 12, 2017 1:55 pm

william-james88 wrote:But as Seibertron pointed out, these are new toys, so like him I am very optimistic that 2000 Japanese fans who will place orders. Also, I am sure several fans outside japan will also place orders by using a forwarding service where TTMall will ship to them and they will the ship to you (like Big in Japan). Anyone reading can do that as well ;)^ You can ask Powered Convoy for tips on that, he does it all the time.


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I'm planning on ordering both of these from TakaraTomy Mall.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Toyline Thread

Postby Dr. Caelus » Thu Oct 12, 2017 2:00 pm

TF-fan kev777 wrote:What are the extra guns on Quickswitch? The ones that attach to his standard ones.


Constructbot guns, I think from Optimus Prime. I bought tons of Constructbot stuff just to customize my normal figures - make jet packs, guns, power armor, etc. For a while I had a bunch on Quickswitch just to make him look different from Sixshot.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Toyline Thread

Postby TF-fan kev777 » Thu Oct 12, 2017 2:17 pm

Caelus wrote:
TF-fan kev777 wrote:What are the extra guns on Quickswitch? The ones that attach to his standard ones.


Constructbot guns, I think from Optimus Prime. I bought tons of Constructbot stuff just to customize my normal figures - make jet packs, guns, power armor, etc. For a while I had a bunch on Quickswitch just to make him look different from Sixshot.


Damn, that is brilliant. ;)^
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Toyline Thread

Postby Dr. Caelus » Thu Oct 12, 2017 3:06 pm

TF-fan kev777 wrote:
Caelus wrote:
TF-fan kev777 wrote:What are the extra guns on Quickswitch? The ones that attach to his standard ones.


Constructbot guns, I think from Optimus Prime. I bought tons of Constructbot stuff just to customize my normal figures - make jet packs, guns, power armor, etc. For a while I had a bunch on Quickswitch just to make him look different from Sixshot.


Damn, that is brilliant. ;)^


Thank you. There's a lot of things you can do with that stuff. I used Constructbot parts to augment Combiner Wars Menasor until I had the Perfect Effect upgrade for him, and at one point I had some cool Apex Armor made for TR Sentinel Prime, but I can't find any pictures (though I suppose this isn't the place for that anyway).
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Toyline Thread

Postby shadowstitch » Thu Oct 12, 2017 4:18 pm

Just got my Hot Rod and Kup today. I don't know why I expected any better from Hastak, but Hot Rod has Space Herpes and the same hairline windshield crack that is present on every single Titans Return Hot Rod I've ever seen. If you think yours doesn't have it, you're not looking closely enough.

Kup has a paint chip on his cheek and his head crest, and one eye only half painted, which is not something that should happen on figures this expensive.

That's the last straw for me: no more importing. At least with local domestic release figures I can cherry pick paint jobs and return ones that are defective. One step at a time I'll beat this stockholm syndrome I've developed towards a company that really doesn't live up to my expectations anymore.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Toyline Thread

Postby primalxconvoy » Thu Oct 12, 2017 4:39 pm

Relic0037 wrote:
Caelus wrote:A person could probably finegle a better look out of this, but this is what I was able to do without moving Max too much (which would have potentially knocked a bunch of other things on the shelf over). Mostly I'm impressed by the strength of Max and Plex's arms. My Metroplex is holding a golf ball-sized pyrite sphere in one hand.

I feel like this would look really good with Greatshot and Grand Maximus, since their color schemes seem more compatible.

DSCF3824.JPG

DSCF3826.JPG

DSCF3827.JPG


Now all you need in that pic is a word bubble with a good Stallone or Schwarzenegger action movie quote in it :D



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